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This is from a friend of mine working for Apple:

"The camera in the tablet will recognize where the primary users eyes are and project a stereo image space thus enabling three dimensional applications. The operating system will be three dimensional and applications will look like magic because they will what Cameron terms "z space" or depth."

In case you haven't guessed it will be the Apple tablet scheduled to be release in April.

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How can you buy a tablet without flash player? Or did I miss the headline somewhere?

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Also, you can plug it into your brain using the quantum information super-highway cable.

Right?

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It also washes dishes, cleans floors and lowers your car insurance bill by 15%.

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I'd buy THAT for a dollar!!

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and it belnds too

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Does anybody know if they are stackable? Like, if I were to buy 15 of them, I wouldn't have to pay any car insurance ever again?

And I'd have super clean floors?

Although I guess I'd have to eat out because eating indoors would be a hazard...


I presume apple's new tablet device is essentially a Roomba that can drive, right?

Suddenly this all makes sense.

edit: iChauffa ?

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Jonathan, your math fails so badly I can't stand it. :p

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Hopefully it has a calculator too :D

Addendum: 15x15% = 225%, I would MAKE money? I wonder at what point you'd break even on your initial purchase..

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Sounds like a great application for the N900's front-facing camera. Any takers? :-)

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I like how James Cameron is referenced to bring validity to such an amazing feature. If I grow a ponytail and put it in the usb port, will I be able to "feel" my way around the ui? OrangeGump.

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Be as sceptical as you want. The Apple innovation train has its steam at full throttle.

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In 3D graphics, the term "stereo image" specifically refers to an image that is different for each eye. AFAIK this would require either glasses (red/blue, polarized) or some kind of lenticular filter on top of the screen (like those old "3D postcards").

Will the tablet really support a "stereo image" in this respect, or will it just be a "3D image" that changes the viewpoint slightly as you move your eyes/head in relation to the tablet?

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2010... year of the user interfaces revolution?

gah, come on; We're still using user interface concepts older than the machines at our local banks and government agencies.

Apple doesn't have anything except a rabid fanbase, community is everything for a brand (company) or device.

Even if it does everything as promised I'd still not find myself buying one, watching my eyes? three dimensional? No thanks, my eyes are bad enough as it is, don't point anything at them and for god's sake don't make my eyes focus any worse than they already do. Remember Nintendo's Virtual Boy? Yeah... that went over real well. I for one won't be stressing my eyes out with some cutting edge 3d technology, or even cutting edge 2d technology.

Compiz seemed like a great idea at first but if you ever showed it to older folks and gauged their reaction to it-- it's just utter nonsense to them, the animations are distracting and annoying. I imagine that is how I'll find newer age technologies as they come out. I want my computer to do work efficiently not endlessly bedazzle me.

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The latter. Still, a HUGE awesomeness to see depth on a screen without using special glasses, don't you think?

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I would recommend you watching Avatar in IMAX 3D. Best technology I've seen in a long time. That may prompt you to reconsider your outdated views wrto 3D technologies.

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Awwww poor little OrangeBox.

Aren't you getting the response you wanted.. ?
Heres a little bedtime taking the bait for you:

Yeah, whatever! Apple's all flash, and fischer-price graphics!!1
I mean it'll probably only have 90% fart apps, and nothing else. :eek:
I'll stick with my N900 where I'M in control of my device, and can do whatever I want with it. I shouldn't have to jailbreak my device, just to get basic functionality!!! !!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad:
[insert stereotypical comments here]

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Eye tracking? I'm out. I have a condition called nystagmus which causes my eyes to oscillate back and forth, blurring my vision. The wikipedia page for pathologic nystagmus suggestions getting drunk can induce it also (no I don't drink and if I did, I doubt I would notice a difference but I would find it funny if an officer ordered a breathalyzer because of it.). Interesting if the device doesn't work when the user is drunk.

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.......and then Batman placed it back in his utility belt....

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I am panicking now!

So does this mean my N900 will stop working in April?

I better start pulling my hair out, start running around and scream like a little girl who just saw a spider!

Thank you orangebox!

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Sure, sounds very interesting. If I understand correctly then the effect is done purely in software by image processing the user-facing camera image, finding the eyes, and estimating the relative location of the camera w.r.t. the user's head, and feeding that info to a 3D app as the 3D rendering viewpoint.

This means it could be done on the N900 (or other phones) as well, as long as they have user-facing cameras. Maybe OpenCV might have some routines that could help with programming this. It's an interesting problem. I think you can assume an average size for a human head, then given the position and spacing between the eyes, you can extrapolate the size and position of the head; given known camera parameters this allows you to compute where the head is in 3D space relative to the camera. Sounds like something where there should be enough research papers (or existing code) to get it going on the N900.

Edit: Using face tracking would allow you to get the image-space position of the head; eye tracking allows you to get the orientation of the head and eyes; an assumed size of the head + known camera parameters allow you to calculate the 3D location/rotation of the head relative to the camera. Again, sounds doable.

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It does work even when you're drunk. The image would be a little blurry (just like when watching Avatar without the glasses) which is what a drunk person expects his vision to be

So in other words, the Apple tablet will be drunk-proof.

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I'm afraid that the technology is more than software. The screen has to support 3D as well. Dunno about the specifics but it could be similar to the new Jaguar Nav systems where the same screen has two different images (the driver sees the map and the passenger sees the dvd movie).

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Skeptical, I will be Mr. Phonics. The fact that you mentioned Cameron then Avatar, just shows you're grand staging some truly weak viewpoint. You do understand that special lenses must be worn to come even close to the 3D nature of that film. A secondary accessory to use a device has never been received well. If it's using the camera the same effect can be seen, watching George Washington's eyes on a dollar bill as you move it around. Umm yeah awesomeness indeed OrangeChode.

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You just fed me. We need a term for people who can't contribute anything to the forums only chasing imaginary trolls. Troll busters maybe? Gotta wake up earlier to make me notice you. I chew heavyweight people's head off on a regular basis.

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I wonder if that's steam or black smoke what you see. :D

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Did you not read my prev post? Here it is again:

NO NEED FOR SPECIAL GLASSES TO SEE THE 3D EFFECT ON THE ISLATE.

In fact Sony jus recently demoed an hdtv that does the same thing.

Grow up.

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iTablet, the first tablet that cannot be used with shades. Really innovative after the first phone that cannot be used with gloves. :)

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Like the N900 can be used with gloves. Don't kid yourself. I live in Canada. We just got a 20cm snow and I wear gloves. I can say that the N900 can't even be turned on with gloves on let alone using it (unless of course using a stylus)

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Grown ups don't wear mittens like you kids do. I am using my N900 with gloves in the winter and it works well.

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i use my N900 with gloves all the time

it must be you

some sort of disability maybe?

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Oh man, did you not see what I wrote about George Washington, but you're a dorky Canuck, so thats what your problem must be all aboot. Take out a 5 dollar bill with the queen of a country that is not your own, and look at her eyes, now move that bill but do not take your eyes off her...Wowz same effect bozo. Go lurk at Tim Horton's or something virg boy.

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Try using it with my gloves I have to wear in -20C:

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Oh yeah, it must feel very aweful that we kicked you out when you tried to take over Canada in the 1800s. It also must give you chuckles that we have 10th of people compared to you guys yet, we have more natural resources. Just please don't nuke us. You can continue draining the big lakes though.

And yes, Tim Horton's beats your Dunkin Donuts big time.

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I am really not seeing how Apple's tablet will kill Nokia's tablets. The two devices are targeted at completely different markets. For Apple, the netbook/e-book frenzy/laptop market, and Nokia - "pocketability" and mobile market. Unless you have grossly oversized pockets Apple's device isn't going to compete with the N900 or future small sized tablets. If Nokia had wanted to create something as large as Apple's "iSlate," then they would have done so years ago. Obviously, that wasn't their goal.

Personally, for quick on the go computing, I would rather pull out a device from my pocket than a larger device from a case hiding inside a backpack of some sort. Usually carrying both a full sized tablet-PC and N810 around, I reach for the N810 to do my quick web searches before every thinking about the hassle of pulling out the tablet-PC from its case. The iSlate seems bound for the couch in my opinion - not too unlike the recent classification of the Windows Smart Display as one of the "worst 50 gadgets of the decade" by Gizmodo.

As for the 3D thing, seven letters: gimmick.

-WIlson Tang

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Wow, that's quite a paw to frighten polar bears. :)

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Aww the lil maple sucker got upset....lolz...go cry somewhere else.

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No worries. I will go across the border on Saturday and do some great shopping. FYI the loonie is almost at parity and the greenback is in freefall. Love being a Canadian.

BTW, can you sign your name or just put an X on the line? Dunno, just asking because that's what the yankee did when they arrested him trying to hunt for penguins in Northern Quebec. Poor soul. He must have missed school when they explained the difference between South Pole and North Pole.

Now it's time for a large iced capp.

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If you've seen Avatar in IMAX wow. Wow x2 Do you know that it's looks so much better in cinema city? If it's best technology then you havent seen much i must say.

Anyway I work in electronics, and whatever you friend told you there is NO WAY they will release tabled by april this year. I know APPLE's BOM by heart. They just DONT buy the electronics needed to build one for their Pre Release department. Or Alpha Team if you wish.
So, bla bla bla wishful thinking, aint gonna happen that soon.
Also, screens that will allow to see different depths are not USABLE in daylight. So good luck.