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Barts 2010-01-09 00:12

Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
so.i live in the uk and i like to treat myself to a magazine called stuff, which is basically a gadget magazine. it had a review of my beloved N900 and gave it 3 stars. each to their own. anyway onto my confusion, i flick through the mag to find a 2 page advertising spread on the N900, and to quote 'from facebook to BBC iplayer,and from video broadcast app qik to city guides and games, the ovi store has an ever growing list of apps to enjoy'. well that's fantastic seeing as the ovi store says coming soon and i cant find a bbc iplayer app anywhere, it also says fifa 10 is available for the N900 in the advert but yet i can't find it anywhere. i'm just so confused.

OrangeBox 2010-01-09 00:16

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barts (Post 460330)
so.i live in the uk and i like to treat myself to a magazine called stuff, which is basically a gadget magazine. it had a review of my beloved N900 and gave it 3 stars. each to their own. anyway onto my confusion, i flick through the mag to find a 2 page advertising spread on the N900, and to quote 'from facebook to BBC iplayer,and from video broadcast app qik to city guides and games, the ovi store has an ever growing list of apps to enjoy'. well that's fantastic seeing as the ovi store says coming soon and i cant find a bbc iplayer app anywhere, it also says fifa 10 is available for the N900 in the advert but yet i can't find it anywhere. i'm just so confused.

Don't be confused. The N900 is not what it's advertised to be.

Barts 2010-01-09 00:41

Re: confused
 
probably not, but i love it anyway, just confused as to why they would advertise all the stuff available which clearly isn't

OrangeBox 2010-01-09 00:44

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barts (Post 460369)
probably not, but i love it anyway, just confused as to why they would advertise all the stuff available which clearly isn't

Nokia is so behind in the smartphone sector that its involvement is not even mentioned in any reputable market research of the smartphones.

Nokia is simply trying to buy time by misrepresenting the facts.

Barts 2010-01-09 01:34

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBox (Post 460376)
Nokia is so behind in the smartphone sector that its involvement is not even mentioned in any reputable market research of the smartphones.

Nokia is simply trying to buy time by misrepresenting the facts.

well i thought you were just pointing out your views, but upon stumbling across some of your other posts it's oobvious to me that you're on these forums to spread the apple gospel and condemn to hell anything that is nokia. mental note to self, take what you say with a pinch oof salt.

OrangeBox 2010-01-09 01:36

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barts (Post 460450)
well i thought you were just pointing out your views, but upon stumbling across some of your other posts it's oobvious to me that you're on these forums to spread the apple gospel and condemn to hell anything that is nokia. mental note to self, take what you say with a pinch oof salt.

Did you also stumble upon my post where I stated that I don't own and will never own an Apple product? Touche...

Barts 2010-01-09 01:47

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeBox (Post 460453)
Did you also stumble upon my post where I stated that I don't own and will never own an Apple product? Touche...

maybe it was a different orangebox that started the islate kills all comers thread and ' the apple inovation train has it's steam at full throttle'. strange praise to a company whose products you dont and never will own

real_per 2010-01-09 01:47

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barts (Post 460330)
so.i live in the uk and i like to treat myself to a magazine called stuff, which is basically a gadget magazine. it had a review of my beloved N900 and gave it 3 stars. each to their own. anyway onto my confusion, i flick through the mag to find a 2 page advertising spread on the N900, and to quote 'from facebook to BBC iplayer,and from video broadcast app qik to city guides and games, the ovi store has an ever growing list of apps to enjoy'. well that's fantastic seeing as the ovi store says coming soon and i cant find a bbc iplayer app anywhere, it also says fifa 10 is available for the N900 in the advert but yet i can't find it anywhere. i'm just so confused.

That sounds quite bad about the ad. Sure it might hold promises about what we can expect from the Maemo store, but it's not very smart to "lie" to your potential customers in your advertising.

Could you scan or take a picture of the advertising ?
I haven't seen it anywhere.

Oh and, I can see why your're confused, but Fifa, City Guides and a BBC iplayer isn't anywhere to be found, so you're not doing anything wrong.

yorg 2010-01-09 01:50

Re: confused
 
it maybe a screwup of the magazine or even better, things may get delivered this month!

OrangeBox 2010-01-09 01:51

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barts (Post 460465)
maybe it was a different orangebox that started the islate kills all comers thread and ' the apple inovation train has it's steam at full throttle'. strange praise to a company whose products you dont and never will own

I am not worthy and dumb enough to own Apple products. I also don't like the company's philosophy and Steve Jobs' uber control freakism.

BUT I admire their innovative spirit and the products they make.

Barts 2010-01-09 01:55

Re: confused
 
can i take a picture of it with my N900 and post it on here with said phone? you'll have to forgive my noobishness, but i'm not highly technical like that

OrangeBox 2010-01-09 01:56

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barts (Post 460478)
can i take a picture of it with my N900 and post it on here with said phone? you'll have to forgive my noobishness, but i'm not highly technical like that

I used a separate camera. You can do it in front of a mirror lacking a secondary camera. Then when you reply scroll down to Manage Attachments and upload it there.

real_per 2010-01-09 02:03

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barts (Post 460478)
can i take a picture of it with my N900 and post it on here with said phone? you'll have to forgive my noobishness, but i'm not highly technical like that

You you can.

Take the picture, and then press the sharing icon.
You will have to have an account with Flick or Ovi Share, but once you've created that it's straight forward.
After that, just paste the link in here.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXAVLSyc_E

Instructions are also on page 70 of the manual.

Barts 2010-01-09 03:01

Re: confused
 
sod it i can't figure it out. i'll do it on my computer when i get home

RevdKathy 2010-01-09 09:45

Re: confused
 
Oh dear. I really am a Pollyanna, aren't I!?

See, when I read what you said my head thinks... well, the Ovi store isn't open yet, but will be soon (next week or week after at a guess). Especially if they're advertising it in a January magazine (or was that an early Feb edition?) So... if they are also advertising iplayer... then maybe that is also Coming Soon!!! :D

I also live in the UK, and have been surprised at the complete silence of advertising until about the last week or so. I finally got some spam email about it last week. I have seen no other advertising. So knowing that Nokia now feel confident enough in the device to start advertising leads me to believe they are also confident in it's roadmap, support and app store which are hovering in the offing.

Damn. My glass is almost full, isn't it!

Barts 2010-01-09 10:33

Re: confused
 
i'm also of the mind that the ovi store will be with us soon, the magazine is the feb edition, and vodafone have also picked the N900 for contract, so nokia would havemto have ovi in place for that, i couldn't see vodafone throwing their weight behind the device without nokia support

rokmystage 2010-01-09 12:44

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by real_per (Post 460490)

Instructions are also on page 70 of the manual.

Interesting, my "manual" had about _ten_ pages... Well, no need for the manual anyway :)

jaark 2010-01-09 14:14

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yorg (Post 460469)
it maybe a screwup of the magazine or even better, things may get delivered this month!

I've always considered Stuff as a 'fluff' magazine in that they barely understand or look at what they are 'reviewing'. It points at shiny stuff and goes 'coo'.
It's as much an accurate technology mag as Top Gear is a programme about cars ;)

Barts 2010-01-09 18:24

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaark (Post 461051)
I've always considered Stuff as a 'fluff' magazine in that they barely understand or look at what they are 'reviewing'. It points at shiny stuff and goes 'coo'.
It's as much an accurate technology mag as Top Gear is a programme about cars ;)

i have to say that i agree with your views, and i'm not going to lie and say i only bought it because it had an N900 review :D, but i did buy this issue for that reason, but the page i'm refering too is actually a nokia advertisement

http://share.ovi.com/media/Barts.76....Barts.76.10003

c0rt3x 2010-01-09 18:50

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barts (Post 461358)
i have to say that i agree with your views, and i'm not going to lie and say i only bought it because it had an N900 review :D, but i did buy this issue for that reason, but the page i'm refering too is actually a nokia advertisement

http://share.ovi.com/media/Barts.76....Barts.76.10003

This file is unavailable. It is possibly set as "private"?

volt 2010-01-09 19:01

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
I am going with...Pollyannas? ...view on this.

It's a crime to advertise untruths. If the ad claims there's a BBC player and FIFA 10 for the N900, then I do believe at the time the ad was created, they expected a BBC player and FIFA 10 to be available at the time of the magazine going to print.

The OVI Store _will_ open eventually. Something's gotta be in there, they need something special in there if they want publicity about the store opening. That's probably their main reason for holding back the store opening too... They await the headliner app to be ready.

RevdKathy 2010-01-09 19:05

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
There's no evidence that iplayer is in the Ovi store. :( Unless flash 10 is in the firmware upgrade.

But I firmly believe it will come.

(Pollyanna's philosophy of life centers on what she calls "The Glad Game", an optimistic attitude she learned from her father. The game consists of finding something to be glad about in every situation. It originated in an incident one Christmas when Pollyanna, who was hoping for a doll in the missionary barrel, found only a pair of crutches inside. Making the game up on the spot, Pollyanna's father taught her to look at the good side of things—in this case, to be glad about the crutches because "we don't need 'em!". - wikipedia)

Rauha 2010-01-09 19:07

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barts (Post 461358)

Link is set as private.

mysticrokks 2010-01-09 19:21

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
Erm i am not surprised at all, i have been ripped at by 'fanboiys' for mentioning nokias advertosing campaigns being far from the truth. thanks for sharing this.

I like stuff anyway, i havent had it for years but i used to get it every month.

i can understand a 3 star review- i am sure the majority of stuff readers would be more about the 3gs or android nexus 1..


but there are many positives from a consumer point of view.

unefical advertising will get more units sold(more interest-more functions,more quality)- and hopefully its only unethical in terms of the fact that these said features perhaps arnt out yet but will be on there way SOON!!!!

Barts 2010-01-09 19:36

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 461426)
Link is set as private.

how do i change it, i'm looking but can't figure it out

Bratag 2010-01-09 19:44

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
I have OB on ignore - but let me guess. Nokia suck - every other smartphone is better. Apple Apple Apple - buttlick buttlick buttlick. Troll Troll Troll.


Am I close?

http://alesrarus.funkydung.com/images/troll.jpg

Rauha 2010-01-09 19:46

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barts (Post 461478)
how do i change it, i'm looking but can't figure it out

In Ovi Share open the album which has the picture and scroll to bottom of page. Click the "Album settings" (see pic below). There are options for public and private.



http://media.share.ovi.com/m1/s/1633...3c2d97cb84.jpg

jaark 2010-01-09 19:50

Re: confused
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barts (Post 461358)
the page i'm refering too is actually a nokia advertisement

Oh, right in that case, things explicitly stated should be accurate as far as possible or they can be slapped by the ASA or possibly OFT. Note that adverts have to be placed and finalised a long time before publication, so if they honestly intended those features to be available at the time of advertising and timescales have slipped for unexpected reasons there's no real case to answer as they weren't being dishonest.

Barts 2010-01-09 19:50

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
http://share.ovi.com/media/Barts.76....Barts.76.10004
http://share.ovi.com/media/Barts.76....Barts.76.10008
right , try that

Rauha 2010-01-09 19:51

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barts (Post 461506)

Working now.

mysticrokks 2010-01-09 19:52

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
"there's no real case to answer as they weren't being dishonest. "

oh dear god- i cant believe this statement.

what is it with you fan boys- you pull the add if its not gonna happen- jeas whats these excuses for.

c0rt3x 2010-01-09 19:53

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
You can see the ad here as well:

http://n900.stuff.tv/

jaark 2010-01-09 19:55

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mysticrokks (Post 461511)
"there's no real case to answer as they weren't being dishonest. "

oh dear god- i cant believe this statement.

what is it with you fan boys- you pull the add if its not gonna happen- jeas whats these excuses for.

Acknowledging that predicting the future and plans do not always play out as you intend is fanboyism now? Sheesh..

Rauha 2010-01-09 19:56

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barts (Post 461506)

If that picture is from Nokia advertisement, then you are correct. It's dishonest advertisement.

mysticrokks 2010-01-09 19:56

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by c0rt3x (Post 461515)


that one is quite honest.

off course it is very perfect world(everyone does that) but it dosent specifically say anything that isnt included


I WAS WRONG.

it makes the statement that ovi store is avalable and that certsin apps are exclusive.
and a few other untruths.

Rauha 2010-01-09 20:02

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
http://n900.stuff.tv/

Doesn't seem to be Nokia site or advertisement

http://media.share.ovi.com/m1/s/1633...b236ec98f3.jpg

mysticrokks 2010-01-09 20:05

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 461523)


er it defo is. who would promote nokia's n900 like this if it isnt from nokia.

its from Haymarket Creative Media, who are surely being paid by nokia to do this

bonerp 2010-01-09 20:10

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
simples. trading standards need to give Nokia a boot up the bum

casper27 2010-01-09 20:11

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
Look on page 3 at the bottom. Nokia are still advertising game emulators as a selling feature. You would have thought they would have learned their lesson. I love the Emulators though so can understand why.

Bratag 2010-01-09 20:39

Re: Confused: Feb "Stuff" magazine has ad for N900 + Ovi Store
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 461538)
Look on page 3 at the bottom. Nokia are still advertising game emulators as a selling feature. You would have thought they would have learned their lesson. I love the Emulators though so can understand why.

There was another thread here recently that stated that Nokia etc have decided there is nothing wrong with the emulators being here/on the n900 since they do nothing wrong. Stealing the ROMS - wrong - running the emulator - perfectly legal


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