N900 Data leak!
 

Hello,

started using my N900 4 days ago updated to the lastest firmware.

Yesterday night went to sleep at 1AM Data counter showed 12MB downloaded and 2MB uploaded through 3G woke up this morning with 40MB downloaded & 3MB uploaded.

I have updated everything (applications) that day over wifi and no new updates are available for my device running the latest firmware... Online application running that night were Ovi Contacts + RSS + OM Weather.


Another N900 with a friend and colleague did the same also he ended up loosing all his monthly quota!



any ideas?



thanks

Re: N900 Data leak!
 

omg same here. So my brother wasn't whining for nothing. I also exceeded my monthly quota and was always connected to wifi.

Re: N900 Data leak!
 

mine does the same but only if i want it to! if you are using the weather widgit then that updates about every 30 mins and will send/receive data. I also use FB and Twitter feeds as well as AP News feeds so mine is always updating.
Personally i just disconnect connections over night or when i dont need it to save usage and battery. cheers

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i agree with you... but you have many applications that requires constant data transfer... i only have Email Messaging + Ovi Contacts + OM Weather widget and they were on for the past 3 days with 11MB in total consumption what happened yesterday night to have the consumption increase 30MB in one shot? knowing that all applications and firmware were updated over wfif & no new updates are available so that to say it might have updated something in the background over night...

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I wouldn't expect that scale of data from just RSS & weather, but I guess it depends how many (and what size) feeds and how often they're updating.

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@arzleb: I'm not sure what to say, but one thing I can tell you is that Maemo will never forcibly or automatically install updates without your say-so. Nokia's attitude (which is good) is essentially "you own the darn phone - you do what you want with it", and so they don't meddle with things like that. There is an app that adds a "Tablet Mode"/"Phone Mode" button to the power button menu, which would allow you to switch off phone functionality temporarily, if you wanted to make sure it didn't use data. Other than that, I can't help you, as I don't have a cell plan on my N900.

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i removed all RSS feeds & removed the RSS widget.

i am still on Ovi contacts + Weather + Email so far in the past hour total data spent is 250KB.

still monitoring it tough! :confused:

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@jaem thank you for your input.

thank God that i had the Data counter widget installed or i would have never discover this, my friend exceeded his monthly quota i am just waiting for him to confirm if he used the RSS or not. that might narrow it down.

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You may want to adjust the update frequency settings for e-mail and weather. Also, I think some apps allow you to only update when on wifi, or similar options.

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i'm not sure but the RSS service might also download pictures inside the feeds, and that's a pretty beefy chunk of data, especially if it's updated often.

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that is being applied well and N900 is switching smoothly between wifi and 3G. now Email set to 10min update for 3 accounts + weather set for daily update + ovi contacts all consumed 11.2MB over 3 days the surge in consumption was yesterday night for 30MB. The only modification i made yesterday was adding an RSS source and adding RSS as a widget on desktop.

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Hmm... Are you taking into account changes in volume/size of e-mail and RSS feeds received? That still is quite a difference, but there should be reasonable reasons for it. This probably isn't relevant in your case, but just to point out, if you want to live on the edge and test out alpha/beta-quality software from -testing or -devel, be aware that that may have adverse effects in this regard, or others. I had a seemingly-harmless system daemon I was testing apparently eat my battery in half a day yesterday, and if you were to use unstable software that made use of the network, Badness might ensue.

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Have you added any podcast software that may have pulled a new episode down over night?

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I am back on 3G for 2 hours now, total consumption is 400KB active applications: Nokia Email + Ovi contacts + Weather.

disabled RSS...

Re: N900 Data leak!
 

nope the last thing i changed before this sudden surge was adding an RSS feed and adding RSS to the desktop. i am trying to narrow it down...

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I heard that people at Nokia Headquarter like to secretly tune in your front webcam to check you out while you sleep. That explains the battery drain.

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creeee...pppy....
and No, they don't. :P

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Those of you trying to figure out how to disable image downloading in RSS... there is NO global "no images" option. (No, the Image cache option does not turn off image downloading.)

If you want to stop the images from downloading, you will have to disable images on each and every feed. You can do this by getting info on your feed (the big i on the toolbar) and unchecking the images checkbox. You will have to do this for each and every feed as they are downloaded automatically by default.

Also, I believe there are other issues with the RSS feed reader... I'll have to look at the bugs again because I know it has some strange problems.

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Doesn't the phone also check all the repositories once per day, if you have all the testing/devel etc. repositories installed that will eat several megabytes.
Just did apt-get update and even when many of the repositories were skipped (I think apt-get can check the date of the repository list and skip it if it has already been downloaded), but still it used 5021kB.

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thanks DeeGee well u have pointed out something very important...

now the question is Are the repositories update done in the background without our control? and if yes how can we disable it?

5 hours have passed and my consumption increased by 1MB only... so far so good!

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I believe it's checked about once a day when you switch connections. You can't disable it but you can set the interval incredibly high. There's instructions on how to do this elsewhere in the forum.

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update:

total consumption since yesterday is 3MB with some minor browsing...

Ovi Contacts signed in + Email + weather

so it seems the RSS had to do with this sudden surge in MB over night... now the question is: is that normal or the RSS has a major bug that need to be fixed?

Re: N900 Data leak!
 

what about using offline -mode overnight?

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The system is also checking for updates regularly. This can transfer a few kB or MB, too, by downloading the package indexes, depending on which repositories you have enabled.

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i dont want to go offline i might need it over night... but at the same time i dont want to be forced by the N900 to update something while i dont want to do it.

also it seems its an RSS issue.

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how to disable this?

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It could well be normal - depends on what's in the feeds and what the RSS reader does with enclosures (attachments) by default.

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RSS does not automatically download enclosures.

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In which case, unless there's a very large number of high-throughput feeds, I can't believe that it would download 30MB in a single night without there being a bug.

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If it is downloading them, they are nowhere to be found or inaccessable to users so... it would be very odd.

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I've removed the Skype, Jabber and IRC accounts from Conversations and my traffic has dropped to what I would consider normal levels.

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well i removed all extra repos then disbaled RSS, made Email updates on wifi only (push working normally tough), kept weather amd IM on and now my daily traffic has dropped to 2MB / day without browsing.

Morning surge or upon connection has dropped from 6MB to 2MB