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Bec 2010-01-15 12:58

[N900] How much data traffic do you average per month? What is a typical amount of data use?
 
Please note this only refers to your carrier, not to the extra wifi traffic!


How much traffic do you have with N900?
I'm considering to upgrade from 200 to "let the poll determine a relevant value" :)

rapante 2010-01-15 13:05

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
last month (just ended for me, my plan resets on the 15th every month)

I had 542mb down and about 18mb upstream, but considering it's the first (complete) month I am using the n900 I guess my usage will shorten down to 300-400mb a month, maybe even less

Matjaz 2010-01-15 13:20

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
This is also my first month with the N900. I have installed every possible application and manually reinstalled most of them after upgrading firmware. Like Rapante I also think my traffic usage will be lower in the future.:cool:

I have a 50 MB/day for 30 days for 10€ on HSPA. How are your data plans?

no mercy 2010-01-15 13:23

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
i had 294mb last month.
dataplan: 200mb umts, after that only gprs, but no extra € :-D

but last month i get alltime the umts speed

Bec 2010-01-15 13:30

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
200 mb for one month 4€. Considering to add another 500 for 7€ but that would be too much.
I'm tied by a previous contract to the 200 mb option.

I still have 6 days to the "end of the month" and 0 mb.
Once the pre-paid traffic is over, each mb costs, dunno how much.

HoellP 2010-01-15 13:34

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
My dataplan costs 4€ for 1 GB/month, if i use more it's 4€ for each started GB.
Until now i used ~550 MB, but i'm not really sure if this is for january only or dec too...
Will see after the next bill comes.
Ususally i'm always online, i did both updates via umts, installed/reinstalled lots of progs.

Bec 2010-01-24 18:17

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
UP

to gather some more votes:P

Arif 2010-01-24 22:53

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
I don't have my N900 yet, but I use about 2-3GB a month on the N95 8GB currently.

peyo 2010-01-24 23:06

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
hi

approx. 140Mo this month in, 18Mo out.
No extra fee.

Last month around 80Mo in and 1,70 euro extra.
I shouted a bit a my phone operator and now it's fine. ;)
(I'm in France btw)

wurnz 2010-01-25 13:05

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
i didnt count my wlan traffic, but with umts it is nearly 200 MB per month. I pay 10 € for 200 MB traffic at the umts net after that it is slowed down to normal speed

kevloral 2010-01-25 15:43

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
I use about 15GB/month (downstream). Very similar to the usage I had with my previous phone, by the way (a Nokia N95 8GB).

twaelti 2010-01-25 15:56

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevloral (Post 493768)
I use about 15GB/month (downstream). Very similar to the usage I had with my previous phone, by the way (a Nokia N95 8GB).

500 MB/day???? WTH are you doing? Youtube forever? :D

Arif 2010-01-25 17:35

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twaelti (Post 493782)
500 MB/day???? WTH are you doing? Youtube forever? :D

It's not hard :D I'd use the same ammount if I didn't have WiFi all over the place :p

Bec 2010-01-26 17:35

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
Well this only concerns carriers, on wifi, I bet we all have gigs of traffic :p

moparman 2010-01-26 17:46

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
8.6 Euro for 5GB a month

donsaibot 2010-01-26 18:08

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
200 mb UMTS for 10€ any connection after that is GPRS without additional costs.

I use about 150-200mb every month.

Tosa 2010-01-26 18:27

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
i was wondering if someone can estimate for me how much kb/Mb is any webpage, say this one? the reason i ask is im in South Africa and our data prices are ridiculous, and mostly rely on miniopera to reduce the data i use, n900 to be released in the 2nd quarter here. Thanks for the help

Tosa 2010-01-27 08:40

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
i usually dont have any images turned on to reduce data cost, if anyone can please give me an idea as to how much data per webpage.

Alan_Peery 2010-01-27 11:21

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tosa (Post 497001)
i usually dont have any images turned on to reduce data cost, if anyone can please give me an idea as to how much data per webpage.

It varies too much, even excluding images, to really give a sensible answer. A well written website can be very small. One with web pages built in Microsoft Word and thus with very inefficient HTML can literally be 100 times larger.

Explore the command "netstat" on your Windows PC or Linux box to get number of bytes of network traffic. Then visit some of your favorite sites.

kevloral 2010-01-27 14:01

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twaelti (Post 493782)
500 MB/day???? WTH are you doing? Youtube forever? :D

That volume is mainly because of Internet radio. A 256Kbps stream for nearly as long as I am in the office. So that is 8 hours a day (or more), 5 days a week. Do the math.

Vodafone here in Spain has a 3Mbps data plan with no traffic limits at all and I only pay 12€/month for that. I could upgrade to 7.2Mbps and pay 15€/month, but I haven't felt the need for it.

MDS 2010-01-27 18:42

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
I use around 2GB per month downstream, unsure about upstream.

I have unlimited data, however.

shadowjk 2010-01-27 22:04

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
About 1 gig per month here.

My N900's data connection is actually faster than my home connection (I have 5megabit on N900 hsdpa and 1mbit at home), so I often use it to download podcasts and large files. I'd probably use N900 as my primary internet connection if the latency jitter was less.

Bec 2010-01-30 10:00

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
If the download/upload had no limits, I'd consider leaving my cable provider too.

plaban 2010-01-30 10:22

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
Previously I had 2.5GB plan for $10.75.Now I use 2GB plan for $2.11.I use this connection on PC also.

toyg 2010-01-30 11:47

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
About 30mb here, but it will probably grow a bit when/if i have to use gps a lot.

I'm on pay-as-you-go with 3 in the UK, they give me 150mb free for each top-up (which is £5 minimum) + free skype traffic, and it's plenty for me -- i have wifi at home and office, so I rarely need GPRS, and I make very few calls outside Skype these days.

I used to be on a vodafone contract, but I never managed to get value for money -- their "£15 per month" always ended up being more like £50...

toyg 2010-01-30 11:48

Re: Data traffic for N900
 
About 30mb here, but it will probably grow a bit when/if i have to use gps a lot.

I'm on pay-as-you-go with 3 in the UK, they give me 150mb free for each top-up (which is £5 minimum) + free skype traffic, and it's plenty for me -- i have wifi at home and office, so I rarely need cellular data, and I make very few calls outside Skype these days.

I used to be on a vodafone contract, but I never managed to get value for money -- their "£15 per month" always ended up being more like £50...

Wvrent 2010-03-21 17:57

'Typical' data usage
 
After months of sitting on the fence, I'm 'this close' to finally picking up an N900. Sadly my reservations haven't changed much (I don't live in an AWS area, the uncertainly of the software platforms future is fuzzy, missing the xenon flash in my N82, lack of h.264 acceleration) but the fact that the community are providing the apps I actually want to use is pushing me forward.

Now I've never had a data plan on my current N82 because the vast majority of the time I'm in reach of WiFi. But I'm thinking once I have the power of the N900 in my hands it would be odd not to take advantage. Weather information, facebook status updates, rss feeds and email/calendar sync nicely sitting there in widgets is attractive. What I don't know is how much data that would actually use. And once you popped into that all powerful web browser is it going to suck even more data because of the support for flash?

Maybe part of my concern is how transition between access points work. Will it prioritize to WiFi and automatically switch to 2G when I'm out of the hotspot? Can applications that are known to be bandwidth heavy be set to work with only access points?

Any insight would be appreciated.

ToJa92 2010-03-21 18:02

Re: 'Typical' data usage
 
On my old Nokia E71 I almost always used Wifi, when I got my N900 I picked up a nearly unlimited(20GB/month, then 3G speeds) 3.5G data plan, so I just use that data connection all the time on my N900. Very easy. And then you will never be disconnected from IM's and whatnot.

Duffer 2010-03-21 18:12

Re: 'Typical' data usage
 
I'm usually able stick within my 500MB a month limit on O2, I browse & d/l a fews apps, use nokia maps, weather widget, facebook widget & AP news widget on this account However I don't stream spotify on this I use wifi.

But it really depends on your usage patterns.

floffe 2010-03-21 18:44

Re: 'Typical' data usage
 
I've used 6MB since I got mine a couple of weeks ago, but then I've been very restrictive with non-Wifi internet usage for battery reasons as well as for cost.

Wvrent 2010-03-25 15:29

Re: 'Typical' data usage
 
How are the data logging tools?

Anything out there that can keep a counter based on the type of connection?

rambo 2010-03-25 15:38

Re: 'Typical' data usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wvrent (Post 581996)
How are the data logging tools?

Anything out there that can keep a counter based on the type of connection?

There is a counter that keeps track of how much cellular data you have used (and some widgets to show/reset said counter)

soeiro 2010-03-25 16:17

Re: 'Typical' data usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wvrent (Post 576073)
Maybe part of my concern is how transition between access points work. Will it prioritize to WiFi and automatically switch to 2G when I'm out of the hotspot? Can applications that are known to be bandwidth heavy be set to work with only access points?

Any insight would be appreciated.

There are some tweaking that you can do: tell email client to download only when connected to wifi and so on. In my opinion it could be better (there are suggestions in brainstorms) but it is already workable, without surprises (if you set it up so that it always asks for a connection).

lronPaw 2010-03-31 02:48

Re: 'Typical' data usage
 
Could someone please advise or list where these counters are able to be accessed on the system directly?

I'm in the process of disputing the data charges as stated on my mobile bill and would like to be able to list and export the counters to correlate them with those in the statement.

Any assistance with this is appreciated.

Cheers,

Andrew

dsawhney 2010-03-31 02:57

Re: 'Typical' data usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lronPaw (Post 589119)
Could someone please advise or list where these counters are able to be accessed on the system directly?

I'm in the process of disputing the data charges as stated on my mobile bill and would like to be able to list and export the counters to correlate them with those in the statement.

Any assistance with this is appreciated.

Cheers,

Andrew

I don't think there is a detailed log of data activity on the device. There is however a cumulative counter of cellular data sent/received in Settings ->Phone -> Data Counter

don.ebright 2010-03-31 03:06

Re: 'Typical' data usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lronPaw (Post 589119)
Could someone please advise or list where these counters are able to be accessed on the system directly?

If you will need to do this frequently, there is a widget named Personal Dataplan Monitor (available in App Manager).

lronPaw 2010-03-31 03:50

Re: 'Typical' data usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by don.ebright (Post 589127)
If you will need to do this frequently, there is a widget named Personal Dataplan Monitor (available in App Manager).

Yep, and this is what I'm using currently to guage my data use over 3G. Its a great app but there is significant difference between what the dataplan monitor is reporting (approx 250mb combined up/down) vs what my carrier bill is stating (approximately 700mb - assuming this is combined up/down).. hence my motivation to get a more detailed breakdown.

don.ebright 2010-04-01 12:40

Re: 'Typical' data usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lronPaw (Post 589146)
...there is significant difference between what the dataplan monitor is reporting (approx 250mb combined up/down) vs what my carrier bill is stating (approximately 700mb - assuming this is combined up/down)

The data plan counter doesn't measure some types of traffic (non-IP packets for example) and I suspect that the widget just reports the same number in a more convenient way. What the carrier chooses to count may be somewhat different, but it doesn't sound like a plausible justification for the huge discrepancy that you see.

I am currently using a prepaid SIM and only connect to Wifi. The data plan counters always show zero bytes as you would expect but running ifconfig in an xterm shows a nonzero byte count for the phonet0 interface even though it hasn't ever been given an IP address.

I haven't selected a carrier data connection or sent or received any text messages since rebooting yesterday, but the phonet0 interface shows:

RX bytes:90416 (88.2 KiB) TX bytes:3616 (3.5 Kib)

In the last few minutes, 16 new packets totaling 192 bytes have arrived.

All that I can suggest is watching the raw byte counts on the interface and see how that aligns with the values reported by the data plan monitor. It restarts from zero after every reboot so note the total before rebooting.

eiffel 2010-04-01 13:35

Re: 'Typical' data usage
 
Some carriers have an accounting policy such as "minimum 100kB per session". If you just use a few kB at a time, this can result in a big discrepancy.

youxing 2010-04-01 13:52

Re: 'Typical' data usage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eiffel (Post 591363)
Some carriers have an accounting policy such as "minimum 100kB per session". If you just use a few kB at a time, this can result in a big discrepancy.

My carrier has a 10kB per session minimum.

In Germany, other carriers like Tchibo (which uses the o2 network), have a minimum of 400kB per session! (!!!!!)

The typical data usage I've observed is appromimately 1.2 GB per month, up- and downstream combined.
I rarely use WiFi, I listen to online radio, use the browser a lot, update my apps using 3G ;)


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