Returning my N900
 

Hi all, I am about to cancel my contract with vodafone and return my N900 .. I got it last Friday and I have 7 days to return... I am calling them tomorrow to see if I can have the HD2 instead... and return this one....

Its the last day tomorrow, if they wont take it back, I will sell it and get the nexus one.... :cool:

There's much more apps for android than maemo.... and much better support on the xda forum for the HD2....

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Good for you.
What don't you like about the N900? What doesn't it do that you were expecting it to do?

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Nice knowing you. ;)

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Bye! Stay with the force :D

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Its lagging since this afternoon... lack of profiles ( general, silent, outdoor, meeting) like the previous nokias... i dont see the point of open source - maybe because I Dont understand and use linux.... i have to use it all the time in landscape... I have to charge the battery twice a day.... Its a long process to call someone, due to lack of call key... the media player stopped responding earlier on.... and lot more...

theres also a lot of things i like, but there seems to be no solution for the existing ones...

I'm used to registry tweaks, customised ROMS...

DISCLAIMER: I am not starting another rant on here... I gave a reply to what I dont like abt the phone.. ........

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This happens when you don't know what you are buying.

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this seems to be the common answer to people who report shortcomings of N900: you dont know what you are buying........lol. people are buying what is advertised and in this day and age of well polished devices who would expect such basic shortcomings?

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who would buy it if they knew what it is??

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I would and did.

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honestly, i did not that this os was so half baked. i have ranted here many times on various issues BUT this device is still the best in its class. combine it with an open source os, wow!

Iphone/nexus/... work very well for folks who want stuff handed in a platter for a hyped gadget. this n900 if poperly used has tremendous capabilty unlike ANY phone out there.

i would buy this phone all over again .... that's just my stupid opinion.

glad you realized what you want, good luck on yor search for your phone mate.

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I bought it for what it is, love the device. Its a solid piece of work with a good future for it.

My admin duties are easier with it, I knew what the platform had to offer.

If you just want a phone and just a little bit more, then there are other places to check. You want a linux toolkit in your pocket, sign up and get one :)

And just a thought for the ranters, patients and time fixes most things with these devices especially in open source ... the company fails to pick up the ball someone else will and sometimes produces a real gem of an app in the process. Have faith in the community, thats part of what you get with the N900.

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Do you buy a car only because of the ad? No!

Do you buy a condom because of the ad? No!

Do you buy a mobile because of the ad? Maybe, but you shouldn't...

Do you buy something else because of the ad? Maybe, but you shouldn't...

If you are buying a mobile...what are the keyfunctions you look for? Next time look for battery consumption, app-status...and the open source thing...two seconds of google helps...and andoird (Nexus One) is in some parts opensource too...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source

But on the other side, your are right, this device don't fit your needs, but you know why, because you didn't inform yourself about what you are bought...

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you know....this amazes me...
for months before the n900 became commercial at least 300 bloggers were given the device to test....
youre trying to tell me not one blog you read? you just saw it advertised and thought "that suits me"....without even reading about it? then complain about it....i am 100% sure that if its 1 thing to be known about the N900 is its predominant landscape attribute....if this was a "no no" for you....why did u even buy it? maybe READING has become to much of a task.....or maybe theres an app for that?

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I have said agian and i will repeat that I am fully satisfied with the N900 and I hope I do not get another "go sell it" reply, but I fully understand those who are not.
I am satisfied because I wanted a tablet and it does that job very well. I am satisfied because I wanted a mobile computer and big screen resolution so I would work on the device near-like on my netbook (same resolution believe it or not)
I am satisfied because I wanted resistive touchscreen because I can't have finegrained control without a stylus.
I am satisfied with the built in media player but I am disappointed with the lack of a spreadsheet app (my mostly used app on my previous WM device)
I am really satisfied with the stability, and I am ok with the battery life (could be better though)

I said that i understand those who are not satisfied because I do not feel that someone has to read a whole forum to know what a phone does and does not. I never use mms but someone who does (here in greece they are a good replacement for sms cause they cost the same in some operators and there is no 160 char limit) expects them to be there (almost every color-screen nokia since 2005 has them. It's pretty darn standard)
The lack of portrait mode makes the device almost impossible to use with one hand - and it's not something you can even find in the spec sheet.
The lack of support for reduced character set in sms is a no-go for me concerning a phone. And that's the reason I stick with nokia. It was the only phone manufacturer with a standard policy about greek input on a phone.
There are things missing on this device(i don't call it a phone) that are standard for years on nokia phones and that you can't find on the specs maybe even not on the reviews so stop crying at people for not knowing what they bought. Did all of you check if the drivers seat is reclinable? I bet you didn't.
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Sexpopcy cam

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Wait. There's a lack of profiles (general, silent, et al)??

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Please see the thread, "Only two profiles: General & Silent? How to create more?"

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qwazix - Gnumeric can be installed, some command line stuff but works :)

I researched alot of the pages out on the N900, having been an old Zaurus user and numerous other device I am pretty sure what I wanted.

Had to check and even changed carriers to get the 3G support, AT&T only offers G/E support for the phone side of the device.

Would suggest if a person wants a Nokia, but not maemo, the N97 is out there too. But any hows, buyer beware.

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i dont give a damn F about the reviewers because they dont have the same views as me... they dont know what I need in a phone.... 10 different reviewers can have 10 separate views, just like I have my own view..

its MY device, I have to test it.

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I dont google and look for every single thing I need in a phone...
I wont google to find out if I can change profiles in the N900, I wont google to see if it has stable internet connections, I wont google for every single bit of information...

did U see in a review that u cannot change profiles? is there any review which states the problems in the N900?? MFE issues?

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haha u asked for it mate :D

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Must be nice to have so much money you can drop that much on a device without finding out first whether it will do what you want or you want what it will do. Say, I have this lovely fondue maker that I can sell you...

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Honestly, you guys. I have read a bunchload of reviews, most that praised the device and the rest simply not getting it. Not a one of them seemed to have had the phone long enough to to notice the things that will bother an owner over time.

I read all I came over and I come from the 'probably will not get the phone features perfect in the first device' camp with experience from the N810. And I love the device.

But saying things like 'that what happens when you buy something you don't know what is' is just dumb. I have read more about the N900 than I read about the car I just bought. And in no review did I see that the microUSB was non-standard and moody. I read thousands of lines but did not expect how few maemo 4 appliations was/would be any time soon released for Maemo 5. Neither my experience with Linux nor anything I have read had prepared me for such incompatibility. And nowhere did it say that it wasn't possible with custom ring tones per contact. For me, that's like buying a car and finding out you can't open the rear side windows. It's just so basic functionality that you can't be expected to google for it.

The N900 is an excellent device in oh so many ways. As a phone, it is not. And not any reviews I have read has said it was a bad phone. Only that it's not an advanced smart phone. Without stating what that means. So please.

The N900 is being advertised to the mass market as a phone and more. If you hate that people buy it and expect a polished phone, then you should hate the marketing of it. Not the people who believe what they are told.

Stop attacking people for wanting a phone when they buy what they truely have no reason not to believe is a phone. There is no review or ad out there saying 'a mobile computer with some basic phone functionality'. It does say 'a phone. a mobile computer'.

Nokia marketed it too broadly because the N97 got torn asunder all over the web. Nokia made people buy this product. Stop hating people for buying it.

The hostility against disgruntled users hurts the Maemo platform where the goal should be to adjust the platform to conform to the use cases.

'A car can't turn right? Stop blaming Ford! That's what you get for not reading up on what you buy. Go away, we don't want people here who wants to turn any other way than left...'

That's what it feels like to read threads like this.

This coming from someone who knew pretty much what he bought.

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That's it. If you got the money to just blow willy nilly, then go for it.

But if you're going to whinge that it doesn't do what you want it to after you made an impulse purchase, go cry to your mother, boy.

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See, this is exactly the kind of effort that goes into making a platform a worse choice. You are actually spending energy to make the world a worse place.

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when i first see the n900, i got the idea that i need to get this one, since i never used an internet tablet before, and a maemo device, i thought that this is my chance.

since i got my first qwerty keyboard phone, i find myself using a phone on a landscape mode, well atleast you can use n900 on portrait in the phone app, and i believe that "all landscape" mode can be fixed by future updates....i hope, and hope that'll come quick.

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I have grown to like the N900 but if I have the option of returning it, I will. Lucky you. Return it ASAP.

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Seriuosly who checks these things? My first Nokia was exactly 10 years ago. It had custom ring tone for each contact. I have had about 8 Nokias since then. Each one has had the same feature. I never ever checked the internet each time to check if this was the case. Why would I do so for the N900. Some features are assumed to be a given, particularly if you have had 8 phones from that manufacturer that had that feature. Custom ringtones is just an example.

Sorry don't mean to be rude but it is absolutely ridiculous to suggest you should check whether a $600 device has things which are ridiculously basic.

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The n900 is not perfect by any means but its open to so many possibilities and is of near infinite potential. For example, I was watching sky news in KMplayer earlier and playing my fav internet radio in the background with lots of browser windows open. My Nokia 5800 is great for my smartphone needs but the N900 is on a different level, my Sony vaio is gathering dust; I regret spending a fortune on iPod touch now and wish I can return it. The N900 is a glimpse into the future and its a shame that a few people dont see it that way. There is nothing like the N900 brick out there - fullstop.

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Try buying a Bang and Olufsen TV, you will be shocked to see that it misses features that is taken for granted in the typical Samsung or Panasonic TV but most buyers know this as they are more interested in picture / build quality and prestige.. Consider the heritage of the N900, it started life as a MID and the addition of a phone is just an evolution. Its forte is browsing, internet radio/tv, voip and instant messaging and it delivers these better than any solution out there with unparalleled openess to boot. I will gladly pay $1000 for it.

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Actually I think that is the first thing people learn about the N900 when they first hear about it. Most people know of the potential. It's the downsides that surprise them. Me, I always look through tests and reviews for downsides. The N900 is so much a future device with potential that the reviewers don't bother to talk about basic features. So, these things slipped through unmentioned. (Not here though, once owners started to exist, and since I had a N810 I was already reading the Maemo forums)

It is no wonder that people are attracted to the N900 when maemo has such potential. Never mind that much of this potential is 'fixed in' the next device, and not this one. But what good is potential if basic features that these people rely on is lacking now? Potential is birds on the roof.

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@volt
so u walk in a (phone) store...ask what is the latest they have from a particular manufacturer buy it...walk out...and expect it to work the way the last one did?....
well im a bit different...i see a product...LEARN a bit about it...read up and see if it suits me....try it instore....get a "real" feel....and decide (thus test drive a car before purchase)....
what bothers me is the fact that the OP was a member of this forum for a bit...so i think he had to see some of the issues with the N900 BEFORE he purchased....correct?
people have just gotten too lazy to actually do some research before going for "the latest thing"....my other half uses the N900...is she a tech geek? no. does she love her N900? yes
but she was going for the N97mini first but read up on the N900...had a play in the Nokia flagship in london...and asked a few questions BEFORE she purchased....(which i think is common sense....) and found out its shortcomings...yet she bought it...why? even with its limitations...she knew what she was getting into.....BEFOREHAND....
i do have a prob with people slating the N900....saying it lacks phone features....clearly nokia stated it was a tablet that can make calls...and NEVER the other way around....
and about the marketing? who made it a mass device? nokia? they again have clearly stated they never intended it to be a mass device.....

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So when you buy a pizza, the first thing you ask is whether it is poisoned? When you book a hotel room, do you enquire about the room having a roof?

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I am sorry, but I was unable and unwilling to spend more money on going to the Nokia flagship store in London than the device costed. I had read about it for at least 37.5 hours before I bought it and I have a full time++ job. And I was rushed into buying one because my HP smartphone died. I could not have gotten more information than I did before I decided on a device. And yet it surprised me with blatantly basic features missing. And you know what?

I wouldn't have thought to try to change the ring sound for a contact if I had been in London.

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Yes. Nokia. They are marketing this device strongly. And the chains has it as their lead ad. There is being pushed considerably amounts of money into marketing this thing.

By Nokia.

So, what do the world know about it has been said at some nokia invite-only conference that it's not intended for mass market when they are infact marketed full on everywhere?

This is some kind of reality denial, because a handful of people know about the five step program, people buying into massive advertising campaigns should not be allowed to expect anything much for their phone + more device?

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I have to ask every time, if they brought the tabasco...

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True dat. For better and for worse.

50% of Americans get divorced from their first spouse. Of those 50% that remarry, 95% of them get divorced again. There's plenty of speculation why this is, but as a divorced American I tend to go with this one:

The concept of the "American Dream" creates a false sense that someone can change their stars faster than is actually possible. The future becomes more important than the present. Till you die.

Who knows, maybe we're just spoiled brats with too many choices. Regardless, the point is, that making good decisions is unfortunately sometimes learned from making bad ones. Or, more obviously, making good decisions gets harder as the number of choices increase.

$600, on average, is piss-in-the-ocean in the grand scheme of bad decisions. If you want to blame Nokia, go ahead, but when a top cheese says this is step 4 of 5, that should have been in the title of every n900 review. Blame the bloggers if you must blame someone, the rest of us mostly knew what we were getting. But generally, take appropriate responsibility for your bad decisions and move on. Please.

Unlike my marriage, I thought the n900 was going to be a bad decision. I was wrong. Again. I should look at that.

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Best of luck with the Droid. The HD2 is a nice HTC phone and Android is a nice java platform for apps. Not for me, but then choice is a wonderful thing.

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yes, and people order cheap "viagra" via internet. both activities are about as smart things to do....

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nokia definitelly mass marketed this device.....got to NOKIA USA and it blazes the front pages as the next best thing......i saw it has MfE and assumed I can get my corporate emails......i was wrong.....this device is useless to me as i cant get my email.

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They are all Symbian phones though I suspect. That is a bit like saying you've used an Intel based machine that runs Windows so confused when buying a new Mac with Intel processor & it isn't the same.

I do however, agree that the sales staff in shops seem very ignorant of the difference and will say anything to get a sale.