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Mas Termind 2010-02-09 08:32

Why can't I play music whilst on a call?
 
hi

on all the other n series phones i used in the past i could play music aswell as talk on the phone or playback a recording to one of my callers but N900 keeps saying audio is in use by another application? i thought n900 was the bees knees when it came to multi tasking!

does anybody know a way round this please?

marktold 2010-02-09 10:58

Re: why cant i play music whilst on a call?
 
Maybe it's just a philosopy thing.

Like you should not speak while you have food in your mouth. Which we know that many can and do, but should not!

Never would have come up with the idea to listen to music while using the phone. To me it would be like using the cd and tape player on a stereo at the same time.

Regards
Markus

ahmoda 2010-02-09 12:32

Re: why cant i play music whilst on a call?
 
From my point of view.

Enable the audio commands like ( Music & recorded files ) while the call is very important.

All previous Nokia series have this services , this not as Markus said like using the cd and tape player on a stereo at the same time. because the actual need is to let the partner whom you are calling him listen to some audio file , or even music as a sharing between both of you. suppose i want to let my partner hear my baby voice for example.


from this point of view , i see this is very important point need to be fixed.


Thanks
Ahmad

ossipena 2010-02-09 12:36

Re: why cant i play music whilst on a call?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ahmoda (Post 517600)
From my point of view.

Enable the audio commands like ( Music & recorded files ) is very important.

All previous Nokia series have this services , this not as Markus said like using the cd and tape player on a stereo at the same time. because the actual need is to let the partner whom you are calling him listen to some audio file , or even music as a sharing between both of you. suppose i want to let my partner hear my baby voice for example.


from this point of view , i see this is very important point need to be fixed.


Thanks
Ahmad

there are far better ways to send audio files. gsm has a very heavy compression and it is really usable only for human voice.

RevdKathy 2010-02-09 12:41

Re: why cant i play music whilst on a call?
 
Your mistake was in thinking the n900 was the bees knees. It's not, it's the cat's whiskers.

Sadly, as it is an operating system completely new to most of us, and quite, quite unlike symbian, it cannot be counted on to do anything just 'because all my other nokia phones could'. It can only be counted on to do exactly what it says on the tin.

If this feature is important to you, I suggest that you start a brainstorm for it.

ahmoda 2010-02-09 12:48

Re: why cant i play music whilst on a call?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 517602)
there are far better ways to send audio files. gsm has a very heavy compression and it is really usable only for human voice.



In some cases i can't send the audio files because of other partner in the call is outboard , plus he is old man ( let us talk about my father for example) doesn't know much about computer. it was wonderful to share audio voice with him.


However, as RevdKathy said

Quote:

as it is an operating system completely new to most of us, and quite, quite unlike symbian, it cannot be counted on to do anything just 'because all my other nokia phones could'
That is true , and that is why we are trying to get help , or push our needs to the community to give solution if any. :)

slender 2010-02-09 12:51

Re: why cant i play music whilst on a call?
 
I'm sorry. Right now it's impossible to do that kind of stuff. As RevdKathy said this phone has nothing to do with Nokias Symbian based phones so everything has started from zero. So right now I can only say that do not excpect it to function as well matured Symbian phones.

Start brainstrom or add enchantment request to maemo bugzilla.

hmmm was there already something about this in bugzilla?

geneven 2010-02-09 12:59

Re: why cant i play music whilst on a call?
 
It would be nice to be able to play a variety of sounds that implied you were somewhere other than where you were...

oldpmaguy 2010-02-09 14:23

Re: why cant i play music whilst on a call?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 517620)
It would be nice to be able to play a variety of sounds that implied you were somewhere other than where you were...

That's been a very common practice in Japan for years. I can't think of what it's called, though.

For example, you're having an affair and you can call your wife from the hotel, and put on the sound effects radio channel playing office sounds, and tell her you're still at work working late.

anidel 2010-02-09 14:40

Re: why cant i play music whilst on a call?
 
As Kathy said, we can't expect Maemo to be able to support all the little touches Symbian has.
It has some of its own, but lacks many found in Symbian ones...

But it's the community job to push for those changes.
So please, do fill for an enhancements in the Bugzilla or create a new Brainstorm idea for it.

This sounds to me as an enhancement though.

Mas Termind 2010-02-09 15:12

Re: Why cant i play music whilst on a call?
 
Many thanks for all the input much appreciated. One thing though this forum isnt the easiest to follow where do i find the enhancement section please?

slender 2010-02-09 15:34

Re: Why cant i play music whilst on a call?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mas Termind (Post 517806)
Many thanks for all the input much appreciated. One thing though this forum isnt the easiest to follow where do i find the enhancement section please?

Make requests here
https://bugs.maemo.org/

Here is quite nice example how enchantment request should be written:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7178
Read it completely.

And here is more enchantment request that have been or will be "fixed":
http://bit.ly/cBiBKe

shaf 2010-02-17 19:48

Listen to music while in a call
 
I was wondering if you can listen to music while in a call with somebody. Previous nokia phone verions allowed this and I realised this couldnt be done on the N900, thanks.

craftyguy 2010-02-17 19:50

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shaf (Post 532870)
I was wondering if you can listen to music while in a call with somebody. Previous nokia phone verions allowed this and I realised this couldnt be done on the N900, thanks.


Now that's some excellent phone etiquette!

RevdKathy 2010-02-17 20:10

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
There was a discussion of this not long back here. :)

bockersjv 2010-02-17 20:21

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
Call Vodafone customer services and you can get hours of music.

nilchak 2010-02-17 20:38

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
I don't know if THAT is a desired feature at all.... but again to everyone his own tweak ...

davetech 2010-02-17 22:33

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
Kids these days... lol.

DarkPand0r 2010-02-17 22:36

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 532936)
Call Vodafone customer services and you can get hours of music.

I do love a bit of terrible music while on hold.

Missingbyte 2010-02-17 22:44

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
i feel he may have misled his question, sometimes i would play my friends a particular track down the phone so they could hear it ; ) i used to love this feature and is still available on symbian.

crsnwby 2010-02-17 23:20

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
Pointless and useless. If you do want to do this crap then buy a stereo, or even better discover youtube or file sharing.

Mas Termind 2010-02-17 23:33

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
im not the only one who misses this feature then it justs adds a bit of ambience to the conversation i thought this device was all about sharing and multi tasking???

b666m 2010-02-17 23:39

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
mhm... if you have your annoying girlfriend on the phone you could play a record of yourself saying "yes.... yes... yes.... mhm.... yes... yes... *cough* sorry... yes..." and loop it because it may takes a few hours till your girl hangs up :P

El Amir 2010-02-17 23:48

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 532936)
Call Vodafone customer services and you can get hours of music.

if you call Virgin customer services you can actually chose the "type" of music you want! True story! :D

gobuki 2010-02-18 20:06

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
Funny biting reflex some people have here.... just because YOU have no use for something doesn't mean someone else doesn't need it either! So can you please shut up instead of insulting people? Especially if you've got nothing else to say. Thank you!

I miss the same functionality. I just wanted to show a dj set i like to a friend on the phone, but found no way to do that.
About a month ago i wrote a python script that should make espeak speak out who is calling. But espeak cant speak while the phone is ringing. I tried to disable ringtones, but it didn't change anythin. So I guess it's the same mechanism that is preventing the media player from playing while on the phone. But i don't know and didn't find time to investivate it further.

Anyone got a clue? I'd be happy with a pointer to more info about that.


Cheers!

toto29820 2010-02-19 04:26

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
like mic spam in counter strike?

crsnwby 2010-02-19 04:35

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
Indeed, the whole point of that is because your brain can only process soo much, and listening to music whilst also understanding a phone call is simply not possible. Your either understanding the call or the music. Either way pick one and select it on the phone. Not bang on about how it doesnt do it.

jakiman 2010-02-19 04:43

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
I personally don't need such feature but it's not 100% useless feature.

BF: Hey, I got this cool new song from this band. You might like it.
GF: Oh. What is it?"
BF: Wait, I'll play it on my cool N900 directly to you within the call.
GF: Awesome
BF: (Plays the song and sets the volume to gentle.. Song now heard by both parties.)

colnago 2010-02-19 04:45

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crsnwby (Post 533268)
Pointless and useless. If you do want to do this crap then buy a stereo, or even better discover youtube or file sharing.

But if I'm streaming internet radio, and a song I like comes on, then your method won't work when I call my friend, whose a DJ, if I want the song identified. House/techno is not all that easy to find info on.

craftyguy 2010-02-19 05:04

Re: Listen to music while in a call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jakiman (Post 535968)
I personally don't need such feature but it's not 100% useless feature.

BF: Hey, I got this cool new song from this band. You might like it.
GF: Oh. What is it?"
BF: Wait, I'll play it on my cool N900 directly to you within the call.
GF: Awesome
BF: (Plays the song and sets the volume to gentle.. Song now heard by both parties.)

This is the year 2010, and chances are someone is within reach of some sort of device capable of streaming audio from any number of websites that offer it (pandora,etc). You know what I do when I want a friend to listen to a song? I send an SMS with the artist/song title, and let them listen to it at their leisure.

sjgadsby 2010-02-19 13:22

Re: Why cant i play music whilst on a call?
 
The thread "Listen to music while in a call" with eighteen posts has been merged into this thread.

teh 2010-02-19 13:54

Re: Why cant i play music whilst on a call?
 
I have the answer...

Because it runs Linux.

sportfreak2020 2010-03-09 03:05

play music when in call or use camera when in call
 
hey everyone..

i had an Nokia E90 and N95 before buying the n900..and both of those phones were capable of playing music from the music player while you were in a call or even atleast you the camera when in a call..

for example, you are using a bluetooth headset and that you see something that you need to a picture, i m pretty sure we dont havta disconnect calls to do that..

am i missing something or is there a fix for that?

any input wll be greatly appreciated@!! :confused:

rsegerda@sina.com 2010-03-09 08:37

Re: play music when in call or use camera when in call
 
it's no way.
btw, i did have an n95 8GB, why couldn't I play mp3 during a call? it would say "sth is busy" sth like that.
btw, if u play music, ur contact will hear that, won't he?

slender 2010-03-09 08:42

Re: play music when in call or use camera when in call
 
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5881
I think this is releated to phone+camera
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5667

rsegerda@sina.com 2010-03-09 08:46

Re: play music when in call or use camera when in call
 
i do not believe this is a bug

Andre Klapper 2010-03-09 11:25

Re: play music when in call or use camera when in call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsegerda@sina.com (Post 560905)
i do not believe this is a bug

True, it's simply the current design that does not allow it. And N900 is a completely different software platform than N95, hence comparing them does not help.

di1in 2010-03-09 12:45

Re: play music when in call or use camera when in call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andre Klapper (Post 561045)
True, it's simply the current design that does not allow it. And N900 is a completely different software platform than N95, hence comparing them does not help.

So does that mean that there is absolutely no way to get that feature ontot he n900 ?

playing romantic music while wooing girls on the phone had been a very effective tactic..:D

sportfreak2020 2010-03-09 14:51

Re: play music when in call or use camera when in call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by di1in (Post 561132)
playing romantic music while wooing girls on the phone had been a very effective tactic..:D

dat was my exact intention..not only that the camera thing..

aw cmon..there gotta be some way of getting this **** done..i wish i was more into programmin :mad:

aman18narang 2010-03-09 19:33

Re: play music when in call or use camera when in call
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by di1in (Post 561132)
So does that mean that there is absolutely no way to get that feature ontot he n900 ?

playing romantic music while wooing girls on the phone had been a very effective tactic..:D

i used to do this on my E71..cant do so on n900..sadly my late night calls to my girlfriend have stopped being fun now..i have spend double the amount n my girl isnt impressed!! :(


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