Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

hey !
as they say , they both will :

-Be widget-able ..
-Have open-source
-support multi-touch

, Which one will be the better ?

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

It's actually Symbian ^4 that will be the big Symbian Foundation release. Symbian ^3 is sort of "half-way-point", bit like Maemo 5 is the last step before Maemo 6.

As for which one is better? I don't think that's really important question. Nokia* is developing both for different purposes. Hopefully both wll be very good for what they intended for.






*In reality Nokia does the vasy majority and dominates Symbian development, despite what Symbian Foundation and Nokia says about coperation in Symbian development

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

The one that ships with vi.

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

Maemo 6 most probally. Symbian^3 seems to get pretty much all the stuff that Symbian 9.5 was supposed to be, starting from screenplay, but nothing like Symbian^4 where Maemo 6 should be compared.

AVKON will be pushed away for Qt in Symbian^4 and we should be seeing Nokia's direct UI. It will be totally different beast compared to Symbian^3. My guess is that it's UI is similar to Maemo 6.

Considering Maemo seems to be targeted for people like me i would be going for Maemo 6 when it comes rather than Symbian^4, but you never know. :)

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

I'd say Symbian^3 is of the same generation as a patched Maemo 5, not Maemo 6. Symbian^4 is the future contestant to Maemo 6. If the rumored S^3-equipped N87 12MP comes true, then the S^3 platform can be considered as a half step toward "the big one", or Maemo 5.5 equivalent if you prefer.

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

which will be better cheeseburger or pizza? car or truck? etc.

there is no absolute value with which to rank OS. Whatever works best for you.

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

There's an old saying - follow the money. By all indications, Nokia's investment in Maemo is chump change versus their investment in Symbian. I think they'll introduce features in Maemo 6 as they have in Maemo 5 but perfect those features in Symbian because that's where they make their money. So Maemo will be first and Symbian will be better. We'll always be the bleeding edge.

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

Does anyone really care about Symbian these days? Who really wants to develop applications for Symbian? I really don't know (I'm not a symbian developer), but I have never heard any positive comments about Symbian.

I don't consider Maemo as a silver bullet for everything. There are some major issues that needs to be solved before it can really be a "flag ship" for Nokia.

The direction (of Maemo) in large scale is going to the right way and I'm glad to see that. I'm quite curious to see where this all goes. So as I said, one vote for Maemo.

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

if you looked at nokia's plans for the future you'd know that their planing on 3 platforms
S40 - low end cheap mobiless
Symbian - midrange smartphones
Maemo - high end sophisticated mobile devices

symbian is projected to be their largest market while S40 is going to grow alot more as they expand more into poorer countries.
maemo is projected to expand slower but they plan on releasing 1 maemo 5 device this year and (if i recall correctly) have 4 next year.

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

stop reading engadget.

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

I'm far from a Symbian fan(Yes I'm a Maemo fan :) ), but a lot of people are mistaken about Symbian. The platform is far from dead, I agree that it has some problems, one of them is Symbian C++ (horrible), but Symbian is a very robust, complete and stable OS, at the moment, the major problem is the outdated UI.
With Qt's help I bet it will have a new life, we'll see who's wrong ;) .

Anyway Maemo will rock.

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

Symbian is probably the best mobile OS out there, capable of running on multiple types of devices with very little hassle and excellent hardware management.

UI though, needs re-work. I am actually not sure that for my particular use cases, Maemo 6 is going to be better than Symbian^4.

In any case, since both Maemo 6 and Symbian^4 devices are supposed to be released this year, a side by side comparison will be interesting.

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

"The Future Contest", definitely not for developers. If you are a serious Maemo developer I invite you to think seriously on "The Future Collaboration". Symbian and Maemo will power different devices and will address different markets, but in terms of APIs the trend is to converge.

You are seeing the Qt releases, which are the backbone of this strategy. Be prepared for a cross-platform Web Runtime running on top of Qt's WebKit (probably with a straightforward porting path to the rest of similar Web runtimes out there).

Yes, we know that Symbian and Maemo are bulding different layers on top of Qt but expect common sense for developers there as well. Wait for the SDK releases and you will see.

I can imagine most of you (and many more to come) selecting Maemo as primary platform for development thanks to its openness, flexibility and the cool powerful devices. But as much as you love Maemo it would be a mistake (or your own personal choice) to restrict your audience to Maemo users when you will have millions of API compatible terminals out there.

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

From what I see in Qt, developers will also be able to further "embellish" their apps with special APIs that exploit the particular qualities of the platform they are running on, I am right?

Edit: I think that froma geek point of view, it would be interesting to compare the performance of S4 with M6 running on similar OMAP3 HW. How they address memory, CPU, battery, etc

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

That's strange, because I made one on the Dui versus plain Qt thread. Symbian has the mass market, and that is a compliment.

Symbian C++ as a programming language, well, it has some quirks, but those were perfectly understandable at the time it was created. The only language quirk I really hate is their daft idea of indenting { and }.

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

Yes I know I was bit rude and you're right about the market share that symbian has. My apologies if I hurt someone's feelings.

My point was that I really haven't heard any positive comments about symbian, ever. I know plenty of people that have been developing on symbian platform but they all have been really happy after the those sym bian related projects have been finished.

Re: Maemo 6 Vs. Symbian^3 - The Future Contest ..
 

Well, the good thing about Symbian OS is that there is an enormous amount of functionally complete middleware you can use in your apps. The stuff that is part of apps in other systems, is reusable in Symbian OS.

And that became one of its major pain points too, because without good docs and examples it is very hard to find and use these API's.