Non Optified Dev Apps
 

Howabout having a list of Non Optified Dev Apps? - I can add them here as we identify them.
Ive only got 10Mb free so need to clean up rather a lot to get 45Mb free for PR1.1 Im sure lots of people are in the same situation so this thread might help..

Non Optified Apps*:

mc (5M)
keepassx (2.5M)
openssh-client (1M)
MyTouchGames (version unknown)
LBreakout2 (version unknown)


* This only a guide to which apps people should uninstall and not in any way an endorsement of other apps on -devel that are safe to install.

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

-devel is, by its nature, a place where new versions of apps can and do pop up with no warning. Because anything is subject to change, this list could be incorrect unless specific versions are noted.

Please put a clear notice at the top that this only a guide to which apps people should uninstall, not in any way an endorsement of other apps on -devel that are safe to install.

Thank you.

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

Good point, will do. (If/when the list gets going!)

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

Here's my list so far:

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

Can't we just move the /var/cache/apt/ temporarily for the upgrade?
Or is it going to _consume_ 45MB more?

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

MyTouchGames
LBreakout2 (I can't figure out how to uninstall it...it won't let me)

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

The /var/cache/apt/ is on the mmc by default, only when connected to pc the rootfs is used. But it is possible to use a /usr-folder on another partition which is a solution for the rootfs-optifying-problem...

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

It might well consume it. Any files it replaces will only get deleted when they're no longer being accessed (on reboot for most of the core apps), so this could well hit 45M.

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

App manager uses /home/user/MyDocs/.apt-var-cache or something as a cache folder.

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

Strange, on a desktop you can upgrade and it will unlink the files live as a file doesn't really get deleted until all open() on it are closed even though it's not listing on the FS anymore... Are you sure? :-)

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

I'm pretty sure - the application still has the file handle open, so the space doesn't actually get freed until it's closed. You can unlink the file, but the space on disk is still reserved until the file handles are closed. This'll probably differ depending on how files/applications are opened though.

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

uhm yes indeed, I was thinking simple deletion not space recovery... oops! :-)

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

I don't know if this is a noob question, but why isn't every app that's not core firmware optified? Unless they plan on changing the install process, adding firmware should not require the pre-uninstall of apps and etc.

Having said that, I know you can't just simply move directories across partitions, but why can't they use tar ("tar cf - . | cd /temp/holding/location ; tar xvfBp - " I'm a solaris guy so my flags are may be off) to essentially move /opt and /usr/bin into another folder temporatily so that we don't have to uninstall non-optified apps?



George

-- Still saving pennies toward my N900. :-D

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

I don't know the answer, but the reason for putting as much of the system as possible on the rootfs is that it is a faster flash memory than the big 32 GB secondary.

Re: Non Optified Dev Apps
 

I can appreciate the speed difference, and I can understand not having enough space to run normally but not enough space to do install doesn't make for a good user experience since you have a huge secondary storage area.