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white_ranger 2010-02-10 22:02

A little help in Media Player...?
 
I have two questions:
1) How do you create an album? Or edit one? I have recently transfered about 300 songs (don't ask me why) and now EVERY song has it's own album. It's kinda annoying. I can always make it show only songs instead of albums, but it looks better with albums.
2) Media Player didn't update correctly. Is there some option to update it manually? As i already said, i transfered over 300 songs, and when i enter media player, under "songs" it says i have 209 songs. I tried restarting the phone, but it didn't solve it.
Please help!!!

slender 2010-02-10 22:08

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Try to reset tracker from x terminal wit h command
tracker-processes -r

And question 1 I do not understand.

.edit
Did you randomly choose 300 songs or are those full albums.

Rob1n 2010-02-10 22:20

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by white_ranger (Post 520228)
I have two questions:
1) How do you create an album? Or edit one? I have recently transfered about 300 songs (don't ask me why) and now EVERY

The album & artist information is picked up from the tags on the files. If your files are not properly tagged then you won't get any organisation on the N900. You can either use a tagger on your desktop (e.g. mp3tag) or install and use Mussorgsky on the N900. The desktop one will probably be better for mass updates though.

white_ranger 2010-02-10 22:20

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
I'll give you some more informations. The songs are from Benny Benassi. Most of them. Others are from David Guetta, Felix da Housecat, ... But that's not important. What i want to do is e.g. make an album for Benny Benassi's songs, Felix's songs, ... But i have an album for every single song. I mean when i enter some album, there is only one song inside. Can you help me with this question? And thanks for the question 2. That solved it.

white_ranger 2010-02-10 22:21

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Where can i download Mussorgsky?

Rob1n 2010-02-10 22:22

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by white_ranger (Post 520261)
I'll give you some more informations. The songs are from Benny Benassi. Most of them. Others are from David Guetta, Felix da Housecat, ... But that's not important. What i want to do is e.g. make an album for Benny Benassi's songs, Felix's songs, ... But i have an album for every single song. I mean when i enter some album, there is only one song inside. Can you help me with this question? And thanks for the question 2. That solved it.

Do you want the original albums (where the songs came from) or do you mean you want to create per-artist playlists?

Rob1n 2010-02-10 22:23

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Originally Posted by white_ranger (Post 520263)
Where can i download Mussorgsky?

I think that's still in extras-devel (see http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel) unfortunately.

white_ranger 2010-02-10 22:25

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 520264)
Do you want the original albums (where the songs came from) or do you mean you want to create per-artist playlists?

I want to create per-artist ALBUM. I can't stand watching those 300 albums...

Thor 2010-02-10 22:26

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You can edit it directly from your computer once you plug in your N900 in Mass Storage mode. Get something like mp3tag and with each Benny Benassi song (select them all), under album, give them all the same name, and you'll have your satisfaction.

Seriously though, what you want to do is filter by artist rather than by album anyway. As long as the artist field has the correct name (and not Benny Benassi feat. David Guetta etc).

The media player groups everything by album name (for album search), genre, artist and so on.

For example, I have around 800 songs with the genre "Dance" over 30 albums and 350 artists. 400 songs over 21 albums and 84 artists for the genre Hip-Hop and so on.

white_ranger 2010-02-10 22:30

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thor (Post 520269)
You can edit it directly from your computer. Get something like mp3tag and with each Benny Benassi song, under album, give them all the same name, and you'll have your satisfaction.

Seriously though, what you want to do is filter by artist rather than by album anyway. As long as the artist field has the correct name (and not Benny Benassi feat. David Guetta etc).

The media player groups everything by album name (for album search), genre, artist and so on.

For example, I have around 800 songs with the genre "Dance" over 30 albums and 350 artists. 400 songs over 21 albums and 84 artists for the genre Hip-Hop and so on.

Thanks, but it's not an easy job to change the album name of the 300 songs. Is there an easier way?

slender 2010-02-10 22:31

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But you can choose from top menu artists -> select preferred artist (btw you can make search in media player by just typing words) -> it shows many albums but you can hit suffle songs and it plays/adds all the songs from selected artist to playlist.

slender 2010-02-10 22:34

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by white_ranger (Post 520273)
Thanks, but it's not an easy job to change the album name of the 300 songs. Is there an easier way?

Actually it is :| Its easy as couple of clicks. For example something like this:
- import all songs to e.g. mp3tag
- sort all songs by artist column
- Select all songs from on artist (select first and select last with shift clicked down)
- Now you can edit whole groups album
BUT remember to take backups from your orginal music files if you start messing around with tags.

Thor 2010-02-10 22:35

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by white_ranger (Post 520273)
Thanks, but it's not an easy job to change the album name of the 300 songs. Is there an easier way?

Yes it is, move them all into an album on your N900 with drag and drop with a mouse when in Mass Storage mode. Then drag that folder into mp3tag and press <ctrl> + <a> to select all songs, and on the album tag, put in whatever you like.

I've done this before. I have a folder called "loose songs" for all those singles and songs that I have on there but not the whole album. The only annoing thing is that any picture (album cover) attached to the song will follow it around everywhere.

Thor 2010-02-10 22:37

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The other thing is that it looks like you want to look at albums so if I were you, I'd just use the artist view instead of album view, it'll be a lot easier.

white_ranger 2010-02-10 22:37

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 520275)
But you can choose from top menu artists -> select preferred artist (btw you can make search in media player by just typing words) -> it shows many albums but you can hit suffle songs and it plays/adds all the songs from selected artist to playlist.

This doesn't work very well. It shows me Benny Benassi, benny benassi, Benny benassi as different artists.

Thor 2010-02-10 22:39

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Originally Posted by white_ranger (Post 520289)
This doesn't work very well. It shows me Benny Benassi, benny benassi, Benny benassi as different artists.

That's because the artist has to have the same spacing and spelling. It's just the way tags work on ANY device, ipods etc. Just use mp3tag and edit the artist so that all Benny Benassi songs have the same artist spelt the same way. I would do that rather than the album name, as you can keep albums together as well as different album arts.

Also, mp3tag is a free program, so use it. It's one I got and found it very simple to use.

slender 2010-02-10 22:39

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by white_ranger (Post 520289)
This doesn't work very well. It shows me Benny Benassi, benny benassi, Benny benassi as different artists.

Ok. Maybe you should also do some tag cleaning on your computer. What is the point having same artist with different names?

YES I agree that this could be taken care by maybe little bit of coding from Nokia, but on the another hand i think that you should also clean up your tags.

Thor 2010-02-10 22:41

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 520295)
Ok. Maybe you should also do some tag cleaning on your computer. What is the point having same artist with different names?

YES I agree that this could be taken care by maybe little bit of coding from Nokia, but on the another hand i think that you should also clean up your tags.

This is nothing to do with Nokia and all to do with cleaning up tags. All mp3 players will display it the same as they assume that any deviation is another artist. Analysing the tags to see similarities will just slow the media player and tracker down.

slender 2010-02-10 22:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thor (Post 520297)
This is nothing to do with Nokia and all to do with cleaning up tags. All mp3 players will display it the same as they assume that any deviation is another artist. Analysing the tags to see similarities will just slow the media player and tracker down.

I would be really really careful with that kind of statements. You might get crucified sooner or later :P

Thor 2010-02-10 22:49

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And get back on here and let us know if it worked :)
I spent a long time sorting out and tagging my albums with correct tags and album art :)

Thor 2010-02-10 22:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 520311)
I would be really really careful with that kind of statements. You might get crucified sooner or later :P

Well it seems logical, but I can rephrase it all mp3 players I have used have this behaviour, eg. Nokia phones, Blackberry phones, Sony Ericsson phones and Cowon Media Players.

Are there any that waste time trying to find spelling mistakes?

white_ranger 2010-02-10 23:19

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Thanks a lot guys. You solved my problem. I'm starting to love Mp3tag. :D

Thor 2010-02-10 23:48

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by white_ranger (Post 520353)
Thanks a lot guys. You solved my problem. I'm starting to love Mp3tag. :D

It's a great program, isn't it ? It can even get album art for you.
For that I set the settings so that it saves the cover into the same folder as the song as cover.jpg so that the N900 will pick it up when refreshing media.

crasbelize 2010-03-12 03:48

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thor (Post 520386)

For that I set the settings so that it saves the cover into the same folder as the song as cover.jpg so that the N900 will pick it up when refreshing media.

OK need some help.

I use Windows Media Player for my mp3, and I have all my album art loaded on Window Media Player....

My problem is when I sync all my albums to the N900 media player.....I am missing some of my album art.

I think it's because of the resolutions on Windows Media Player...some are 500 X 500, some are 200 x 200.

QUESTION: what is the correct resolution for the n900 media player?

Thanks.

m1cke 2010-03-12 09:17

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resolution should not be the problem but it might be that you have some .png that I belive N900 doesnt support.

Get Mp3tag it is great. simple to fix tags and albumart.
It really is a great feeling when all tags are perfect. I have ripped all my CD's and got tags and albumart just perfect on 1400 albums took some time but it is worth the job!

Neegs 2010-03-12 16:35

Re: A little help in Media Player...?
 
i am definately going to try mp3tag. the music player on teh n900 is fine if your music is properly organised. otherwise it can be a bit crazy to say the least


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