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mrebanza 2010-02-12 19:12

N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???

or another alternative ????

Hotshot 2010-02-12 19:13

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
I wish it was brother :(

Texrat 2010-02-12 19:16

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Surely someone can port something... ;)

b666m 2010-02-12 19:19

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
*desperately waiting* ^^

fatalsaint 2010-02-12 19:21

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 523559)
Surely someone can port something... ;)

I wonder if Sylpheed is possible...

Tho I wouldn't imagine it being "finger" friendly at all...

If someone wanted to take the time, being a GTK+ app, they might be able to hildonize it..

ETA: claws mail was already ported to 2008... so someone just needs to bring it up to fremantle..

vitb 2010-02-12 19:24

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
There is claws-mail port in extras-devel. not hildonized but quite usable even as is.

sadfist 2010-02-12 19:33

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
A Claws port is up in extras-devel, Lucas Maneos is the maintainer. I've messed with it a little, seems functional. Could use a lot of work to make it more finger friendly for at least common day to day emailing tasks. Claws Mail would be feature complete enough for more people I would imagine.

There isn't much info I can find on it online so I'm not sure how far he intends to take the project or if he would be interested in some help. If you've got the skills/time to contribute and are interested I'd get in touch with him.

vitb 2010-02-12 19:36

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Lucas is not going to get any far than claws is now. I am thinking on hildonizing it a bit but it won't happen instantly.

soeiro 2010-02-12 19:50

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
I don't think that it is quite a joke. it just seems to be somewhat lacking in features. It is a matter of just taking a look in mail clients of other phones and implementing at least the basic features. Then, take all the brainstorms and "wontfix" and "moved" filed bugs and take a look at them.

On the other hand, maybe it is so complex that anohter email client would be really the choice. I wonder if Thunderbird is to heavy to run on Nokia N900, though.

mrebanza 2010-02-12 20:00

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soeiro (Post 523626)
I don't think that it is quite a joke. it just seems to be somewhat lacking in features. It is a matter of just taking a look in mail clients of other phones and implementing at least the basic features. Then, take all the brainstorms and "wontfix" and "moved" filed bugs and take a look at them.

On the other hand, maybe it is so complex that anohter email client would be really the choice. I wonder if Thunderbird is to heavy to run on Nokia N900, though.

Idk . . . with Gmail it is pretty much unusable . . . It take like 30 minutes to update and receive my new emails???

And doesn't even let me read the one's that were previously downloaded?????

Is it not putting them in a cache???

Can I not read emails even when the phone doesn't have signal??

Crashdamage 2010-02-12 20:10

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Thunderbird? Sylpheed-Claws? Uhhhh...not finger-friendly, would really need a UI overhaul for a 3.5" screen. Thunderbird would be pretty resource-intensive anyway.

Modest is working pretty well for me, better than Android email clients ever did. But I am thinking of trying to get Mutt working on my N900. Now THAT would be cool! Lean, mean and fast!

fatalsaint 2010-02-12 20:12

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 523668)
Thunderbird? Sylpheed-Claws? Uhhhh...not finger-friendly, would really need a UI overhaul for a 3.5" screen. Thunderbird would be pretty resource-intensive anyway.

Modest is working pretty well for me, better than Android email clients ever did. But I am thinking of trying to get Mutt working on my N900. Now THAT would be cool! Lean, mean and fast!

OK.. I can't help it...

Did you really just complain on "Finger Friendly" and then switch to Mutt in the same post?? :D

Awesome. ;)

mrebanza 2010-02-12 20:12

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Modest ???

Is that an email client for Maemo????

Where can i download it????

Crashdamage 2010-02-12 20:14

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 523674)
OK.. I can't help it...

Did you really just complain on "Finger Friendly" and then switch to Mutt in the same post?? :D

Awesome. ;)

Mutt doesn't need to be finger-friendly. Only the keyboard.

fatalsaint 2010-02-12 20:15

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrebanza (Post 523678)
Modest ???

Is that an email client for Maemo????

Where can i download it????

Modest is the email client for N900.

The one this thread was initially about.

mrebanza 2010-02-12 20:16

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 523684)
Mutt doesn't need to be finger-friendly. Only the keyboard.

Ohhh @Crashdamage are you using Gmail???

Crashdamage 2010-02-12 20:21

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrebanza (Post 523693)
Ohhh @Crashdamage are you using Gmail???

I have a Gmail account but never use it and never will. Not with Mutt or anything else.

No sure what you're after here...I'm kinda thick sometimes...

fatalsaint 2010-02-12 20:23

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 523712)
I have a Gmail account but never use it and never will. Not with Mutt or anything else.

No sure what you're after here...I'm kinda thick sometimes...

mrebranza was saying that the Modest integration with Gmail is lackluster or poor...

Thus when you said it worked fine - he was asking if you used Gmail...

Crashdamage 2010-02-12 20:28

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fatalsaint (Post 523717)
mrebranza was saying that the Modest integration with Gmail is lackluster or poor...

Thus when you said it worked fine - he was asking if you used Gmail...

Doh!

Ehhh...don't care. If I ever did use it I'd just access it in a browser anyway. But I don't trust Google and I don't like Gmail.

quipper8 2010-02-12 20:36

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
apprently this guy compiled TB for n810.

http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/...bird-on-maemo/

meep 2010-02-12 20:56

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
gmail.com works fairly well in a browser :)

I've also used evolution in LXDE which was surprisingly usable!

Rob1n 2010-02-12 21:02

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 523668)
But I am thinking of trying to get Mutt working on my N900. Now THAT would be cool! Lean, mean and fast!

Mutt works pretty well on the N900, yes - I've got it compiled with IMAP support. I keep meaning to look into packaging it properly.

Crashdamage 2010-02-12 21:14

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 523791)
Mutt works pretty well on the N900, yes - I've got it compiled with IMAP support. I keep meaning to look into packaging it properly.

Ya really ought to do it...Mutt's the best email client ever.

lma 2010-02-13 01:24

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sadfist (Post 523590)
A Claws port is up in extras-devel, Lucas Maneos is the maintainer.

Not since 3.7.3-1maemo2 actually, I just packaged it to scratch my itch but I can't do much with it codewise. Since then borealid took over (and added gpg support), he just forgot to update the Maintainer: field. There's currently a maemo-optify bug that seems to block development, but hopefully it will pick up soon.

BTW, vitb suggested a garage project to collect patches, hildonise it etc which I think is a great idea (as the upstream project isn't interested).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crashdamage (Post 523668)
But I am thinking of trying to get Mutt working on my N900. Now THAT would be cool!

Mutt sucks less, of course :-)

I think I'm leaning towards a combination of mutt + offlineimap personally (might as well use all that storage for something). Jebba's repository might also have some other interesting stuff.

Guber99 2010-02-13 01:33

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrebanza (Post 523552)
N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???

or another alternative ????

Big joke.more like an embarrasment

mrebanza 2010-02-13 01:43

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by quipper8 (Post 523744)
apprently this guy compiled TB for n810.

http://blog.mozilla.com/dolske/2008/...bird-on-maemo/

http://people.mozilla.com/~dolske/bl...o-shredder.png
HOW can I get this to work on the N900????????

mrebanza 2010-02-13 01:45

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
how hard is it to play with the UI on a linux App???

IWantToMarryTheN900 2010-02-13 01:49

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Maybe I'm lucky - I don't know - but I use Gmail through Nokia Messaging and my emails are instantly pushed to my n900.

It works WAY faster than setting up gmail itself in Modest.

Modest's biggest problem, to me, is not being able to search my emails. Aside from that, it works really well for me. It's way faster than my Blackberry Curve's email client ever was.

lcuk 2010-02-13 01:55

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
mrebanza,
most of the time more difficult than using visual studio.

you will have to look at thunderbird site and try reading the developer guidelines there first to see what they suggest.
if you can strip it down to its bare essentials it could be very workable.

best of luck, keep us posted and send us a mail when its done ;)


*hang on, just zoomed on pic, its already on 8x0? wheres the code hanging out i wonder it should be more straight forward than i thought.

bret hart 2010-02-13 02:20

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Email_Opt...0_Email_Client


IMAP Idle for Push Email

Many modern mail servers support the IMAP Idle feature, which allows your email client to monitor an inbox. Sadly Modest on the N900 has this feature disabled for power reasons.



Can this be changed somehow?

mrebanza 2010-02-13 09:28

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lcuk (Post 524149)
mrebanza,
most of the time more difficult than using visual studio.

you will have to look at thunderbird site and try reading the developer guidelines there first to see what they suggest.
if you can strip it down to its bare essentials it could be very workable.

best of luck, keep us posted and send us a mail when its done ;)

Never used Visual Studio - I write web apps mostly CSS and XHTML for design and PHP for the rest . . . . I know firefox THEMES on the desktop are CSS based by I am not too sure about Thunderbird . . . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by lcuk (Post 524149)
*hang on, just zoomed on pic, its already on 8x0? wheres the code hanging out i wonder it should be more straight forward than i thought.

I know it is freaking running on the N810 all we would have to do is make the buttons a little bigger!!!!


Cant find the source for it though :confused:

mrebanza 2010-02-13 09:29

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IWantToMarryTheN900 (Post 524146)
Maybe I'm lucky - I don't know - but I use Gmail through Nokia Messaging and my emails are instantly pushed to my n900.

It works WAY faster than setting up gmail itself in Modest.

Modest's biggest problem, to me, is not being able to search my emails. Aside from that, it works really well for me. It's way faster than my Blackberry Curve's email client ever was.


What do you mean through "Nokia Messaging" ?

You mean G-Talk in the conversations APP???

mrebanza 2010-02-13 09:33

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bret hart (Post 524167)
http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Email_Opt...0_Email_Client


IMAP Idle for Push Email

Many modern mail servers support the IMAP Idle feature, which allows your email client to monitor an inbox. Sadly Modest on the N900 has this feature disabled for power reasons.



Can this be changed somehow?

Why the f%&K is it not catching the mail though????

This is so crazy!?!?!?!

If their was a better phone on the market .... I swear I would return the N900.... but what am I going to buy after THIS????


Even the Nexus One is going to seem very lame after this:rolleyes:

Davey101 2010-02-13 14:43

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
The email program (Modest) is fine for me with Gmail. Like many others, I decided to pay $25 for a year's subscription with Nuevasync in order to get push Gmail with contacts, calendar and tasks (Toodledo not Google) and it's working well. :)

MfE does not seem to be a major power drain and I have no speed issues, but then I only keep 20-50 messages in the inbox. To find any messages that have been moved out of the inbox I use search in the web browser.

I did try Nokia Messaging in combination with Neuvasync's free service but I wasn't that happy with the configuration options for Nokia Messaging.

quipper8 2010-02-13 14:56

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
i bet it would be pretty easy to get icedove from etch compiled for n900. User jebbacompiled eveythinng that would automatically from deb source packages for this target. Looking at build log for icedove, it looked like it was just missing depends gnome2-dev

maybe beg jebba :)

77h 2010-02-13 15:08

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrebanza (Post 524444)
What do you mean through "Nokia Messaging" ?

You mean G-Talk in the conversations APP???

http://email.nokia.com/account/home.action
nokia messaging is a service from nokia which in most countries is free if you use a dataplan. for me it works very well. i get my gmail pushed

Mateus 2010-02-13 22:56

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
I am testing claws-mail now. Seems to be ok

fatalsaint 2010-02-14 22:39

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
I got sylpheed to compile and run. It's unusable though.. everything goes off the screen, some prompt boxes don't have an OK box.

I was able to configure my gmail.. but as soon as it prompted me for a password I couldn't continue because pressing enter didn't input it.. and clicking outside of it just made it prompt for password again.

SOOO.. sylpheed without serious UI work is out.

skylinux 2010-02-23 13:38

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
I just found this thread because I can't rely on the built in N900 e-mail client and I am looking for an alternative. The IMAP support and a few other missing settings are a major show stopper, very disappointing.

So has anyone on this thread tried to compile Thunderbird yet? What happened?
What about mutt, I have not use a cmd e-mail client in years but I will switch back if that what it takes to get something decent.

fatalsaint 2010-02-23 14:51

Re: N900's Email is a Joke - Thunderbird on the N900???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skylinux (Post 542626)
I just found this thread because I can't rely on the built in N900 e-mail client and I am looking for an alternative. The IMAP support and a few other missing settings are a major show stopper, very disappointing.

So has anyone on this thread tried to compile Thunderbird yet? What happened?
What about mutt, I have not use a cmd e-mail client in years but I will switch back if that what it takes to get something decent.

Have you tried Claws in extras devel yet?


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