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Hi and Bye
Hello everyone,
I have had N810 with Maemo and Mer for a while, then upgraded to Aigo MID. Recently my Samsung Epix that I have used for work got on my nerves (hangs etc) so I decided it is time to upgrade my phone. After a little fight with my wife I dropped almost $550 on N900. I was ready to live with only EDGE connection (stupid AT&T) as long as I would have stable phone with required features (Exchange push support, Wifi and decent web browser). Unfortunately none of the advertised N900 features work. 802.11x PEAP-MSCHAPV2 with WEP doesn't work and is resolved as WONTFIX (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=417) N900 just asks for WEP password and completely ignores the settings I have set for workplace WLAN manually. So WiFi is broken for me. MfE doesn't seem to support client authentication with personal certificate and it doesnt support provisioning. Therefore it will not work with Exchange at my workplace. So Exchange support is broken for me as well. So I just paid $550 for a brick. Whats worse is that Maemo developers are not interested in fixing any of these problems. Therefore I will try to reset this phone to factory settings and return it to Amazon. It is back to crappy WinMo for me. But at least it works in enterprise environment.My second adventure with Maemo is over in 2 days. Bye everyone. |
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Did you update to PR1.1, the last update? That solved a lot of people's complaints about Exchange support.
Otherwise, sorry to hear the bad news man... |
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Yes I did update.
I'm sorry too. The UI is great and it is awesome to use. Not to mention Quake3 ;-) But what good is Q3 on my phone if I the most important function that I need (Exchange) doesn't work. I refuse to buy DRM ridden iPhone or evil big brother Googlephone so I will have to stick with old rickety WinMo. |
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Nothing wrong with WinMo, especially running on HTC HD2! As I enjoy my N900, HD2 for T-MO is next on my list o-O
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hah I'm too am fed up of this. Same as you at my workplace we're using a similiar configuration and I cant connect, just says autentication failed. nice fail device, it did not live up to my expectations. I think I would be selling it and buy the iphone
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i too returned my N900 to Amazon. i still have a N810. my problems were similar also, AT&T with EDGE, tried T-Mobile and the phone had issues keeping a connection. i can't justify EDGE speeds anymore, it's just too slow, epsecially on a smartphone. furthermore, i was hoping that Ovi Maps would come out with turn-by-turn navigation, but that doesn't seem to be the case until Maemo 6. i haven't had a WinMo device in years. i tried a N97 mini, but S60 v5 really is not fluid for touch screens and the N97 mini build quality was terrible (Made in China)...i've had several E Series devices that are much better build quality (Made in Finland). i'm thinking of getting an E72, or i'll have to wait 1 more year for something better from Nokia, hopefully Maemo 6 based.
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i too will be getting rid of my n900. it is too unstable. basic things are not really weeded out. i need more than jus the featured functions. i need at least a reliable phone and smooth integration of applications. nokia really neglected this one in my opinion.
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agreed. fun phone to "play" with. otherwise its pretty bad.
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If what you are looking for is a nice and stable work-horse, I would recommend an E71. Should be cheaper than the E72, perhaps is not the most eye-candy phone ever, but gets the job done.
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Yeah, N900 isn't that good for business use imo.
It also doesn't support WPA2-LEAP. Another WONT FIX. OVI map has no turn by turn and no idea if we'll ever get it. Music player doesn't even have equalizer..... N900 is an amazing little machine. Not a great all rounder however. |
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It's really sad to see the N900 failing in enterprise environments so often. The device isn't markteted in E-series, so it's not an enterprise smartphone, but still, the hardware and OS would be more than capable to work with enterprise environments.
But I think the biggest problem here is that enterprise environment often means Microsoft infrastructure. Of course WinMo shines there. And most other solutions fail horribly because Microsoft doesn't disclose all necessary details for creating reliable clients. OTOH my company runs an IMAP4-based mail server and I have absolutely no problems with E-Mail on the N900. For me it's a great device for always having my mailbox with me. The same was true with the WinMo phone I had before, but it was awkward to answer mails on that. Whether the N900 is a viable enterprise smartphone solution highly depends on the infrastructure you have to work with. Traditionally, for Microsoft infrastructures WinMo works best. Calendaring is also an issue that the N900 isn't good at in enterprise environments. For me it's OK, but YMMV. |
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Why do people complain about every little bit of kit that doesn't work for them? Yes I can understand that you can't access $service or whatever and that it's marked as WONTFIX. Hello you have root on the device. If you wanted to you could probably set it up to work the way you wanted. Would probably be a clunky solution but it would work.
I don't like A LOT of the N900 software stack. But I don't complain... I find ways to replace it or improve it. I don't like the mediaplayer... so I replaced it with xmms2+mplayer+djmount to get the same functionality. And to prevent all the things I'm replacing from taking up space I have a tool(still in development) that replaces the previous pkg with a dummy one. If all you need is a device that just works without tweaking then get a Symbian device or iPhone or whatever other device you consider the best. |
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You could probably set up MAPIProxy to connect to Exchange using certificate authentication while the N900 authenticates to the proxy through UP.
With regards to the wifi, 802.1x PEAP has never been advertised as a feature on the N900, or any other NIT, so please don't slam the N900 as having nothing working. |
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Maybe Maemo devs could use wpa_supplicant instead of trying to reimplement everything from the scratch, badly. |
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you need provisioning? was I correct?!??!? If I was, I am glad to receive a mention of honor about my mind reading skills. |
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what I find really interesting about this post is a nice amount of "just joined" posters who use nearly identical language to hate.
I'd say most are the same guy trolling over and over and over and over and over. |
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Dont be a fool. Didn't you read what the OP said about how he was once a N810 user. Even if you dont believe what he said did it bother you to take a look at when he joined the TMO before opening your mouth? You probably did not know there was any such thing as "maemo" when this guy was playing with his N810 maemo device. Why does anybody who show displeasure/diaapointment in the device gets labeled a troll? |
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Sort of "the world is over just because I did not get my exact feature but I love n900". And then we hear a chorus of newly joined ... "I hate n900 I am selling it". if somebody wants an exact feature and they are not 100% sure the device has... how about they hold off on buying ... Especially when it comes to functionality that MS providing I stand by what I said ... concern trolling at best ... just trolling at worst. |
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regarding provisioning - i beg you to read the marketing material etc. etc. or even to FIND documentation on MfE.
See MfE from Nokia is not documented very well - and in marketing all phones just shows as "MfE" Exchange support. So as a prospective buyer - you have NO way of knowing what you get - since MfE on Symbian is VERY different to MfE on Maemo - (well they are not really the same software) so if anyone is to blame it is NOKIA! MfE does not have same specs on different platforms Ovi Maps does not have same specs on different platforms just to name a few. They should call them something different so people do not get confused. I got an E900 with MfE Lite, Ovi Maps Lite and VPN Lite IF that had been communicated - I would not have bought the N900 and been such a troll about it! ;-) |
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vpnc on Maemo is actually pretty nice.
And I don't hate N900. I actually love it. If I did not have to use it in corporate environment I would have kept it. I am just disappointed, because it is cool and I can't keep it. If Maemo dev team gets their stuff together and fixes MfE (provisioning, user certificate authentication) I would probably buy it again. 802.11x would be great as well but I could live without it. As for the recently joined stuff. I have been member of internettablettalk forum fow a while.I have some experience with Linux. I had Zaurus SL-5500 and SL-C3100 with pdaXrom and OpenZaurus. I had N810 with Maemo and Mer, and I had N900 ;) Because my addiction to Linux gadgets I will be probably back here when Nokia releases another Maemo phone. |
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