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franny87 2010-01-20 14:26

seems like n900 encouraged iCrap
 
iCrap 4g will have multitasking like the n900 >< are we going to see another sue battle? hehe

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/...t-the-itablet/

sometimes i kind of want to go for an iCrap but i have hope for nokia ;)

ndi 2010-01-20 17:50

Re: seems like n900 encouraged iCrap
 
Could someone explain to me how an iPhone 3G with an update is more of a PC than N900? What am I missing? Do they mean more than any iPhone to date?

I'm "really excited" too. Love the quotes.

That One Guy 2010-01-20 17:57

Re: seems like n900 encouraged iCrap
 
I don't see how the N900 "inspired" apple to put multitasking on a device they've been working on for years, personally.

Much as I love my apple computers, I don't think I'm going to buy the iCrap tablet. I'll likely go with the PixelQi (???) tablet.

Knowing Apple, their tablet will be locked up tighter than Fort Knox on a bad day.

fatalsaint 2010-01-20 17:58

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Yeah.. that "more so than any other" comment was pretty fail. The N900 is by far the better computer - even after the "new" iphone updates. The iPhone, atm, is a better "smartphone" though.

(I use that term in a generic, I mean it this way and don't give a damn how you define it, kind of way. In no way do I want yet another "What is and isn't a phone" debate going on.)

franny87 2010-01-20 21:22

Re: seems like n900 encouraged iCrap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by That One Guy (Post 484706)
I don't see how the N900 "inspired" apple to put multitasking on a device they've been working on for years, personally.

Much as I love my apple computers, I don't think I'm going to buy the iCrap tablet. I'll likely go with the PixelQi (???) tablet.

Knowing Apple, their tablet will be locked up tighter than Fort Knox on a bad day.

I guess you don't get the "inspired" joke. You may not have notice they're suing and counter suing each other non stop dude >.>

That One Guy 2010-01-20 21:35

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It should be funny, in order to be a joke. However, all I'm getting are "http://404.htm Funny Not Found" Errors...

I have notice they are suing each other... dude. What's your point? Companies sue each other over patent infringements, a daily basis.

biggzy 2010-01-20 22:12

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Im just waiting for steve jobs to say "we have invented multitasking" lol, you know how he gets when his products get a feature that other devices have had for years.

Sopwith 2010-01-20 22:17

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Heh, I always had the feeling that Apple implement features only after the advancements in hardware would make those features easy to implement with some extra performance margin. Bringing multitasking to the current iPhone hardware would lead IMO to no less whining and cursing from iLusers than we've read on this forum from "disalusioned" N900 owners...

johnkzin 2010-01-20 23:09

Re: seems like n900 encouraged iCrap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by That One Guy (Post 484706)
I'll likely go with the PixelQi (???) tablet.

The Notion Ink Adam?


Though, for all we know, Apple's tablet (if it exists) will also be a "PixelQi tablet".

That One Guy 2010-01-20 23:19

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That's the one... I think.


As far as the Apple tablet being the same, you may be right. We'll see how locked up the Apple tablet is. Then, I can go from there.

franny87 2010-01-21 05:01

Re: seems like n900 encouraged iCrap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by That One Guy (Post 485292)
It should be funny, in order to be a joke. However, all I'm getting are "http://404.htm Funny Not Found" Errors...

I have notice they are suing each other... dude. What's your point? Companies sue each other over patent infringements, a daily basis.

Just give it up. If you don't laugh is ok but don't try to fool yourself by being wise because you don't accomplish anything by doing so. I'm sorry to say. Sigh* I don't get people like you

Thesandlord 2010-01-21 05:40

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Seriously? iCrap? Its a phone for crying out loud, stop being a fanboy. Nokia did not invent multitasking, all the smartphone platforms have it (unofficially on iPhone). Nokia has the best implementation right now (IMO), but Apple can change that if they can pull it off.

For the claims of it being the most computer like, its just marketing bu||sh*t, which Apple is great at.

franny87 2010-01-21 13:49

Re: seems like n900 encouraged iCrap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 485989)
Seriously? iCrap? Its a phone for crying out loud, stop being a fanboy. Nokia did not invent multitasking, all the smartphone platforms have it (unofficially on iPhone). Nokia has the best implementation right now (IMO), but Apple can change that if they can pull it off.

For the claims of it being the most computer like, its just marketing bu||sh*t, which Apple is great at.

I never said they did nor did i say apple will fail. Why you getting all worked up about it? Calling me a fanboy is funny when i did say "sometimes i want to go for an iCrap" learn to read before posting please. Bashing does not get you anywhere =) iCrap is the new name that goes around nowadays btw so don't get offended if your favorite phone is called that way XD and yet you call me a fanboy lol

franny87 2010-01-21 13:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xobegnaro (Post 485969)
iCrap your ***. N900 will be totally obliterated by the new iPhone.

It already does with the apps hehe. BTW having fun trolling around Maemo forums? since you just joined and is your first post hehe :D

volt 2010-01-21 13:57

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The only interesting part of this for me is...
Whatever tablet market advantage have had since the 770 is gone.

Thor 2010-01-21 14:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ndi (Post 484691)
Could someone explain to me how an iPhone 3G with an update is more of a PC than N900? What am I missing? Do they mean more than any iPhone to date?

I'm "really excited" too. Love the quotes.

The new firmware update will add in a new hardware keyboard ;)

gerbick 2010-01-21 14:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by franny87 (Post 486644)
It already does with the apps hehe. BTW having fun trolling around Maemo forums? since you just joined and is your first post hehe :D

Spell the name backwards then search... not his first post here.

I just love how many names come out for the competition from this crowd. I want to see something totally original for once.

Multitasking has been in the jailbreak scene for a while. If anything, that scene has been slightly ahead of Apple - copy and paste, multiple ways to scroll through apps, Google Voice, terminal/SSH, among MANY other things the jailbreak scene has added to that platform.

I can't say if OS 4.0 will be what I've been looking for in terms of multi-tasking - probably will not, the N900 has that part covered lovely - but them adding it is not inspired by anything other than the fact that their desktops do it already. Why not the phone?

Now... N900 needs more apps. When they get more, does that mean the iCrap inspired the N900? Hmm?

Sopwith 2010-01-21 15:01

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Afaik, Palm Pre was the first iPhone direct competitor on the touch-screen smartphone market that advertised multitasking. N900 was largely unknown by the time.

Thor 2010-01-21 15:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 485400)
Heh, I always had the feeling that Apple implement features only after the advancements in hardware would make those features easy to implement with some extra performance margin. Bringing multitasking to the current iPhone hardware would lead IMO to no less whining and cursing from iLusers than we've read on this forum from "disalusioned" N900 owners...

I agree. Their "100,000 apps" aren't optimised to work in a multi-tasking environment either Multiple open apps will be fighting to use RAM, processor cycles etc

Thor 2010-01-21 15:16

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I considered the iPhone before buying the N82 when it came out, re-considered again before getting a Blackberry Bold instead, and et again before upgrading the N82 to the N900.

They'll keep people stuck in iTunes which just puts me off. The one time I installed it last year to see what the fuss was all about, it had auto startup things going on and looked like bloatware. I am much happier with drag and drop and SD cards :)

I considered getting an iPod Touch last night but remembered the Tunes problem, so that's off unless I get one for £10...! I don't really want to get multiple non-standard chargers and computer connectors either, I have enough micro and mini USB cables already.

franny87 2010-01-21 15:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thor (Post 486762)
I considered the iPhone before buying the N82 when it came out, re-considered again before getting a Blackberry Bold instead, and et again before upgrading the N82 to the N900.

They'll keep people stuck in iTunes which just puts me off. The one time I installed it last year to see what the fuss was all about, it had auto startup things going on and looked like bloatware. I am much happier with drag and drop and SD cards :)

I considered getting an iPod Touch last night but remembered the Tunes problem, so that's off unless I get one for £10...! I don't really want to get multiple non-standard chargers and computer connectors either, I have enough micro and mini USB cables already.

You know what I'm in the same position as you. I would love to get an iCrap and specially the 4G but then thinking about it I considered getting myself an iCrap touch BUT then again i said I'll just wait for the Mac World Convention this upcoming month and see if there'll a new iCrap touch with Bluetooth and camera or something XD Since i already have the N900 i wouldn't want to pay 700$ or so for a new phone. I'm really intrested on the iSlate though which i think i would really get for the price of 1k which is not bad i guess.

franny87 2010-01-21 15:24

Re: seems like n900 encouraged iCrap
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 486722)
Spell the name backwards then search... not his first post here.

I just love how many names come out for the competition from this crowd. I want to see something totally original for once.

Multitasking has been in the jailbreak scene for a while. If anything, that scene has been slightly ahead of Apple - copy and paste, multiple ways to scroll through apps, Google Voice, terminal/SSH, among MANY other things the jailbreak scene has added to that platform.

I can't say if OS 4.0 will be what I've been looking for in terms of multi-tasking - probably will not, the N900 has that part covered lovely - but them adding it is not inspired by anything other than the fact that their desktops do it already. Why not the phone?

Now... N900 needs more apps. When they get more, does that mean the iCrap inspired the N900? Hmm?

Sure and then the SUE BATTLE will continue XD and then nokia will Counter Sue mwahahaha I find it interesting on this 2 company fighting over who can sue better lol

gerbick 2010-01-22 21:36

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Companies suing each other is par for the course. Hell, how long did Nokia and Qualcomm go at each other? I'm starting to think that "lawsuit" is legalese for "competition".


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