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oldpmaguy 2010-02-05 16:26

Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
I just want to get this info out there, with mad props to Ukki, the author of this fine app!

I was just messing about and I tried streaming a 720p MKV onto the N900, and it worked! So I decided to push it, and attempt a 1080p MKV, and it also worked! Yes, the 1080p file was not quite a slideshow %^) but there it was, on my N900... simply amazing!

The 720P file was completely watchable, I should point out, with only an occasional dropout.

I was going to do a nice little video showing this, but my cam skillz are sadly quite poor. I may still put it up, but for now, I recommend you go get Knots2 from the dev repositiry and play around with it for yourself (if you're the type that does that sort of thing).

I guess I should make the mandatory warning that downloading and using any app from the developmental repository is highly risky to the health of your N900, and you should do so at your own risk and be aware of the consequences for needing to reflash your phone, data loss, etc etc.

Ed. Here's a video on Youtube showing it in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkGPkXkcFss
You'll just have to take my word for it it's the same file being played on both screens!

forteller 2010-02-05 17:02

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
How does it stream it? Over USB, Bluetooth, wifi?

oldpmaguy 2010-02-05 17:09

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
It's streaming it over WIFI, sorry I wasn't more specific. All the info you need is in the Knots2 wiki here

http://wiki.maemo.org/Knots2

PS Added a link in the OP to a Youtube video demo'ing the process.

asidana 2010-02-05 17:16

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
it transcodes them. see profile settings

oldpmaguy 2010-02-05 17:21

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
Ok it transcodes them but it does it on the fly and I don't have to reencode my data manually and load it onto the N900. So yes it's not true 1080p but the source is 1080p and it's hassle-free, wouldn't you agree?

For me the goal is to be able to load up a HD video and play it on my N900 without ripping the disc and waiting hours for the file to be ready. So, 1080p on my N900 is not a misnomer, I think. Anyway, thanks for clearing it up, it's not really 1080p playing on ther N900's 480 screen.

asidana 2010-02-05 17:26

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
i didnt dispute anythink. im using it quite happly. great app.

flydeep 2010-02-05 17:34

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
Did you have to install additional codecs for mkv playing?

oldpmaguy 2010-02-05 17:38

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flydeep (Post 512133)
Did you have to install additional codecs for mkv playing?

Nothing more than I already had on my PC or my N900. Remember, it's transcoding the files on the fly, so it's making it useable for the N900 immediately. You shouldn't need to add any codecs.

I should add, here, that it also does an amazing job of getting DVD video onto the N900 immediately, even from the DVD drive. This is nice if you've got a library of discs ripped to ISO on your computer's HDD, as some people do.

speculatrix 2010-02-05 18:26

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
is it transcoding or re-wrapping the video in a different container?

oldpmaguy 2010-02-05 18:34

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
The Knots2 wiki says it transcodes to flv when using the "browser profile". I find that the "N900 profile" looks a lot better, there's a lot of macroblocking on the browser transcode.

In the local settings, accesed in the localhost:1978 address, there are settings for each transcoding package, and it shows that the N900 setting is transcoding to XviD. So I don't think a wrapper is being used.

There are a lot of settings to tweak, you can even tweak VLC's setings. So far I haven't found a sweet spot for 1080, but 720 seems watchable with default N900 settings.

ToJa92 2010-02-05 20:38

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oldpmaguy (Post 512116)
Ok it transcodes them but it does it on the fly and I don't have to reencode my data manually and load it onto the N900. So yes it's not true 1080p but the source is 1080p and it's hassle-free, wouldn't you agree?

For me the goal is to be able to load up a HD video and play it on my N900 without ripping the disc and waiting hours for the file to be ready. So, 1080p on my N900 is not a misnomer, I think. Anyway, thanks for clearing it up, it's not really 1080p playing on ther N900's 480 screen.

Well if the user have a slow computer the transcoding will be slow, thus the video will lag.

Bit off-topic:
Can you play "raw"(not converted/transcoded) in any way 720p / 1080p from the internal memory / a memory card?
Or is the N900 too weak?

romanianusa 2010-02-05 21:34

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
It streams ANY video regardless of size and quality. It doesn't mean you're getting the exact quality dude. It transcoded.

Lacedaemon 2010-02-05 21:47

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
Just tried it with MacOSX, and although it setup correctly some videos do not play if N900 transcoding
is selected(browser works although macroblocking appears as mentioned on post #10).
Any suggestions?

oldpmaguy 2010-02-06 01:57

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by romanianusa (Post 512420)
It streams ANY video regardless of size and quality. It doesn't mean you're getting the exact quality dude. It transcoded.

Yes, we've already established that. This is still the fastest way to get HD video from your computer's HDD onto your N900 screen, however. Useful if you have a fair amount of HD video. many people do - 720p MKV is very popular these days. No need to transcode for portable viewing = win.

(I haven't tried it over 3G, though - has anyone? Any results to speak of?)

deiviboy 2014-06-18 18:55

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
hi guys i was trying to download knots2 installer for windows but the link at the wiki site says the file has been taken down.. anybody know where else to download it?

speculatrix 2014-06-18 20:53

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
I think a lot of people use Handbrake now for video transcoding, so I'd take a look at that now.

deiviboy 2014-07-03 05:56

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by speculatrix (Post 1430084)
I think a lot of people use Handbrake now for video transcoding, so I'd take a look at that now.

thanks! i was just wondering if handbrake also has pc to n900 video streaming?

Kossuth 2014-07-03 07:24

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
Not reading the whole thread and stumbling here like an idiot, but if you are trying to find a media(dnla)server for windows to use with N900, you might thy the Universal Media Server to serve your files. It has supported N900 for long time (got and update for that support just few weeks ago) and I have used it randomly to view some content over LAN. Don't know if you could forward it to even internet. Normally I use with my PS3 and Ipad locally.

deiviboy 2014-07-15 00:13

Re: Knots2 streams 1080p, 720p onto N900!
 
thanks for that info! :D do i need to install a client for my n900 or knots2 would take care of it?


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