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grumps312 2010-01-20 11:19

N900 Alarms Goes On When Phone is Off?
 
Did you guys know that the N900 Alarms Goes On When Phone is turned Off? I didn't know that until now, the alarm went on and the phone was turned off. It asked me if i would like to turn the device on or not. lol. Interesting.

adamFsmith 2010-01-20 11:24

Re: N900 Alarms Goes On When Phone is Off?
 
Yeah, I use it all the time.

If i'm in bed browsing, and I doubt the battery will last until the morning, and the charger is on the other side of the room, I just turn it off to save power, and the alarm still works. Genius!

I think S60 devices do it too, not sure though.

Shaichico 2010-01-20 11:26

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This is native to most nokia phones and has been for quite some time.

grumps312 2010-01-20 11:27

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lol, that's pretty cool. I wonder how does the phone know when to turn on the alarm if its off though? I thought once the phone is off it is like fully off, so how does the phone turn on the alarm if its not on? o.O

FilipSK 2010-01-20 11:29

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SE phones do it too, it is quite common behaviour

ndi 2010-01-20 12:54

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It's not off, that's why removing battery does something different. And it charges. etc.

And this isn't the coolest, the actual WOW for me was a few years ago (all nice Nokias have it) when my phone auto-offed itself for low battery at 18:00 and at 8 AM it rang. The damned thing rang, it kept some juice in its pockets to wake me up.

Every now it just surprises you.

Arif 2010-01-20 13:20

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My 6230 did that too :)

jts123 2010-01-20 13:20

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A godsend feature in my opinion.

Enables you to turn the phone off whilst asleep, avoiding any message notifications or unwanted 3.am calls!! =)

One of the reasons I have bought Nokia's for last 10 years.

GameboyRMH 2010-01-20 13:26

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Cool feature. I wonder if it uses something similar to the scheduled power-on many PC BIOSes have? It's possible that it sets itself to wake up on the next alarm event whenever powering down.

phortize 2010-01-20 14:18

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could it be possible to use this beahviour to build an app to turn the device on with an sms? it would be a cool feature! it could be used together with other features such as invisible mode and google latitude and maybe front camera as an anti-theft app. yes i like dreaming.

HtheB 2010-01-20 14:22

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even very old phones like 3210 and 3310 already had this....

Is theN900 your first phone? :P hehehe lol j/k

suihkulokki 2010-01-20 14:27

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It is a feature of realtime clock (RTC) included on the phones (and PC's). RTC is always on to keep the clock on correct time even when your phone/pc is off. You can also program your RTC to do things at certains times - such as turning on your phone/PC.

If you want to do this on pc, search for "ACPI wakealarm" to see how it can be done.

vl_oka 2010-01-20 14:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by phortize (Post 484265)
could it be possible to use this beahviour to build an app to turn the device on with an sms?

Not possible. While off the cellular modem is off, too. Only the basic core system (clock, charging support, ...) is alive in the power off state.

GameboyRMH 2010-01-20 15:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by phortize (Post 484265)
could it be possible to use this beahviour to build an app to turn the device on with an sms? it would be a cool feature! it could be used together with other features such as invisible mode and google latitude and maybe front camera as an anti-theft app. yes i like dreaming.

Well if the GSM module is powered down there's no chance of that working...

N900FTW 2010-01-20 15:21

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If you read the manual then you'll know it.

ndi 2010-01-20 18:04

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Not only it's not possible, I REALLY don't want anyone remotely activating stuff in my phone. What is this, the US? (ha!)

mysticrokks 2010-01-20 18:05

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THATS A VERY usefull thing :) and i dint know

That One Guy 2010-01-20 18:08

Re: N900 Alarms Goes On When Phone is Off?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by adamFsmith (Post 483975)

I think S60 devices do it too, not sure though.


They do.

At least my E90 and Omnia HD did.

grumps312 2010-01-20 18:31

Re: N900 Alarms Goes On When Phone is Off?
 
lol thats cool to know, this is the first time i use a phone as a main alarm clock lol. i wish the n900 alarm rings longer though.

ndi 2010-01-20 19:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by grumps312 (Post 484788)
lol thats cool to know, this is the first time i use a phone as a main alarm clock lol. i wish the n900 alarm rings longer though.

You can have War and Peace audiobook as a ringtone if you wish.

Do you mean it auto-shuts off after a while? That's good, you might not be there and there's little you can do while other people wish you had something terminal.

ZootHornRollo 2010-01-20 19:57

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it's a very useful feature that winmo never really quite mastered.

There were a couple of apps that claimed to do it but it was very hit and miss in my experience. Could never us a WinMo device as a reliable alarm clock.

GameboyRMH 2010-01-20 20:12

Re: N900 Alarms Goes On When Phone is Off?
 
Palms can do it, but they never really turn off, they only go into a standby mode - unless you pull the battery, which wasn't possible on all devices.

xomm 2010-01-20 20:52

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I'm thinking of doing this, but any word on battery drainage on startup?

(i know it's not as much as the N800, which took 15% of battery capacity to boot up...)

EDIT: never mind, did it myself with lshal | grep battery: it actually went up to 48% from 46% for me. i'm assuming that's not actually the case so it's pretty much negligible.

grumps312 2010-01-21 01:18

Re: N900 Alarms Goes On When Phone is Off?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ndi (Post 484958)
You can have War and Peace audiobook as a ringtone if you wish.

Do you mean it auto-shuts off after a while? That's good, you might not be there and there's little you can do while other people wish you had something terminal.

I mean like the duration of the alarm. It rings like twice, first time its not as loud, second time its louder. Like my actual alarm clock will continue to ring until i press snooze or sleep and than it will stop. Can the N900 do something similar?

shamoni8 2010-02-04 12:34

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is that worth noting? shouldn't alarms work all the time?

grumps312 2010-02-09 19:21

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Well some people may not know that, i was one of them.


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