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F2thaK 2010-01-20 08:51

Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies



this help file assumes you know the risks and how to at least download and install apps from the extra repos..



1. install the following apps/software


n900 end: (all these apps are in extras repos)

mad developer - this will request password when installing (WRITE DOWN / TAKE NOTE OF PASSWORD !!)

rootsh


for pc end:

winscp (http://winscp.net/)


2. open winscp and put the WLAN ip address shown in mad developer in the 'host name'

3. user name "root", password "(password created during ssh install)"

4. save > login

5. you should now have access!!

jeweladdict 2010-01-20 18:37

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
can't find the mad developer.... what is it called inside of the app manager?

screenshots would be nice too

hwong_pz 2010-01-20 20:17

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeweladdict (Post 484801)
can't find the mad developer.... what is it called inside of the app manager?

screenshots would be nice too

it's called "mad-developer" in app manager, but it's in extras-devel repository tho

F2thaK 2010-01-21 03:16

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
3 Attachment(s)
mad-developer


in extras-devel repo

waleed786 2010-01-31 18:34

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
mine didnt ask for a password when installing. It has a developer password icon at the bottom, I type that password in and it says "access denied" on my pc. Help?

waleed786 2010-02-01 03:13

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waleed786 (Post 504072)
mine didnt ask for a password when installing. It has a developer password icon at the bottom, I type that password in and it says "access denied" on my pc. Help?

FIXED: User ID is NOT root, its actually "developer" I guess they changed in the update

F2thaK 2010-02-01 03:42

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
User: root worked for me, must have been b4 update......
when mad developer was installing SSH server/client it asks for password then

Forphucsake 2010-02-01 03:48

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Everything was working fine up until about 2 days ago, now for some reason I can't get access. Just get an Access Denied message.

oh and I tried using developer as in prevous post, still no luck.

waleed786 2010-02-01 04:05

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
try updating the mad developer from the app manager then trying with "developer"

zwer 2010-02-01 04:25

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Why not just installing OpenSSH server, no need for MAD Developer overlay (unless you use MADDE). OpenSSH server also doesn't require extras-devel and extras-testing repos, so beginners are less likely to f-up their shiny precioussss..

Step 1 (assuming that rootsh is already installed): Install SSH Server from extras (http://maemo.org/downloads/product/M...penssh-server/)

Step 2: If it doesn't ask you to set a password during the installation (it doesn't ask when you install SSH Server & Client package, IIRC), open xterm and type:
Code:

sudo gainroot
When transfered to root shell, type: passwd

Set your password to something secure, the root account is `the GOD user`!

3) To find out your IP you can either type in xterm:
Code:

/sbin/ifconfig wlan0 | grep inet | awk '{ print $2 }'
Or far easier, install Personal IP Address widget from extras ( http://maemo.org/downloads/product/M...al-ip-address/ ) and have it all the time on one of the desktops.

After that, all you need is WinSCP, FileZilla Client, SSH Secure Shell package or any other that allows SFTP connection to your device, for host enter your IP, for user: root. When asked for password enter the one you've set during the installation and/or via the xterm.

Additionally, you can set a password for your user thus avoiding direct root access to the system - procedure is the same as for root, but you'd be setting password to your user so the command should be: passwd user

After that you can log-in using user `user` instead of `root`, from where you can gain root if you need to tinker with system files.

And additional warning: never ever save root password on your machine. Auto-login is extremely convenient way to invite someone to wreck your device. It shouldn't be that hard to type a root password you've previously set on a full-sized keyboard.

kurtfhouse 2010-02-05 14:20

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zwer (Post 504583)
Why not just installing OpenSSH server, no need for MAD Developer overlay (unless you use MADDE). OpenSSH server also doesn't require extras-devel and extras-testing repos, so beginners are less likely to f-up their shiny precioussss..

Step 1 (assuming that rootsh is already installed): Install SSH Server from extras (http://maemo.org/downloads/product/M...penssh-server/)

Step 2: If it doesn't ask you to set a password during the installation (it doesn't ask when you install SSH Server & Client package, IIRC), open xterm and type:
Code:

sudo gainroot
When transfered to root shell, type: passwd

Set your password to something secure, the root account is `the GOD user`!

3) To find out your IP you can either type in xterm:
Code:

/sbin/ifconfig wlan0 | grep inet | awk '{ print $2 }'
Or far easier, install Personal IP Address widget from extras ( http://maemo.org/downloads/product/M...al-ip-address/ ) and have it all the time on one of the desktops.

After that, all you need is WinSCP, FileZilla Client, SSH Secure Shell package or any other that allows SFTP connection to your device, for host enter your IP, for user: root. When asked for password enter the one you've set during the installation and/or via the xterm.

Additionally, you can set a password for your user thus avoiding direct root access to the system - procedure is the same as for root, but you'd be setting password to your user so the command should be: passwd user

After that you can log-in using user `user` instead of `root`, from where you can gain root if you need to tinker with system files.

And additional warning: never ever save root password on your machine. Auto-login is extremely convenient way to invite someone to wreck your device. It shouldn't be that hard to type a root password you've previously set on a full-sized keyboard.

Thanks for the advice

I have tried this method (I am running PCLinuxOS though and as such am using the linux version of filezilla)

I just can't get filezilla to connect, I get the following errors:

Status: Connecting to 192.168.2.4:21...
Status: Connection attempt failed with "EHOSTUNREACH - No route to host".
Error: Could not connect to server
Status: Waiting to retry...
Status: Connecting to 192.168.2.4:21...
Status: Connection attempt failed with "ECONNREFUSED - Connection refused by server".
Error: Could not connect to server

Does anyone have any suggestions? This is new to me. I have PS3mediaserver running on my machine which I use to stream video etc.. to watch on my TV but thats about as complex as I get!

Many thanks

Kurt

jaxxstorm 2010-02-05 14:28

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
I'm slightly confused as to why you're siggesting "noob" install apps from extras-devel when they can simply install the openssh server and get the same functionality? At least OpenSSH has had some testing done to it and isn't in devel..

zwer 2010-02-05 14:39

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kurtfhouse (Post 511901)
Does anyone have any suggestions? This is new to me. I have PS3mediaserver running on my machine which I use to stream video etc.. to watch on my TV but thats about as complex as I get!

Are you sure that you've selected for 'Servertype' - SFTP - SSH File Transfer Protocol in the Site Manager of FileZilla client?

SSH/SFTP connects to port 22, FTP connects to port 21.

kurtfhouse 2010-02-05 14:46

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zwer (Post 511934)
Are you sure that you've selected for 'Servertype' - SFTP - SSH File Transfer Protocol in the Site Manager of FileZilla client?

SSH/SFTP connects to port 22, FTP connects to port 21.

Nope, didn't do that:o

I will have another play:D

Thanks for the help

kurtfhouse 2010-02-05 14:52

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zwer (Post 511934)
Are you sure that you've selected for 'Servertype' - SFTP - SSH File Transfer Protocol in the Site Manager of FileZilla client?

SSH/SFTP connects to port 22, FTP connects to port 21.

Zwer

Worked perfectly, thank you again, its appreciated :)

Kurt

sharqawi 2010-02-19 14:31

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
in FileZilla Client ....
Command: open "root@192.168.0.4" 21
Error: Connection timed out
Error: Could not connect to server
Status: Waiting to retry...
Status: Connecting to 192.168.0.4:21..

how can i solve this problem

zwer 2010-02-19 14:34

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Read a post above yours, kurtfhouse had the exact same problem. You need to choose `SFTP - SSH File Transfer Protocol` as a connection type in FileZilla for your connection.

KNEjk 2010-03-07 16:03

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
I don't get this, I'm very noobish. Haven't spent much time with Linux.
I've installed OpenSSH Server and written in the x-terminal.

My problem is that I don't know how to move wiiremote to usr/bin/

"After that, all you need is WinSCP, FileZilla Client, SSH Secure Shell package or any other that allows SFTP connection to your device, for host enter your IP, for user: root. When asked for password enter the one you've set during the installation and/or via the xterm."
- This I don not get at all...
Am I to install these onto my computer or onto the N900? And then what?

Please help! :D

KNEjk 2010-03-07 18:16

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
I've coyped the wiicontrol into usr/bin and I have the icon, but it doesn't start when I press it, what did I do wrong?

knownothing 2010-06-05 22:34

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
I cant connect the phone to Pc through my home wifi
I did the same : install all Openssh client and server.
Creat password by using X-terminal
Open WinSCP and fill out:
host: my IP internet add
Username: root
PAssword: The pass i created for openssh in X-terminal
port: 22 for SFTP
i got access denied when login and continued to get denied when it prompted me to enter password/

Have no idea

homikaushal 2010-06-11 02:56

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
is there any way to change it other way around ! like connecting N900 to pc and accessing its media???

les_garten 2010-06-11 03:03

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homikaushal (Post 709789)
is there any way to change it other way around ! like connecting N900 to pc and accessing its media???

Read Top Link in my Sig at bottom

homikaushal 2010-06-11 03:11

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
ya i know abt this ! i was just reading it :)! but what i meant was accessing media on PC (shared folder) using N900.

let say using an ftp client on n900 to connect to pc

les_garten 2010-06-11 03:18

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homikaushal (Post 709795)
ya i know abt this ! i was just reading it :)! but what i meant was accessing media on PC (shared folder) using N900.

let say using an ftp client on n900 to connect to pc

I gotcha.

Familiar with SAMBA?

You can use Wizard Mounter to mount shares off your PC to your N900. Not sure what Repo it is in.

Creamy Goodness 2010-06-11 03:22

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homikaushal (Post 709795)
ya i know abt this ! i was just reading it :)! but what i meant was accessing media on PC (shared folder) using N900.

let say using an ftp client on n900 to connect to pc


try searching for "knots 2" if you want to stream. there are also ftp clients for the n900. the n900 file manager and media player also see my desktop computer, so if you figure out what it's doing there i'm sure you can share it that way too.

homikaushal 2010-06-11 03:27

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
nice thanks!

danielo5 2010-07-14 20:06

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
any one know how to browse through system folders through your pc but with linux slackware as your system??

Jamil 2011-01-07 00:31

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Hi,

I'm managing to get to my N900 using OpenSSH in Filezilla on the Windows, no problem. But is there any way to 'lock down' the IP address of the N900 on my network, because every few days it changes and I have to update the details in my saved Site in Filezilla.

Having MyIP on the N900 desktop speeds up the process but it's kind of a pain ...

Cheers.

zwer 2011-01-07 00:34

Re: Remote WIFI Access To N900 Root/ System Files using Windows for Dummies
 
Go to Settings / Internet connections on your N900, click on Connections, select your connection and click Edit. Then you'll be able to set a static address for your N900, provided that your WiFi router allows static addresses. Alternatively, you can force IP address on your N900 by tweaking your router settings - if it allows to bind IP by MAC address.

Cheers


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