New Firefox Fennec is slow and unresponsive
 

anyone else having issues with the browser user experience? its slow and the responsiveness is no where near as good as the one the n900 came with. i love my native browser im sticking to it until they fix these issues.

p.s
the thing freezes my phone as weel sometimes and yes i have the newest version installed.

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I agree, its still not very usable compared to microB.
However got the impression that besides startup time it seems to be faster.
On the other side, I failed to sync it with my weave account. Anyone else having this issue?

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Yup same here even the latest version Firefox.. got freeze couples of time too and slow. No as good as it claims.

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It´s slow also here.
- While page is loading whole browser stalls
- Misses swipes and taps
- No feedback if link you clicked is registered and next page is loading (like popup of addressbar)
- Kinetic scrolling hits its fastest speed too early. Should be faster when compared to microb.

Its a bit sad because I think that there is margin for making default browser even bit faster and then someone releases this kind of stuff as final product :|

BUT when it manages to load page and there is no issues then its quite nice browsing experience.

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Not to mention the 30-40second startup time.. I'll be sticking to MicroB..

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It's not garbage, If you don't like it, don't use it. Some developers put lots of time and effort in developing this browser, without being paid by Nokia and you call their work garbage? I think is a good start, and in time will probably catch up with MicroB.

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i'm loving it for sites that didn't render correctly in microb and once they correct few bugs and make it bit quicker it will be my default browser

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The "Near Me" plugin is my current/only use for Firefox right now. Nice supplement for the microB, and better than the Google Maps/geolocation "workaround". I just wish that Near Me could produce more than 4-5 results.

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It's not perfect by any means, but it's a good start, I hope the team behind it continue to work on and improve it. If the performance can be tweaked and improved, it'll be a real badge of honor to have Firefox on the machine.

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I last objected when it rebooted my tablet but I'm really loving the double click to resize a site. In fact I think for everything other than FB I'm going to use it. That double click is really working wonders.

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It seems OK to me as far as speed, but I could not get Flash content to work, even after changing the plugin setting to false.

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I pretty much use Firefox as my standard browser, it starts relatively quick(3-7 seconds), it has some add-ons already(and more to come, I hope) and it does support flash, after enabling. And with Adblockplus installed it barely slows down, sure sometimes it won't react immediately but I still like it. Plus tabs spells awesomeness.

@Rushmore: See here for instructions to enable flash, works perfect for me: http://www.nokiaphoneblog.com/?p=2945

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anyone seen any problems after enabled flash?

does it only working for youtube? or what is this?

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No it enables the built-in flash plugin, the exact same one as in the built-in browser. The Mozilla team disabled it for performance reasons(read: flash ads is everywhere). I just tried it on youtube, I have not tried anything else.

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According to this whitepaper MicroB's rendering engine can be changed, looking at "browser --help" in the terminal shows this too, with the --engine=myengine parameter.

Has anyone tried running the fennec engine in microB? Maybe the slowness is a UI issue and not a Gecko issue

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Edit: after change the parameters for ff, its working great.

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HA! didn't even notice flash wasn't running. Portends well for the iPad. *snicker*

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I just tried playing tetris, it works perfect. Try accessing this file: http://bskin.org/tetris.swf
It works perfectly on my N900. It's also kinda addicting, now that I tried playing it :D

If that doesen't work, I really don't know whats the problem.

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flash dont work with this, there is no setting to enable it
whats the point of this app when the n900 browser does have flash?

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you can enable it...if you want and dare...:) I just did...read a few post up and you will find the answer.

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theres nothing in this thread explaining what to do, and theres nothing in ff setings to enable flash

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Read here: http://www.nokiaphoneblog.com/?p=2945
Now there is no reason to run the internal browser, at least not for me :D
(Also, Weave is a amazing add-on, if you use Firefox @ your computer)

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The Firefox Mobile page has a link to the Release Notes whereas you can find a section named Known Issues and among those they state:

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so we have to type:
about:config
into the browser to enable flash
how did i miss that one!

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If you're goint to use flash in Fennec I would advise you to install the Adblock Plus addon, that way you block flash ads and will probably prevent Fennec from crashing altogether when you view a site with many ads.

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Firefox=FAILED!

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i don't agree...but your post = ******.

think ff have some nice features, and give em some time. it's always good to have alternatives. atleast I think so.

I think ff will be great in a few months time :D

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No, I think its a great browser, the UI is a little bit slow but the single fact alone that it syncs with all my bookmarks & history from my home computer(and school laptop) more than weighs up for that.

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I posted this response to fennec due in part because i love my n900. i'm just getting tired of all these unfinished products coming out. i love the native browser and will stick with it until firefox gives me a product complete. whats the use of being the first to have a product that is unusable and slow? for those of you who do like waiting for a page to load and not being able to scroll through it, you mind giving me the secret to ur love of the browser or am i taking crazy pills?

i was so excited when i heard we were the CHOSEN to use fennec now i feel like a CHOSEN beta tester...as it is we get enough crap from engadgetmobile wait till they try fennec.

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How do you unzoom afterwards?

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Slow? I think not. I've played around with Firefox for a few hours now and haven't noticed slow page loads. Quick with good scrolling. Enabled flash and it works pretty well so far. (Hint: if you enable flash, install AdBlock.) Miss the circle zoom a little, but double-tap or Ctrl + Up/Down works well. Has only crashed once and hasn't caused any reboots or other nasty effects. Tabbed browsing is cool and better fonts than MicroB.

The more I use it the more I like it. A good start on a very usable UI. In fact, I'd make it my default browser if I could organize bookmarks into folders. So not quite there yet but good for a 1.0 version. Right behind MicroB as the best mobile browsers I've used yet.

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ey, I'm with ya, the first thing I did when I got my new n900 was install firefox because I absolutely love it on the desktop. It does nothing the built-in browser doesn't, and its slower and doesn't do flash.

so I uninstalled it. oh well, it its still a great desktop app in on x86 desktops on all OSes.

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It actually does flash, is barely slower than the built-in browser, it has some add-ons already and with Weave(https://mozillalabs.com/weave/) I think it beats the built-in browser, easily.

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I also think most fast and quit nice to handle.
BUT: the zoom function!!! :-(
On german keyboard there is no Ctrl Up and down. So since the volume +/- Button are not used for uooming I will use microB for browsing.
On small displays a good, fast and simple zoom is one of the most important things for a browser!

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You can just double tap on the text section you want to read, and it will zoom in. Double tap to zoom out again. Or hold down the blue symbol button and ctrl and then using the arrows.

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Lets of course not forget that microb (the n900 built in browser) is based on the firefox rendering engine! The n900's brilliant browsing capabilities out of the box are in part due to the rendering speed of gecko, which microb and firefox have in common.

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Double Tap is ok but symbol button AND ctrl AND arrow is a no-go for me. Especially if you know microB with Volume +/-. It could be so easy...

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Is there "any" way to get the xmradio "online" account to play via Fennec or microB? I believe it is an *.asx stream, but using a "flash based player".

Along those lines, any way to get access to one's slingbox via sling.com (i.e. set browser to not present itself as "mobile")?

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Well, I assume someone in the future will write a add-on so you can map keys as you want... or, as a matter of fact, there is such add-on for Firefox but I don't think it works on Fennec. Now I have to try.