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sermad 2010-01-11 22:14

Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Hi all - I wanted to try and reflash my pre-production N900. I've followed the WIKI exactly and the flash fails with the following ->

USB device found found at bus bus-0, device address \\.\libusb0-0001--0x0421-0x0
105.
Found device RX-51, hardware revision 1801
NOLO version 1.4.11
Version of 'sw-release': RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.36-14_PR_MR0
To flash the bootloader, you have to supply the X-Loader image

The cmd line was ->

flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.42-11_
PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R

The N900 IS in flash mode - I even enabled the RD mode.

thanks

hartti 2010-01-12 01:31

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Are you talking about a prototype hardware for N900?
If yes, then one answer could be that the firmware package you are using does not support the prototype you have.

Hartti

GeneralAntilles 2010-01-12 01:31

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
The retail firmware wont flash a pre-production device. You'll need to find a LEGACY FIASCO image.

vvk 2010-02-18 11:48

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
How does one go about flashing a pre production unit? I wouldnt know where to get a legacy fiasco image. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance

noobmonkey 2010-02-18 11:59

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
possibly here? - http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php

vvk 2010-02-18 13:51

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
I tried that I flashed my eMMC successfully . After that i tried flashing my firmware to the current state. It still gives me the same error:

To flash the bootloader, you have to supply the X-loader image.

Any ideas on what needs to be done about this?

Z0l 2010-02-18 15:09

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Perhaps you should try with a newer version, either pr1.1 or pr1.1.1. If all else fails, try cold flashing (flasher --help will give you the answers how to do that)
i think this x-loader thing is like a bios, maybe you should try asking a nokia service center to upgrade it for you so you can enjoy "retail goodness" :)

vvk 2010-02-19 08:31

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
I managed to flash the rootfs after I flashed the eMMC. My phone now started booting again but now I have some kind of version conflict and the flasher gives me the same error when i try to flash the entire firmware.

To flash the bootloader, you have to supply the X-loader image.

I have unpacked the FIASCO image and got multiple X-loader images in the directory. Which one do you think I should flash into the device?

If I have to flash the individual components separately, which are the ones I should flash? Or do I simply flash every single one of them?

Any ideas?

And also, I am not able to get the latest firmware on the OTA updates. It does not even show up in my application manager.

How would cold flashing help? I even tried cold flashing but it asks me to supply the 2nd image when I use the FIASCO image to update the firmware.

I know my questions are all over the place but that is because I am trying to get this pre-production unit to retail status. Going to a Nokia retailer is out of the question because the device hasn't even released here.

Help please..!!

jae-v 2010-02-28 16:23

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Me along with a lot of other people have this problem as well...this is the only thread it seems with info on this issue from my google searching. I've tried the latest 2010 bin file and still getting the X-loader image error. Any developments??..

jae-v 2010-03-02 05:19

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
bump.......

weirdbeard 2010-03-02 05:27

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
first, you lift up your shirt and......thats all i got. lol

jae-v 2010-03-02 05:32

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
lol seriously

tuminoid 2010-03-02 05:34

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noobmonkey (Post 534124)

There is only COMBINED images available and as stated, they're not supporting HW 1801, they support from 2101 and up. :/

jae-v 2010-03-02 05:36

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
So i'm hosed?... :(

jae-v 2010-03-02 05:37

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
I want my damn money back lol but the phone is so nice

tuminoid 2010-03-02 06:22

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jae-v (Post 552016)
I want my damn money back lol but the phone is so nice

You got pre-production phone so I doubt you had to spend money for it? :-) (edit: except if you bought one from someone that had it for free and thought it was production model... :( )

I'm sure there is a way to get hold of LEGACY images, just need to find right email or page to spam.

vvk 2010-03-02 06:34

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Wow.... nothing on how one deals with a pre-production device. What does this mean in terms of the platform being open source? Is there really no solution? Surely if someone on the Nokia team can do something about it then the community should be able to as well right? Is there anyone from Nokia listening in? Any suggestions on what we can do?

jae-v 2010-03-13 03:32

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vvk (Post 552049)
Wow.... nothing on how one deals with a pre-production device. What does this mean in terms of the platform being open source? Is there really no solution? Surely if someone on the Nokia team can do something about it then the community should be able to as well right? Is there anyone from Nokia listening in? Any suggestions on what we can do?

hey what's your status? i've been searching and searching and still nothing...where did you find the fiasco image with the x-loaders? Are you unable to install certain applications? I cant get firefox and the panorama app to install among other problems...i need exchange support and it works with the updated firmware

jae-v 2010-03-18 20:03

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Just confirming, can be done and figured it out...

Tomaszd 2010-03-18 20:16

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Just contact Nokia to get a LEGACY FIASCO image. I have a PR1.1.1 LEGACY image right here on my desktop... If you need an e-mail address, just PM me.

qwerty12 2010-03-18 20:20

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
NSU carried legacy images the last time I looked. (And they worked for flashing my Sept. pre-prod.)

Use a tool like Navifirm to download them from the NSU server.

pradeepprakash 2010-04-09 06:55

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomaszd (Post 572360)
Just contact Nokia to get a LEGACY FIASCO image. I have a PR1.1.1 LEGACY image right here on my desktop... If you need an e-mail address, just PM me.

Hey Tomaszd,
Could you please let me know a download link for the legacy images. My HWID is F4 2001. I am not able to flash the device because the X-loader wont support the HW version!!!! Thanks in advance.

~Pradeep

Andre Klapper 2010-04-09 09:18

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pradeepprakash (Post 602293)
Hey Tomaszd, Could you please let me know a download link for the legacy images.

Please read Tomaszd' comment again.
"contact Nokia to get a LEGACY FIASCO image" is a quite clear answer, isn't it? And no, Tomaszd is not Mr. Nokia...

jae-v 2010-04-09 15:08

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
You do not need a special image to flash a preproduction n900...its the same damn phone lol...send me a private msg and i will give you the instructions for anyone who is needing

vvk 2010-04-09 19:12

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Why dont you just put it up here? Wont that save you a lot of replies? I am sure there are those in the community who would like to know as well.

Andy Lau 2010-04-13 14:55

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
I just flash my pr-production phone sucessfully just now, so pls follow my steps to flash yours:
1. Turn the phone into flash mode, don't ask me how
2. Why flasher can't flash the image in your phone:confused: The answer is the HW Revision, you HW revision is lower than what the image requires, so we need to change the HW Revision first. Using this order: "flasher.exe --set-hw-revision=2101" (Of course you can change the 4-digital number to the latest one), then plug out the usb cable, turn off the phone by removing the battery
3. Turn the phone into flash mode again, and now we'll flash the OS into the phone, using this order: "flasher.exe -f IMAGE Name -F" and the flasher is working on writing the image to the phone, it'll take about 2~3 minutes, and then restart your phone manually (I don't add the "-R" for it'll show a mistake when flashing the cmt-mcusw at the first time)
4. Turn on your phone and enjoy your new life with N900!:cool:

pigling 2010-04-16 10:30

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Lau (Post 608704)
I just flash my pr-production phone sucessfully just now, so pls follow my steps to flash yours:
1. Turn the phone into flash mode, don't ask me how
2. Why flasher can't flash the image in your phone:confused: The answer is the HW Revision, you HW revision is lower than what the image requires, so we need to change the HW Revision first. Using this order: "flasher.exe --set-hw-revision=2101" (Of course you can change the 4-digital number to the latest one), then plug out the usb cable, turn off the phone by removing the battery
3. Turn the phone into flash mode again, and now we'll flash the OS into the phone, using this order: "flasher.exe -f IMAGE Name -F" and the flasher is working on writing the image to the phone, it'll take about 2~3 minutes, and then restart your phone manually (I don't add the "-R" for it'll show a mistake when flashing the cmt-mcusw at the first time)
4. Turn on your phone and enjoy your new life with N900!:cool:

i get the same problem. my device is loan machine from Nokia Forum to test my app. can't find sim card. then i flash the machine with the same error "....need x-loader....". but the hw version number is 2001. can't flash the latest 2010 firmware. then overwrite the hw version to 2101 as above suggestion. everything is ok. thanks a lot, Andy.

ravirobin 2010-05-13 19:40

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
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I am having the same issue. I am a Nokia Representatives and usually get preproduction units. My N900 Kept rebooting and now it would not turn on Anymore. Just Nokia Logo comes on without backlight, but then it restarts again.

I tried to flash it, but it kept giving me error "To flash the bootloader, you have to supply the X-Loader image." I tried latest image, but it would not work. I tried it in Production mode and R&D mode.

The Top line says: "SW version in image: RX-51_2009_SE_3.2010.02-8_PR_MRO"

And the bottom line says: "Version of 'sw-realease' : RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.40-2_PR_MRO"

See the image

Please help, how can I get this thing to turn on?

Ravi.

azstunt 2010-05-13 20:23

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ravirobin (Post 657356)
I am having the same issue. I am a Nokia Representatives and usually get preproduction units. My N900 Kept rebooting and now it would not turn on Anymore. Just Nokia Logo comes on without backlight, but then it restarts again.

I tried to flash it, but it kept giving me error "To flash the bootloader, you have to supply the X-Loader image." I tried latest image, but it would not work. I tried it in Production mode and R&D mode.

The Top line says: "SW version in image: RX-51_2009_SE_3.2010.02-8_PR_MRO"

And the bottom line says: "Version of 'sw-realease' : RX-51_2009SE_1.2009.40-2_PR_MRO"

See the image

Please help, how can I get this thing to turn on?

Ravi.

See http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=26 up here. You have to change the HW Revision to 2101.

ravirobin 2010-05-13 20:31

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
So I posted my earlier post without realizing that there were three pages. Andy Lau's Mehod worked. Thanks Dude.

The only change I would say is when you are executing the third stage, it's "flasher.exe -F IMAGE Name -f" NOT "flasher.exe -f IMAGE Name -F"

Enjoy

AR2005 2010-10-08 22:35

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jae-v (Post 602972)
You do not need a special image to flash a preproduction n900...its the same damn phone lol...send me a private msg and i will give you the instructions for anyone who is needing

Hi Jae-v... plz fill me in on the secret been trying for ages to flash my preproduction n900... will be highly appreciated... thanks in advance.
..

jmfairlie 2010-11-24 09:13

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
For those who have the problem:

Quote:

To flash the bootloader, you have to supply the X-Loader image
Some early protos have smaller MMC's (e.g. 16G) so forcing the hw revision in this case won't work well, since newer hw revisions are 32G, and flashing a 16G device as if it were 32G will mess up the partitions

A better approach is to skip the bootloader when flashing the fiasco image:

Quote:

flasher-3.5 --flash-only=kernel,rootfs -F <fiasco> -f

punkox 2011-01-13 04:33

Re: Flashing a preproduction N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pigling (Post 613249)
i get the same problem. my device is loan machine from Nokia Forum to test my app. can't find sim card. then i flash the machine with the same error "....need x-loader....". but the hw version number is 2001. can't flash the latest 2010 firmware. then overwrite the hw version to 2101 as above suggestion. everything is ok. thanks a lot, Andy.

thankkkksss!!!! :D its really works. i spend at leats 24 to find this thread.. i almost cry... :cool: you rockks.


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