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Magick_man 2010-02-10 02:39

More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Ok, I just had to be the first to say this:

It is more than possible to run a xbox 360 (or even ps3) emulator on an N900.

However there are a few small catches which should be obvious

Without further intro the "how to" simply put in 4 steps:

1. Add a 360 or ps3 emulator to a pc

2. add the vnCviewer program, and run it. You will be able to acces the computer

3. Use the ps3 controller hack on these forums, run it also

4. access you emulator.

I know, my intro was kinda misleading but still.

wakkamis 2010-02-10 02:47

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
And your frame rates may be just as bad as if you were running them straight from the n900. But you do have a point. It can be done!


Sorta.

I can also run Windows 7 and play world of warcraft through rdesktop.:D

gtessier00 2010-02-10 02:59

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
I don't understand the point?
It's like watching a NASCAR race on tv, and saying you're driving the actual car! Your point is good, I'm not bashing you, but when using VNC I can't even play Diablo 2 because the framerate is too bad and it's laggy as hell!!!
Would be nice though :P

oscillik 2010-02-10 03:01

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
this is not "xbox 360 running on your n900" at all
it is exactly the same as running a video of Crysis with highest settings on the n900 and claiming i'm running Crysis on my phone lols

El Amir 2010-02-10 03:06

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
someone's got to change the title! :mad:

VERY misleading! (not that I believed it one second ;))

DarkPand0r 2010-02-10 03:08

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by El Amir (Post 518750)
someone's got to change the title! :mad:

VERY misleading! (not that I believed it one second ;))

No Its Not........

Also, I doubt the FPS would be more than 1 at any given time....

El Amir 2010-02-10 03:13

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPand0r (Post 518751)
No Its Not........

Also, I doubt the FPS would be more than 1 at any given time....

That's for sure but still, I believe the title should be worded otherwise.
Just my 2c.

mcdull 2010-02-10 03:35

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
That's exactly what PSP and Sony Ericsson's Aino doing with Remote Play on PS3
And also Spawn Lab's HD-720
So, it's doable but you can't use VNC for that, it has to be something more optimized for this purpose

mcdull 2010-02-10 03:40

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Not XBox360 on N900, but more likely PS3 on N900 if someone will port the Open Remote Play from PC to N900.
Is the Linux version working yet?

Crogge 2010-02-10 04:04

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
The N900 is able to run PSX / N64 / (PSP) Emulators but that's the limit. It is not possible to emulate a faster console with a decent speed on the N900.

mcdull 2010-02-10 04:18

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crogge (Post 518790)
The N900 is able to run PSX / N64 / (PSP) Emulators but that's the limit. It is not possible to emulate a faster console with a decent speed on the N900.

I doubt N900 can run PSP emulator at any decent speed.
What OP describes is not really emulating anything though.

Thesandlord 2010-02-10 04:48

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
To the OP, this would NEVER EVER EVER work.

1) There is no 360 or PS3 emu for PC
2) You cannot send a gamepad through VNC, only mouse and keyboard
4) VNC won't capture the OpenGL or DirectX protocol, you need a special game streaming software.
3) It will look like ****

I have tried to play Nintendo DS games like this on my n810. The lag was horrible. I managed to get through one level of Kirby canvas curse before giving up.

You probably want something like this:
http://www.streammygame.com/smg/index.php

its made just for this. However there is no ARM linux client... yet?

forcer 2010-02-10 07:58

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
not to mention that ps3 and xbox360 are still too powerful to be emulated on pc and it lacks whole point of being able to "play" games on n900..

ysss 2010-02-10 08:15

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
There is a black button on the top right of the device that is pretty magical. If you click it, it will open a portal of some sort to view the N900's rendition of the world! Check out the poly count on that!!!

codeMonkey 2010-02-10 09:27

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Watch BluRay movies ON YOUR N900!!1
Simply buy a bluray player for your tv. Open your N900 camera, and point it at the tv!
I know, my intro was kinda misleading but still.
[/sarcasm]

unkno 2010-02-10 09:55

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
I'll be happy if there's such a thing as an Xbox360 or PS3 emulator...yet alone be able to run them on a PC. Let's not even consider the N900.

johnel 2010-02-10 09:59

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
I'm trying to think of something witty but I can't - I will just come out and say it.

This is a stupid, stupid thread!

basketcase_2004 2010-02-10 10:59

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnel (Post 519093)
I'm trying to think of something witty but I can't - I will just come out and say it.

This is a stupid, stupid thread!


I wouldnt say its stupid like, indeed you would need some crazy crazy set-up goin on.
you would firstly need an awsome tvcard to plug either the ps3 or 360 into it. which exists! so your games are cuming up on your monitor. you would then need some way of controling the game through some sort of game controller emulator on your pc. you would then need to figure out a way of forcing the resolution of the game to lower itself so the n900 doesnt have to pull as much data from your network connection so the lag is minimal.

when i had my n810 i did this running gta1 on dosbox on my pc thru my n810 over a 3g connection 150 miles away from my computer. it sucked like. but the it worked!

Brank 2010-02-10 11:14

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Is it possible to add the refresh rate of rdesktop? Or is it running at maximums rate of the n900 already?

I'm hoping it's currently limited due to bandwith, so when using 3g it's slow refreshrate but when on wifi it could potentially transfer more frames?

2disbetter 2010-02-10 11:30

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by forcer (Post 518936)
not to mention that ps3 and xbox360 are still too powerful to be emulated on pc and it lacks whole point of being able to "play" games on n900..

This is incorrect. Consoles are actually underpowered compared to modern day computers. The Xbox 360 is nothing more than a standard CPU that is now 4+ years old.

The problem is not that power of Computer hardware, but rather software has not been created to run games on a traditional x86 processor.

The video card in my computer, blows away anything in any current console right now.

Let's stop confusing the problem here.

Also as has been pointed out already vnc software cannot capture the frames on opengl or directx interfaces fast enough to even work. As a matter of fact directx fails to initialize when using vnc on my comp. This aside, any connection outside of being on a LAN connection is not going to have the bandwidth to even make this happen. So while in theory this could work on a windowed app, you still need to find software to emulate. I believe a bluetoothed controller could work as long as you have the controls mapped to the keyboard.

2d

mcdull 2010-02-10 11:39

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by basketcase_2004 (Post 519174)
I wouldnt say its stupid like, indeed you would need some crazy crazy set-up goin on.
you would firstly need an awsome tvcard to plug either the ps3 or 360 into it. which exists! so your games are cuming up on your monitor. you would then need some way of controling the game through some sort of game controller emulator on your pc. you would then need to figure out a way of forcing the resolution of the game to lower itself so the n900 doesnt have to pull as much data from your network connection so the lag is minimal.

when i had my n810 i did this running gta1 on dosbox on my pc thru my n810 over a 3g connection 150 miles away from my computer. it sucked like. but the it worked!

Emulation is not possible, but Remote Play is definitely possible which is working on PSP with PS3 and even Sony Ericsson Aino can do it.
And there is already client for Windows and OSX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3MAjok7gDs

Hariainm 2010-02-10 16:03

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crogge (Post 518790)
The N900 is able to run PSX / N64 / (PSP) Emulators but that's the limit. It is not possible to emulate a faster console with a decent speed on the N900.

Well, i don't think so. Watch this Dreamcast emulator for OpenPandora:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gYfwtj7Mok

Itīs the same hardware, and the port it's no NEON coprocessor optified. Too slow, and may be never framerate-playable, but...

nibbles 2010-02-10 16:15

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Look what else your N900 can do.

Get better than Google Earth on your N900,
Open your magic glass screen thing at the back and point at the earth, far higher resolution than google's one

Did you also know you can use your N900 to go to a beatles concert or as many concerts you want for free, get an MP3 and out it on your N900 and close your eyes and there you are , the same as a free concert ticket.

Also check out the ability for you to say something in London and for it to be magically transported to New York in near real-time, open this thing called a Phone app and dial a number from New York , then speak into the phone when you hear someone, and as if my magic your voice is being transported 3000 miles as if it's really loud or something.

Not sure on this one but apparently you can also catch peoples soul's using this wizardly called a Cam-era, not sure about that one though.

UNderworld 2010-02-10 16:17

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by codeMonkey (Post 519045)
Watch BluRay movies ON YOUR N900!!1
Simply buy a bluray player for your tv. Open your N900 camera, and point it at the tv!
I know, my intro was kinda misleading but still.
[/sarcasm]

It took me 3 times to understand that... followed by a big LOOLLLLLLLL
even this is misleading

Ahmed360 2010-02-10 18:06

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS3/Xbox360 emulation in NOT possible on nowadays PCs (even the TOP TOP TOP specs pc)

Heck....even PS2 emulator (PCSX2) is not 100% fully playable (for that you need a very powerful PC - require C2D-@3GHz to get nice fps)

Just so you know...it has been proved that if you want to EMULATE a console (not port a game duuuuh)

You need at least a PC 10xtimes as powerful as the console itself
For example PS2 runs @300MHz --> Thats why a minimun 3000MHz cpu is needed....(Google it if you dont believe me!!!)

Xbox360: triple-core IBM @3.2GHz designed Xenon as its CPU, with each core capable of simultaneously processing two threads, and can therefore operate on up to six threads at once.

PS3: IBM-designed Cell microprocessor as its CPU, which is made up of one 3.2 GHz PowerPC-based "Power Processing Element" (PPE) and eight Synergistic Processing Elements (SPEs). The eighth SPE is disabled to improve chip yields. Only six of the seven SPEs are accessible to developers as the seventh SPE is reserved by the console's operating system.

NOT TO MENTION THE GPUs!!!

You do the calculation and tell me if its possible to emulate any of these beasts with nowadays PCs

Not to forget a good/well-programmed emulator

Anyway....

mcdull 2010-02-10 18:14

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hariainm (Post 519627)
Well, i don't think so. Watch this Dreamcast emulator for OpenPandora:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gYfwtj7Mok

Itīs the same hardware, and the port it's no NEON coprocessor optified. Too slow, and may be never framerate-playable, but...

PSX and N64 should be doable,
N64 emulator worked perfectly fine on my overlcocked 300/450Mhz Celeron 8 years ago, and PSX emulator worked on my 600Mhz PC.
Dreamcast is in the league of PS2, so it won't work without fast processor and optimization. PSP is about the same as PS2 too.

Lazarpandar 2010-02-10 18:25

Re: More than possible: xbox 360 on your N900
 
You did't break any ground here, everybody already knows about VNC and the ps3 controller hack. The only reason nobody made this post before is because they knew performance would be beyond unusable, I don't know why youi didn't come to this conclusion yourself.

Gaming over VNC is never a good idea, making misleading topics is never a good idea.


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