N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

Hey, i was wondering since there are a lot more n900 type phones out in the market now. Which phone do you think is better in overall.

N900
Droid
Nexus

Post you opinion which phone you prefer. Which phone you think is better and why and how. I also want to know if you had a choice to buy one of these 3 phones which phone would you get.

Try to be fair even though this is MAEMO forums. My nokia n900 is at repair centre so im thinking of also buying 1 of these phones. So, once again tell me which phone you think is better and break it into points.

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

Lemme see ... N900 :D

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

Well..Probably Droid then N900. Wouldn't touch a nexus one. The Droid and N900 have better hardware and physical keyboards. Plus I had endless problems with the Nexus One that I had.

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

You really asking that question on the MAEMO forums?

Droid - Motorola product, I'd never buy it.
Also;
- Flat Keyboard
- Android
- Fugly

Nexus
- Poor 3G
- Google product....
- Poor support
- Many S/W problems
- Many complaints

N900
- Lacks some basic needs


So yea, N900. But these are forums FOR the N900, bit biased.

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

Had a Droid, liked it, but had reception issues in what was supposed to be a solid 3G coverage area, 2 miles from "2" different Verizon stores, and 3 blocks from Verizon CO. :rolleyes: But I blame the Droid, following the much improved reception I had with my antennae mod.

I think the Droid has a lot to offer...obviously tight google integration, if that's what you're looking for. Native email apps still seem buggy after two updates, per the android forums. Again obviously, there are a decent amount of "useable apps". I may go back, if I can get a US 3G support Milestone, for the simple fact that they'll have Sling/HAVA/Monsoon support, which will most likely not come to Maemo. I do miss the larger screen on the Droid, along with the louder call volume.

I think that out of the box, the 900 has a lot more going for it. I was pretty much able to replicate "all" my Droid functionality with the 900, and its limited apps, back in early December. However once the Droid hits the app store, its game over. If NAV is what you're looking for, then its a no brainer, but I have in-dash NAV so its a non-issue for me. If the 900 had a few more "bells-n-whistles" on the native phone/calendar/email/(and media player for some people) apps, it would be really hard to beat.

For me, the 900 would be perfect if:

- The Flash based media players worked on the Flash sites I want to use (sling.com, xmradio online), or there was "an app for that", but that's not Nokia's issue to resolve.

- Louder call volume

- More options for setting "recurring events" in calendar

- The USB port was not so fragile


But my points are all moot, because the best phone is the one that fits your needs the best.

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

Very simple choise

Nexus One
- No physical keyboard
- Limited built-in memory

=> FAIL

Droid
- Made by Motorolla........nothing else matters.

=> FAIL

N900
- Missing basic phone functions
- Compared to other to choices....more pros than cons

=> Best choice out of the 3.

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

I dont think this is type of question to ask on this forum, you will get most of the answers -N900 ofc.. :D

And yes, I vote myself for N900 too.. Droid is good I think,..but motorola....come on man, are you serious???
And nexus...well, maybe., but I really like this physical keyboard...I would never change it for phone without one...I am typing on my phone right now anyways.. :)
I dont say n900 is perfect, it has some issues, but it is really nice tablet :D

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Hmmm...I thought this subject had already been beat to death, but here she is riding again. All I'm going to say is that the N1 unlocked cost $529, the n900 can be had for $533 (from dell), and just on the bare numbers offers more bang for the buck. Even if we assume that the experience provided by the processor is roughly the same, and comparable apps can be found, the n900 comes with 32GB built in, in addition to the microSDHC slot. The N1 come with 500MB, and the microSDHC slot. As always the question really is what is your usage profile, what features are most important to you? If the keyboard and storage are important hardware features, the n900 is the way to go. If being able to do anything you want to your device is an important software feature, n900 is probably a better choice. If you want a thinner device, with a more polished out of the box experience and tight integration with google's services, and don't mind jumping through some flaming hoops to tinker with your device, then the N1 might be for you.

$529 from Newegg free shipping for the n900

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

RIght now, with the latest firmware upgrades, and based on the comments I have seen in both the Droid and Maemo forums, if you want a phone that can also browse the Internet get the Droid. If you want an Internet browser that can also make phone calls, get the N900. If you want Google integration, get the Droid. If you want Linux integration, get the N900.

If you want it all, wait and see what Dell comes up with in the Mini 5/Streak, what Nokia does in the next firmware release, and what Motorola does either with their firmware or with new models, and then reassess your options.

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

Thanks everyone. Well, Im a hardcore phone user. Ever since i had my n900 i hardly sat on my PC. Just started again as my phone is at repair centre.
But, what i mean by HARDCORE phone user is that, i use my phone for everything. Browser, games, gps (will pay for sygic), smooth touch, physical keyboard, etc. I just love everything in a PHONE.

Besides iphone(WHICH I HATE), i also had HTC HD2 in my mind too, but since its windows i just had to cancel that decision. So, wat u guys say now?

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

Nexus One is made by HTC, just Google branded and have Android on it, no difference than other Andorid phone.

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Personally, I'm very impressed with the Droid I'd purchased. It's certainly done a lot more incredible and enjoyable things than I've seen anyone go on about in the forums.

I have excellent navigation, my phone features are excellent, visual voice mail is excellent, the screen is very excellent, the available library of applications is enormous and I can STILL hack it if I'd wanted to (rooting) but I specifically do not want to do that to what I depend on as my phone (hence why I never wanted an N900 and preferred an Internet Tablet) but I've been surprised with the number of things I can do with it that I never needed to be root to do after all. I can even script little doodads in my favorite script languages (like Python or BASH without rooting)!

I still want a hackable little computer to play with, but the N900 will certainly not be it due to the higher cost to lower features ratio.

As for the Nexus One, I have to admit that I think I would have prefered it over my Android. I personally don't like/need a slide-out keyboard.. and the DROID keyboard is terrible. I also prefer its styling and sleek thin body over the Droid phone. All that being said, however, I prefer to avoid GSM network technology for a lot of reasons.. but they do have a Verizon CDMA version in the works, which I'll prefer. I'll likely give my Droid to my mom at that point.

But like colnago said, it's really a personal preference based on what you need... those were my particular preferences and rationales. Your mileage may vary.

Nokia N900 vs Nexus One Full Specs
 

Here are the full specs for both the Nokia N900 vs Nexus One

Here are the basic highlights

Where the Nokia N900 Really Shines ~

*~The Speed of the Nokia N900 is faster for the 3G Data Connections . . . 7 Mbps on the Nexus vs 10 Mbps on the Nokia

*~Built in Stereo Speakers on the Nokia vs a single speaker phone on the Nexus One

*~32GB Hard Drive Built-In on the Nokia N900 vs no hard drive on the nexus both have Micro SD slots for optional upgrades

*~Better Quality Camera and a Secondary front facing camera for
video chatting on the N900

*~FM Radio and Transmitter for easy wireless car integration

*~Adobe Flash 9

*~Built in Skype integration

*~TV-OUT Watch DVD QUALITY Movies and Flash Videos on any Television!

*~ Full Keyboard

*~ Better for Multitasking

Where the Nokia N900 Really Shines ~

*~ Faster Processor

*~Slightly larger screen 3.7 on the Nexus vs 3.5 on the N900

*~More Sensitive Touch Screen


*~ Better Maps App

Hope this Helps :)
http://thumbla.com/images/images/nexusoiri.png

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

Heh.. that's an incredibly disingenuous assertion you make, there. Particularly when you make such comparisons as.. for examples..

'Browser: HTML, No RSS Feeds'.. how many browsers do you think there are on the Android platform? And what even makes you think that you can't get RSS feeds? I may not have a Nexus One, but I do have a Droid..and it handles RSS feeds brilliantly, thank you very much.

Better still, my favorite is the comparison of Google Maps vs OviMaps for navigation. For one, you don't use Google Maps for navigation on the Nexus (or on my Droid), you use Google Navigator. Google Navigator is, by all accounts and on every account, superior to OviMaps. I would rather like to see Sygic compared to Google Navigator--THEN it's a real and qualified competitor that I might prefer.

Another question--infrared port? The N900 has an infrared port? Where is that? I didn't know it had infrared. Better still.. WHY? Is this 1999 again?

Edit: Holy geez.. it does! http://thenokiaguide.com/2009/11/17/...emote-control/

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

yes it had infrared always hehehe lol. The reason i ask for this comparison is that i need a second phone. Which can be another n900 or droid. HTC HD2 is sexy but i go with android of windows any day as far as my experience goes.

So, danramos, since you have droid, do you mind putting DRIODS features and all info about it so i can compare with N900. If you have N900 also, mind posting a video of both of them side by side??

If not, please post how it does in multi tasking, sound(dual speakers?), keyboard(commands?), games(graphic wise), GPS(DRIOD WINS), touch of droid compare to n900, etc... please if you dont mind. Thanks

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

ummm . . . Ok . . . first of all I did not write the specs comparison in the image . . . I was just trying to help the OP . . .


RE : Browser

I am not sure what they mean by No RSS Feeds in Android . . . but if you would like to compare browsers . . . . I think the N900's Firefox Based Browser with built in Adobe Flash and plug-in's such as Ad-Block beat the Androids Webkit Browser any day of the week and I feel it is the closed thing to a desktop experience in a mobile device.

RE : Google Maps vs Ovi Maps

ummm . . . Not sure what your beef is here either . . . . In my highlights of the Nexus One I Clearly said it has a better Map App . . . . Are you mad cause I didn't call it a "Navigator"??

Even the Commercials call it "Google Maps Navigation"

RE : Infrared Port

ummm . . . . Yea it has an infrared port . . . . whats wrong with that?

It also has a TV Out so you can plug it into your TV and watch your burnt DVD's and then turn your TV off with your phone when your done. :cool:

(dont worry it has blue-tooth and wi-fi too - All the hardware on the N900 is faster in means of connectivity Wifi, GSM, 3G ect)

This was a non-biased comparison of the RAW SPECS of the Devices HARDWARE . . . . I honestly don't see how it can be disputed ???


I think somebody is just mad they can't get a Nokia N900 on Verizon Wireless :p

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Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

http://crypticclarity.com/linux-smar...oid-milestone/

here are the specs of Droid vs N900

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

Several of those details are completely wrong or stated disingenuously (like the camera)... also, they appear to be comparing it to some kind of GSM Droid... which doesn't exist yet, I don't think--certainly not in the US.

Heheh.. java: no? The whole damned application system is based on Java. :P

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

Webkit HTML5... yeah, right...

@danramos: they probably mean MIDP2

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how is the multi-tasking on droid?

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

Unless you routinely buy a new device annually, one additional issue to pay attention to is long-term support.

In the case of system software that means the lifetime of supported (or available) version(s) of Maemo vs Android.

Here Google has little track record being relatively new to the market, but at least their motive is thee availability of Google services so one could expect them at least not to hinder the porting of new versions of Android to past devices. There's also quite a bit of action on the alternative/modified firmware scene.

Moto wants to sell devices, plain and simple, but the Android porting scene and activity applies here as well.

Nokia, well, being in control of both the hardware (support lifetime) and system software (support lifetime via compatibility) leave the customer pretty much at their mercy. Oh, and Nokia simply wants to sell new devices and based on Maemo's track record once a new hardware platform is introduced, the previous models cease to be supported and the alternative scene unfortunately isn't there to maintain let alone improve the user experience.

Then for a long-term user there are other considerations, such as cost and availability of repairs and spare parts. E.g. if a certain model is widely and officially available in your region, the chances are that it can be repaired easier than less common alternatives...

It's all down to your personal priorities.

Personally I find long-term software platform support/availability much more valuable than most unessential physical hardware variations between same generation devices.

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

Then again, Google's Android can't be recommended if they continue forking the Linux kernel instead of working with the upstream like Nokia (to their credit) does...

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

N900 is more flexible, there are no development lock downs from my experience so far on Maemo.

As long as the app is legal, stable & community is happy with it, your app will get released !

How could you want more to that !

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

The Motorola "Milestone" is the GSM Counterpart of the Droid and It has been on ebay since early December.

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

And I think they mean Java for web applications like Paypal Printing . . . . Another thing the Nokia N900 can do that the droid can't . . . Print a Document to a Color Printer.

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

There's lots to like about the Android phone. But for me the non-start is the privacy concerns. I wish maemo was as popular (ie 3rd party support, mainstream expectance, tec), but I enjoy the control that This plaeform give us right now. I'm not a programmer, but I would guess that it would be caught pretty quickly if nokia had feature that's invaded our privacy or needs.

I'm really enjoying this phone, surfing on more than my laptop lately. It's already been integrated into my morning routine. I can only hope it gets better, but if it does most everything now I'm I wouldn't be destroyed if the updates slow down, cuz it will eventually,

x

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

...as well as amazon.com, expansys-usa.com (UK site had exclusive UK distribution agreement), and a few other US based "e-tailers".

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

AFAIK, nobody has demonstrated that if you use an Android phone you lose any more privacy than if you use a Maemo phone. Google tracks you when you use your Google apps or access Google sites regardless of what device you use to do that. Your carrier tracks you whenever you use your device regardless of what OS it's running.

If you want to condemn Google for the amount of data it has about the world's population, fine. But Android has nothing to do with it.

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

It's great, really. Works fine but I prefer the N900 method of task switching. The Android is a motley bag of 'huh' when it comes to switching between running applications.

Still, aside from that, it multitasks very well--a little too well. One other niggling detail is that you never really know when an application has closed and freed up memory. I really don't understand why Android applications don't completely exit when you back out of them, as you'd expect. This needs to be resolved. I've managed to keep things running smoothly and efficiently by watching the task list in a tool called 'Task Killer' but, really.. I shouldn't need to do that.

I... wholeheartedly.. agree! Very... very much. For all the bellyaching I do, I do recognize that Nokia's been participating. I still have a few reservations about how much they're actually truly open-sourcing in general.. but they are at least doing THAT for the kernel. HUGE thanks to Nokia to that end!

I did not know that! Thanks!

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

looks good, but its still confusing. I guess im going to have to buy DROID and test it out for my self for a week or two just to see which phone should i get next.

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

How many fart apps are there in the android apps store?
If the fart apps comprise of less than 0.42% of the total number of apps, then it's a platform worth taking notes of.

Reference:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=20

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

LOL.... that is really surprising. Nice find buddy:)

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I am not sure about the Droid but on the G1 a Google Account is required to use the device. Period.

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Most Android phones require you to enter Google Account details before you can access any phone functions. Developer phones such as ADP2 will allow you to skip the registration process. If you choose to skip that step then you will be required to complete the registration before you can access any of the Google applications such as the marketplace.
Of course there's nothing at all preventing you from just creating a unique Google account for use with the phone: that way you don't give away any more personal information than if Google just recorded activity against the phone's internal identity. It's probably a futile exercise though: as soon as you start storing phone numbers in your contacts (which are then backed up to your Google account) or sending and receiving emails you might as well accept that Google knows everything you do.

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Androlib lists about 70 (7 pages of 10 but I couldn't be bothered clicking to the last one to see how many on that page) so that would be about 0.26%

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

If you have a Droid/N1, and use "most" of its functionality, Google has insight to the following, at minimum:

- If you want to transfer contacts from a non Android phone, list has to go to Google for conversion (Exchange excluded)...they know who you associate with.

- GVoice, they know who you contact, and for how long

- Turn on GPS, use for application and search assistance...they know where you are.

- Create custom maps and use Nav...they know your habits and where you're going.

- Calendar...they know when you're going to go.

- Use search/browse history to aid Google in helping you find what you're looking for...they know what you like.

- GDocs, stored online...they know what you're working on.

- "Backup my settings"...they know how you use your phone, and have copies of personal files stored on the phone (I did a full flash of phone and SD card, still got my wallpaper back...and then some?).

- You want a decent POP3 mail app, "have" to use Gmail...they have all your personal email.


Is Google using that info for your detriment, or their benefit? Who knows however the Droid, and or your gmail account, is one heck of a "single point of failure". Not recommended if you're a "person of interest".

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

I think colnago, Duncan, mrebanza have said it well. Phone companies know where you are and who you talk to, web searches can track your interest (I use adblock with easy privacy and search with scroogle.org scraper..these help a little), your router keep logs of your site, etc. My problem is that google is one company that collects a lot of info from multiple sources on any and all platforms, and as far as I can tell their main purpose is to make a profit from ad and tracking services. What happen if they're bought out, will the next owners have respect for your info.

This for me is too much, for other not so much. I'm just thankful that for now nokia is probably the only company that has HW/SW that is not tracking everything you do (they probably will eventually). I'm not saying android sucks, because it doesn't...there's actually some very cool tech going on there and with google other services. I just choose not to participate.

It's probably a loosing battle, but I'd like to hold on to what little privacy I might have left... :D

x

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The final straw for me, aside from the poor reception in my area,

http://androidforums.com/motorola-dr...light=homemade


...was when I flashed the Droid, and "everything" I had on the phone came back. I had no way of knowing, nor controlling, what went up, nor came down, from "Google's cloud". There wasn't even a way to control "when/how" the backup process initiates...and good luck finding out where that info is online, and what's there.

:eek:

Re: N900 vs Droid & Nexus One
 

colnago is spot-on here. Words cannot express how glad I was to find the N900 so I could have a killer phone with 3G, get away from Google/Android and keep the great deal I have with T-Mobile USA. Maemo was a huge bonus thrown in, or so I thought at first. But it's actually the best part of all.

That said, I still use Google Voice - but only for business, not personal calls. For work, it's just too handy to pass up for free.