Nokia's quiet comeback - BBC
 

iPhone loving auntie beeb plugs N900. :) . Steve Jobs distorting reality as usual.

"Who is the biggest noise in the mobile world? In what looked like a moment of hubris during his iPad keynote on Wednesday, Steve Jobs claimed it was Apple."

"I've not yet had a look at it, but a number of people have told me that the N900 is pretty impressive. It's sold by retailers as a smartphone - but Nokia describes it as "a powerful touch-screen computer with excellent communications capabilities." it's obviously rather a different beast from the iPad, but its existence shows that Nokia does not want to be caught out again by the arrival of an innovative device which shapes a new market, as the iPhone did."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereport..._comeback.html

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Well, the n900 is nice, and I'll probably get lynched for saying this here, but right now the Motorola Droid is the best smart phone on the market, period. If the n900 can rise to the awesomeness of the Motorola Droid, then the n900 might retake the crown and beat both the MD and the iPhone into a paltry little pulp of bloody gore. Of course, throw in a little bit of the HTC Sense's UI goodness and you've got an unstoppable winner. ;)

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Why blame the entire company when it was only one jerk....

EDIT: Well, on second thought, never mind !!

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Steve Jobs represents everything Apple, and so should be considered the devil in all ways and things. I touched an iMac for the first time ever yesterday, I still can't feel clean and I've been in the shower for 2 hours....

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ofcourse..nokia is quiet comback.. bec that bbc always advertise apple product.. look at how many time they mentioned n presented about the look n picture of iphone.. go n search the n900 photo.there is non on their website. but we r not that stupid enough .. we r well informed about which is the best phone

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The Droid still has no flash. The N900 had from day one.

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We usually don't heard the last part where Steve says "in my dreams" in those sentences.

Largest mobile devices company in the world??? I think they also count iPod as a mobile device.

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i dont think MD is better that n900.. with the browser, i guess ur wrong.

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There are several DROIDs at work undergoing testing, and we just got two Nexus Ones in today. The DROID suffers from having a keyboard that is simply too flat. It's large, yes, but the uncertainty with regards to typing is too high for any reasonable speed. The Nexus One is probably good but, well, no keyboard.

Aside from being the best Android device with a keyboard, I'm not sure what's so great about the DROID, honestly.

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I'm really new to the smartphone market. And whilst waiting at a verizon store so that I could get a prepaid data plan, I sat at a kiosk and played with a Droid. Saw the ads in commercials and understood this was a iphone killer hopeful, but had no idea that I was playing with an Android phone at the time. I was thinking to myself. Bleh. Okay. Whatever. Not impressed with the UI.

Then after being wowed by the N900, I researched the competitors, and lo and behold, that unimpressive OS I played with was Android. Hmm. Is it any wonder that as Engadget displayed the Nexus One for the first time, I again was unimpressed. I do understand that Android is great because of the large availability of apps. But I think it failed to nab me because it's premise was improving on a limited cell phone os interface to begin with. Whereas the N900's premise was to turn a netbook/computer into a phone. And that really is what these smartphones should strive to have. I am by no means a phone aficionado, but do love my computers. The day that a phone has the type of smooth operation that my Thinkpad has, I will be a very happy camper. As it stands, the N900 is the closest thing to providing me that experience.

Re: the blog. I hate all things apple as much as the next person here. But as long as the majority of the worlds population prefers convenience and familiarity with someone telling them what is and what's not cool like the Lemmings that they are, Apple is in great shape. What they shouldn't do is try to pretend they are something that they clearly are not. It's typical American-centric thinking. They have a huge market share in the US and conclude they own the rest of the world.

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Hmm, given that I don't use the camera feature, I guess I never saw that as a failing. But I guess that could be considered one.

As for why the droid is best, I guess there's just too many things to name. As for the keyboard issue, that's never been a problem with me. The n810 had the same problem until you learned the keyboard, and then everything went fast. Of course, I got tired of the keyboard after a while and found that I could actually pound things out faster with the onscreen keyboard, so I haven't looked back since. It's actually kinda hilarious to be using that and then see the expressions of people as you hammer away with it like a madman. ;)

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Wait, what kind of flash are we talking about here. Is it flash player or the camera? And, really, too many things and you can't even name one.

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lol .... he thought you ment a camera flash . . . lol . . . . I guess it is unconceivable to have full flash on a smart phone:D

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Right their you said it .... it is the best Android device with a keyboard . . . . The specs are great a big high res screen, a keyboard and Android. Android is the best part of the equation . . . Google Mobile OS's built-in proprietary Apps are the best . . . . The Google Maps and the Google Voice Recognition and unmatched by any mobile device including the "MAGICAL" iphone. (don't really see how the UI is really that magical compared to Mobile environments like Maemo on the N900 and desktop environments like Linux-Compiz )


Non the less, Google's API Powered Apps give them a very unfair advantage with Android / Google Branded Devices.


The part that sucks?


These Google Apps are proprietary and even Android devices not made with Google's Help and Approval will not include them. Even if NIT-DROID is successful in bringing Android to the Nokia N900 hardware.... the software will suck big time because without Google's proprietary Apps, Android can not even begin to compare to the Maemo OS.


Distributing Google Proprietary Apps would be illegal :cool:

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i think the driod is one of the best phones on the market. but i do also think its little over rated. known as the phone that does... but it seems like most of the features that they promote on he droid is taking 5mp pictures, running apps and has a swappable battery, honestly it promotes features that pretty much all high end phones have. except for the iphone haha.

i dont see how its better than the nexus one in terms of the os. the only thig it has on the nexus one is that it has a full physical keyboard, and that doesn't even matter to me (i'm using virtual keyboard on the n900).

droid is a great phone but don't listen to all the hype. the n900 has full flash, fm transmitter, maemo and a bunch of other things not built in other phones, the. nexus one has great specs all around. iphone has a huge collection off apps. all the phones have their advantages and all the n900 people here value its features more and thats why we own one

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Thank you for putting into words what I have been thinking since the iPhone first came out.

Just pisses me off that I live in the same country as people who are just so stupid they can't even do their own research on ANYTHING!!!

Idjits...

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Glad your picking the right side ;)

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Well, it seems that judging by the responces you maybe should have said 'in my opinion' instead of 'period' because, after all, that's really all it is, is it not. sorry for taking issue with the use of the word 'period'...but i've woken up early and seem to be on my period. Period. :-)

Danielle

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I'll be watching the SuperBowl next weekend between arguably the 2 best teams in the USA, but whoever wins will be proclaimed World Champions...

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I'm not sure but last time I checked the majority(39%) of mobile users were Nokia. I also seem to remember 4th Quater results showed growth for Nokia in the smartphone arena and a drop of 0.3% for apple. So not everyone in the world is drinking the Kool-aid.

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Nokia is really relatively quiet, and specially about Maemo. I mean, they have made annoucements that it is their future, and gave lots of attention to it in Nokia World, but it is still considered more of an offbeat device.

The other side is that they are marketing the device for a specific public. They are going for developers, hackers, "gearheads", whatever you call them. They are caring more about getting it right, and relying on the word of mouth. And I love seeing that, it's the only totally “honest” marketing strategy.

Google does that often, with their invite-a-friend strategy when they launch stuff. Apple also certainly relies on the viral publicity too, pushed by their hosts of fans.

What I want to say is: may the best phone win. I respect people who do their thing in silence, instead of blabbing about it. Maybe it is not Nokia who is quiet, it's just the others who are loudmouths.

Nobody is being quiet there at the PUSH N900 website. Lots of people showing great stuff there, quiet work they've done, and having fun. All noise I hear from Apple is about money, censorship and restrictions. And Google is quite quiet themselves too if you think about it... Just some controversies too now and then.

Closing up. Largest manufacturer of mobile devices in the world is probably Nike. And boy, do those sneakers move... And their numbers are also impressive because every bought means two devices!

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I think you miss my point. I was talking about the majority of the population being the sort to prefer convenience to control/complexity in general. What I did not say was that Apple had a monopoly on that market. Obviously with Nokia's excellent ability with diversification they have mobile devices that grab a large share of that market. Not to mention Motorola as well. I just stated that Apple is in fine shape because they create devices that attract a large market and from a bigger picture standpoint don't need to be making outlandish claims or have these delusional grandiose ideas about being the premier mobile device manufacturer.

Maybe if you read my original post you'll see that I'm not contending with you at all.

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All I want is a healthy competitive market, yet one that isn't so fractured that developers can't really deliver compelling apps across the platforms. That way we get competition and innovation, and consumers can chose the device that's right for them.

I don't think everyone should have a N900. Me - yup. My son - yup. Rest of family - nope, probably more iphone types. And that's just fine...

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And why is the ''Droid'' best smart phone on the market,''PERIOD'' ?? And please include the ''awesomeness'' part in your explanation, so I can stop laugh....