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ocramavaf 2010-02-08 17:03

N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Hello people its my first post and i'm here hoping you guys can give me some info on the N900 because i really like the phone, but i have been considering a nexus one ever since i heard about it.

I have a few questions about the N900 as a whole

first i wanted to know what the GPS on the N900 is really like, i mean how is the lock on and the accuracy in general, i am currently using an N97 and the GPS capability is absolutely crap, i mean i dont need a hardcore navigation device, just something to mess around with every now and again when i go geochaching and so on

second i heard there was an update to make the N900 more user friendly, as in make the portrait mode more useful, i wanted to know to what extent did the update succeed, for example would i be able to type in a simple sms or direction into the phone using it in portrait mode via an on screen keyboard?

Third i wanted some info about the general battery life, like if i had the GPS on and a 3G connection how long would the battery run for?

And last, and sorry for the extent of the post, hardware aside and from the bottom of your hearts which is really better the nexus one or the N900?

thank you for the info

fatalsaint 2010-02-08 17:06

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
There are several threads with nearly exact same titles as yours.

here for example is N900 vs Droid vs Nexus. And here is a first hand review of both and several pages thereafter of community discussion.

You are not going to get anything new in this post that hasn't already been addressed many times.. I'd suggest starting with those threads and looking through them, then using the search above with keywords such as "Nexus One" "android" etc... to see many, many others.

If you have a specific question after that.. feel free to ask :).

Welcome to the Forums!

ocramavaf 2010-02-08 17:12

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
thanks i will read through

craftyguy 2010-02-08 17:14

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 516499)
here for example is N900 vs Droid vs Nexus. And here is a first hand review of both and several pages thereafter of community discussion.

And here is a nice non-biased (ie. NOT found on a maemo forum.. lol) comparison of each:

http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbt...p?Number=35653

fatalsaint 2010-02-08 17:20

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by craftyguy (Post 516511)
And here is a nice non-biased (ie. NOT found on a maemo forum.. lol) comparison of each:
http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbt...p?Number=35653

Hey now, just because its not found here doesn't make it unbiased... there's just a higher probability that it will be biased in favor of the *non*-maemo device :D

craftyguy 2010-02-08 17:23

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 516518)
Hey now, just because its not found here doesn't make it unbiased... there's just a higher probability that it will be biased in favor of the *non*-maemo device :D

Lol, but it'll be a lot less biased than a review done on a maemo forum (or android forum for that matter), and these guys review a ton of phones :P

sjgadsby 2010-02-08 18:20

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
I've merged the two duplicate threads. ocramavaf, please do not open multiple threads on the same topic.

pataphysician 2010-02-08 18:46

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
The Mobiletechreview is biased because it's by Lisa Gade, who is a long time Java developer, and also an old Apple developer. Of course she is going to like a Javaesque development platform, for the same reason GNU/Linux developers are going to be biased towards Maemo. This is not to say don't read her review, but it's wise to know any reviewers background.

col37400 2010-02-08 19:01

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
The GPS on the N900 is a lot better than that on the N97, in my experience

Guber99 2010-02-08 19:25

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
how do you GPS on N900......I am so used to google maps on Nokia e71, that gps on N900 is not that obvious

craftyguy 2010-02-08 19:36

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by col37400 (Post 516648)
The GPS on the N900 is a lot better than that on the N97, in my experience

The GPS device itself is great, it locks quickly (when on a data network), and seems to be accurate.

However there is nothing for the N900 that even touches Google Maps for Android/iphoneOS. Ovi maps only locates about 60% of the businesses I search for, and the other 3rd party options (map buddy, etc) are equally as bad at finding POIs. Some argue that you can use maps.google.com in the N900 browser, but it's extremely clunky trying to use the 'pointer mode' in the N900 browser while on the go :)

Laughing Man 2010-02-08 19:46

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
The GPS itself no the N900 works great, the navigation software on the other hand is just bleck.

ocramavaf 2010-02-09 01:32

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
yeah i know gps hardware on the N97 is absolutely crap, i dont know how drunk nokia people were when they decided to make the N97 theri flagship device but anyway im saying without network support if you just wanted to use the gps and punch in a bunch of coordinates and see what it told you and if it found the point you were looking for, would the N900 do it within a reasonable time? (not the couple of weeks or never the N97 takes)

UNderworld 2010-02-09 02:00

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ocramavaf (Post 516495)

first i wanted to know what the GPS on the N900 is really like, i mean how is the lock on and the accuracy in general, i am currently using an N97 and the GPS capability is absolutely crap, i mean i dont need a hardcore navigation device, just something to mess around with every now and again when i go geochaching and so on

hi there, I have been on the same boat as u, and guess where I ended :P .. HERE .. :D .. Its TOTALLY a personal choice.. U can watch millions of videos / reviews but what YOU want will not be there.. U have to try it yourself..
The GPS is good.. i used it a few times only one day and it locked really quickly...


Quote:

Originally Posted by ocramavaf (Post 516495)
second i heard there was an update to make the N900 more user friendly, as in make the portrait mode more useful, i wanted to know to what extent did the update succeed, for example would i be able to type in a simple sms or direction into the phone using it in portrait mode via an on screen keyboard?

It probably made it more user friendly, a few bug fixes etc.. but only the phone works in portrait.. There could be apps to do that, but its not in the stock OS.... I have seen an on-screen keyboard, but its no good to b honest..

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocramavaf (Post 516495)

And last, and sorry for the extent of the post, hardware aside and from the bottom of your hearts which is really better the nexus one or the N900?
thank you for the info

I have not used the Nexus one. i cant comment on that.. I have just started using the N900..
I personally find the non-portrait bit a bit annoying.. and the lack of call/end call buttons makes me think of getting a nexus sometimes later on..... but its still too early.. Ill have to get used to it for a bit...

have a look at the link below.. I talked in a bit more detail what I think of the phone.... good luck in choosing..... i know its hard .. lol

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=43610

mrebanza 2010-02-09 02:14

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Here are the full specs for both the Nokia N900 vs Nexus One

Here are the basic highlights

Where the Nokia N900 Really Shines ~

*~The Speed of the Nokia N900 is faster for the 3G Data Connections . . . 10 Mbps on the Nokia vs only 7 Mbps on the Nexus

*~Built in Stereo Speakers on the Nokia vs a single speaker phone on the Nexus One

*~32GB Hard Drive Built-In on the Nokia N900 vs no hard drive on the nexus both have Micro SD slots for optional upgrades

*~Better Quality Camera and a Secondary front facing camera for
video chatting on the N900

*~FM Radio and Transmitter for easy wireless car integration

*~Adobe Flash 9

*~Built in Skype integration

*~TV-OUT Watch DVD QUALITY Movies and Flash Videos on any Television!

*~ Full Keyboard

*~ Better for Multitasking

Where the Nokia N900 Really Shines ~

*~ Faster Processor

*~Slightly larger screen 3.7 on the Nexus vs 3.5 on the N900

*~More Sensitive Touch Screen

*~More Apps

*~Voice Dialing and Googling

*~ Better Maps App

Hope this Helps :)
http://thumbla.com/images/images/nexusoiri.png

mrebanza 2010-02-09 04:10

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UNderworld (Post 517109)
hi there, I have been on the same boat as u, and guess where I ended :P .. HERE .. :D .. Its TOTALLY a personal choice.. U can watch millions of videos / reviews but what YOU want will not be there.. U have to try it yourself..
The GPS is good.. i used it a few times only one day and it locked really quickly...




It probably made it more user friendly, a few bug fixes etc.. but only the phone works in portrait.. There could be apps to do that, but its not in the stock OS.... I have seen an on-screen keyboard, but its no good to b honest..



I have not used the Nexus one. i cant comment on that.. I have just started using the N900..
I personally find the non-portrait bit a bit annoying.. and the lack of call/end call buttons makes me think of getting a nexus sometimes later on..... but its still too early.. Ill have to get used to it for a bit...

have a look at the link below.. I talked in a bit more detail what I think of the phone.... good luck in choosing..... i know its hard .. lol

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=43610

The non-portrait mode support REALLY sucks . . . I know that this is on an app by app basis but we should at least have portrait mode on ALL the stock app!!!!!!

twaelti 2010-02-09 08:06

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
What I don't get: why doesn't Nokia push more in advertising about the included 32GB? This is HUGE and worth a 100$ alone.

slender 2010-02-09 08:14

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
mrebanza,
Nice picture. I´m pretty sure that N900 supports 32 gb microsd even thought its not said in specs. There was none of 32 gb on market when N900 was released.

dcman 2010-05-26 07:29

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Hi, resurrecting this thread for two reasons: (1) Froyo was just released (at least a near final release candidate) and (2) I recently bought a Nexus One and flashed with Froyo and intend to use both the Nexus and my beloved N900 for a few weeks to determine if I want to keep one (or both perhaps).

I will post my experience once I've used the Nexus One w/ Froyo for another week or so. I'm interested if there are more recent experiences with the Nexus One, particularly with Froyo, among the N900 community here.

My key pain points with the N900 are around email - the incomplete Exchange implementation, laborious process to switch between mailboxes and the lag to do so are huge pain points for me in my life as a mobile professional. Thus the primary driver for evaluating the Nexus One, as I would prefer support for at least two multiple Exchange accounts, a more complete Exchange implementation and a generally better mail client (IMAP as well) than the N900 currently has.

First impressions with the Nexus One w/ Froyo are extremely favorable. Experience with a lot of phones over the years suggests first impressions can be misleading, so I'll reserve judgement for a while.

Suffice to say, my N900 first impressions (great) have proven out over time, which is rare for a phone. With the headline exception of email (and navigation, Ovi Maps 1.0 = yuck), I think that the errors on the N900 are largely errors of omission rather than comission - in that there is much missing functionality, but what is there works well (at least for me).

Sorry about long email.

Please share your Nexus One experiences, esp. with Froyo (2.2).

Flynx 2010-06-01 03:19

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dcman (Post 678238)
I recently bought a Nexus One and flashed with Froyo and intend to use both the Nexus and my beloved N900 for a few weeks to determine if I want to keep one (or both perhaps).

Ditto. My nexus should get here tomorrow :D I will use both for a few weeks and share.

It is my opinion that the N900 hardware is better, and the N900 running android would be the best of both worlds. Theoretically that is possible...

...someday...

paulkoan 2010-06-01 04:44

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
I'd be interested to hear how the N1 battery life compares, with similar usage profiles.

.

God_Lx 2010-06-01 04:53

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flynx (Post 692885)
Ditto. My nexus should get here tomorrow :D I will use both for a few weeks and share.

It is my opinion that the N900 hardware is better, and the N900 running android would be the best of both worlds. Theoretically that is possible...

...someday...

While it pains me to say this the Nexus One hardware is actually better, better CPU, more RAM (tough we got Swap).

We do have the internal 32Gb that's nice, and the Flash in the camera, but apart from that I still wonder why they didn't use a Snapdragon on the N900... (I'm guessing a lot of it has to do with the SGX chip)

I would definitely love an N900 with a Snapdragon(or the new Hummingbird but being Samsung might be harder) and 512Mb RAM (maintaining the swap or even reducing it to 512Mb)

wmarone 2010-06-01 05:03

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by God_Lx (Post 692957)
While it pains me to say this the Nexus One hardware is actually better, better CPU, more RAM (tough we got Swap).

The Snapdragon is dubiously better. Same architecture, issues with the graphics.

Quote:

We do have the internal 32Gb that's nice, and the Flash in the camera, but apart from that I still wonder why they didn't use a Snapdragon on the N900... (I'm guessing a lot of it has to do with the SGX chip)
Qualcomm and Nokia have been going at it fiercely for years, and when the N900 entered design stage I suspect a number of things were in play, including their pre-existing and extensive relationship with TI and the Snapdragon only just exiting sampling phase.

Quote:

I would definitely love an N900 with a Snapdragon(or the new Hummingbird but being Samsung might be harder) and 512Mb RAM (maintaining the swap or even reducing it to 512Mb)
The only thing that has me disappointed is TI being so slow with their A9 based processor. I'm still baffled that Nvidia is the first out of the gate with the Tegra 2.

Flynx 2010-06-01 21:22

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by God_Lx (Post 692957)
While it pains me to say this the Nexus One hardware is actually better, better CPU, more RAM...

I look at the overall package. Sure, N1 has the snapdragon, but the N900 is overclockable. The N900 also has a front-facing camera, and an FM transmitter, and an FM receiver, and an infrared port, and a hardware keyboard, and stereo speakers, and a stylus.... i could probably go on. N1 has none of that. So I like the N900 package better for its overall feature list.

Flynx 2010-06-01 21:24

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
Had my N1 for about an hour now. One-handed portrait operation is nice to have.

tissot 2010-06-10 19:31

Re: N900 Vs Nexus One
 
I'm going to buy N1 next to my N900 while waiting the MeeGo god phone (;)) and would be interested to know about the browser.

My N900 is overclocked to 900mhz and ~70% of flash video sites play ok or smooth. How would you compare N1 flash performance to N900? How about the browser in general compared to N900?


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