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geekgirl123 2007-01-31 18:39

This is a Very Cool Internet Tablet
 
Does any one love the Nokia 770 as much as i do? I LOVE IT. and it is pretty fast at Pulling up a webpage.:) And it is GREAT for research!
Thanks
Geek Girl 123
I AM A NERD

=DC= 2007-01-31 19:25

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Welcome to the party geekgirl123! :D Yes, the Internet Tablets are very awesome.

convulted 2007-01-31 21:58

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It's refreshing to hear someone complementing the good features of the 770 for once :D
Welcome to the family geekgirl. (Pretty new to it myself, but a very valuable bookmark to have.)

benny1967 2007-01-31 22:21

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It changed the way I use the internet - and it chaned the way I use my mobile phone. It's a fantastic device and I hope that after the N800 Nokia will release something more similiar to the 770 again :D

pycage 2007-01-31 23:46

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Yep, this is the real ultra mobile PC (UMPC) for me. Not those fat Origami bricks with poor battery life. :D

Keep up the good work, Nokia!

Karel Jansens 2007-02-01 00:05

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You people disgust me! Heaping cheap praise upon willy-nilly glory like there's no tomorrow.

Go find some faults, darnit!!!

:D :D :D :D :D

=DC= 2007-02-01 00:48

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Well, I wouldn't mind if they were a little cheaper. :D

iFrank 2007-02-01 00:54

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Karel, these guys are falling for praises from a girl, who declares herself a GEEK (nothing wrong with that, but nothing to brag about either), says she knows a lot about computers (go figure) and types very fast!!!?

Geekgirl, welcome, but, as a geek let's contribute to the community instead of... well, you fill the dots ;)

At least, I hope, you're real :D

fpp 2007-02-01 08:55

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Things haven't changed online since the old days of Usenet and BBSes, see ? :-)

Karel Jansens 2007-02-01 13:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iFrank (Post 32743)
Karel, these guys are falling for praises from a girl, who declares herself a GEEK (nothing wrong with that, but nothing to brag about either), says she knows a lot about computers (go figure) and types very fast!!!?

Geekgirl, welcome, but, as a geek let's contribute to the community instead of... well, you fill the dots ;)

At least, I hope, you're real :D

I hope she's got a pair of HUGE memory cards.

He he he he he.

RogerS 2007-02-01 14:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iFrank (Post 32743)
welcome, but, as a geek let's contribute to the community instead of... well, you fill the dots ;)

Hey, I for one think posting what seems to be best about the internet tablet and how it's being used by a new user is contributing.

The N800 is one-sixth the size of UMPC's. It weighs less than 8 ounces while they're 29-32 ounces and more. It costs $400 compared to $900 up to $1400. Those are the direct competitors -- they show the same 800 pixel width for web pages and provide desktop OS for app compatability.

The Nokia 770 wasn't the first wifi-enabled, keyboardless, Linux web tablet but the 8th tablet trying to get traction in this niche, and where and why it succeeds needs to be emphasized.

Whatever the internet tablets do clumsily or whatever mistaken choices the Nokia designers made, that shouldn't detract from their signal accomplishments: they succeeded where everyone before them failed and they are doing a better job at tablet building than anyone else.

Oh, and the N800 -- well, being a word nerd, I can't say "I LOVE IT" in all caps. But I give it a 16.8 on a scale of 1-10.

benny1967 2007-02-01 14:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Karel Jansens (Post 32740)
You people disgust me! Heaping cheap praise upon willy-nilly glory like there's no tomorrow.

Go find some faults, darnit!!!

The rotten thing should be way smaller. And it should have a much bigger screen, at least twice its current size. And I don't understand why they didn't include alle the 8bit Atari/Commodore/... emulations. What an absurd strategy not to have those.

Of course there should be firewire, lan and at least 5 usb-ports (1 usb port! is this a joke?) and i want to plug in my monitor, my mouse and my keyboard when i'm at home.

did i mention it's much too cool compared to, say, UMPCs? you can't fry eggs with it. nokia didn't think of the most ovious use cases at all.

Ah, yes: It is not a phone! I'll return it.

Forgotten1 2007-02-01 14:23

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I use my N770 everyday and have become addicted to having it with me everywhere. Hope to upgrade soon to the N800.

iFrank 2007-02-01 14:47

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Roger, and you saw all of these in her post? Wow! (as in Vista) :D

geekgirl123 2007-02-01 15:21

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You people are disgusting. I just Came here to learn more about the Nokia 770 and you guys are all sexual. EW! YICK! YUCK!
And i have a Boyfriend. And this is JUST A FRIGGIN USER NAME.

iFrank 2007-02-01 15:44

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Please be polite and civil; no one harassed you; we don't have a MySpace forum here; just a friendly and professional one; if can't take a little bit of humor, then, well... too bad. Making scenes doesn’t get you far in real life…

BTW, what was that post of yours in "off topic" section, yesterday?

Karel Jansens 2007-02-01 17:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 32813)
The rotten thing should be way smaller. And it should have a much bigger screen, at least twice its current size. And I don't understand why they didn't include alle the 8bit Atari/Commodore/... emulations. What an absurd strategy not to have those.

Of course there should be firewire, lan and at least 5 usb-ports (1 usb port! is this a joke?) and i want to plug in my monitor, my mouse and my keyboard when i'm at home.

did i mention it's much too cool compared to, say, UMPCs? you can't fry eggs with it. nokia didn't think of the most ovious use cases at all.

Ah, yes: It is not a phone! I'll return it.

Now that's the spirit. :rolleyes:

I'd like to chime in on one of your remarks though: A bigger screen would be nice. Wouldn't it be extremely kewl if Nokia one day produced an N-tablet model with two hinged screens? Sort of like that ebook-reader I saw the other day (can't check it out now, my Bloglines is all fritzed up).

Texrat 2007-02-01 17:39

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Personally I think the fault-finding quota has been met and THEN some, considering how certain defects are belabored over and over and over and-- eh, I'd rather see positive SUGGESTIONS belabored myself. ;)

fpp 2007-02-01 20:38

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Okay Chief... Lessee... Now, this here idea of making the "Home" button on the N800 work in reverse compared to the 770... this sounds like a GREAT idea. Short press, app list and switching ; long press, home screen. Yes, that is just NATURAL.
I use the Home button on my 770 all the time, to switch between full-screen apps. Too impatient for the long press, I short-press and tap the icon (often the wrong one). That's why I like the N800 way : I could do it just as fast, using only the keys, and use the titles to get it right.

Positive, yes ? :-)

Now for the suggestion : I want this on my 770. No hardware compatibility or software licensing issues on this one, right ?...

=DC= 2007-02-02 01:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 32900)
Okay Chief... Lessee... Now, this here idea of making the "Home" button on the N800 work in reverse compared to the 770... this sounds like a GREAT idea. Short press, app list and switching ; long press, home screen. Yes, that is just NATURAL.
I use the Home button on my 770 all the time, to switch between full-screen apps. Too impatient for the long press, I short-press and tap the icon (often the wrong one). That's why I like the N800 way : I could do it just as fast, using only the keys, and use the titles to get it right.

Positive, yes ? :-)

Now for the suggestion : I want this on my 770. No hardware compatibility or software licensing issues on this one, right ?...

I agree entirely. Put that feature in the next 770 update, and stabilize the browser a bit more. Considering I've never been a Pocket PC user, I've heard horror stories about people having installed more than 10 applications on those things and crippling basic functionality afterwards. Not with the 770. I could put 30+ apps on this thing and it still runs smooth as silk.

bac522 2007-02-02 03:06

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Actually I find the device so useful that I ended up putting up with 2 WSOD within 2 weeks on 2 separate units. But since my home entertainment, lights, and NAS, are Linux centric, the 770 has proved invaluable. Oh, also am using google talk as a sip VoIP phone, and GAIM for my IM. Can't provide enough praise for maemo-mapper running on the device. Thankfully I've gone through my 1st month with the unit, countless reboots, app installs, and the unit seems to be running like charm (IE, no WSOD)

pycage 2007-02-02 07:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by =DC= (Post 32934)
I agree entirely. Put that feature in the next 770 update, and stabilize the browser a bit more. Considering I've never been a Pocket PC user, I've heard horror stories about people having installed more than 10 applications on those things and crippling basic functionality afterwards. Not with the 770. I could put 30+ apps on this thing and it still runs smooth as silk.

You can get it even better on the 770 if you can gain root. How often do you actually need the menu hardware key? Never? Good, here we go...

1. Become root
2. Open the file /etc/matchbox/kbdconfig in a text-editor
3. The file is usually empty. Just append the line F4=next
4. Save the file and run the command matchbox-remote -keys-reload or restart the N770
5. Enjoy the easy task switching by pressing the menu key!

fpp 2007-02-02 08:37

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Oh, and there's this hearsay about the N800's backup saving the repositories list. Why do we still have to do it by hand in xterm ?

=DC= 2007-02-02 09:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 32958)
You can get it even better on the 770 if you can gain root. How often do you actually need the menu hardware key? Never? Good, here we go...

1. Become root
2. Open the file /etc/matchbox/kbdconfig in a text-editor
3. The file is usually empty. Just append the line F4=next
4. Save the file and run the command matchbox-remote -keys-reload or restart the N770
5. Enjoy the easy task switching by pressing the menu key!

Nice hack pycage. Thanks! But you know, it would also be great if someone were to write a tweak UI app that automates this and other minor hacks. I know there are still some nervous users out there fearful of "breaking" something.

TA-t3 2007-02-02 11:12

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>F4=next
Nice one.. is there a way to get the "down" key of the 5-way butto to be 'next page' in the browser or pdf viewer?

pycage 2007-02-02 12:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by =DC= (Post 32969)
Nice hack pycage. Thanks! But you know, it would also be great if someone were to write a tweak UI app that automates this and other minor hacks. I know there are still some nervous users out there fearful of "breaking" something.

We should collect a bunch of nice hacks and then write such a tool. :D

fpp 2007-02-02 13:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 32958)
You can get it even better on the 770 if you can gain root. How often do you actually need the menu hardware key? Never? Good, here we go...

Nice trick, but as I run most apps full screen I use the Menu key *all the time*... so I'd really like it on the Home key as it's meant to be :-)

fpp 2007-02-02 13:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 32977)
>F4=next
Nice one.. is there a way to get the "down" key of the 5-way butto to be 'next page' in the browser or pdf viewer?

For Opera (on the 770 at least) it can be done in opera.ini.
This is documented in the maemo wiki Howtos.

pycage 2007-02-02 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 32987)
Nice trick, but as I run most apps full screen I use the Menu key *all the time*... so I'd really like it on the Home key as it's meant to be :-)

Yes, I'd also prefer this on the home key. But it's not easy/possible to stop it from going back to the home screen (as this is not handled by the window manager). So I went for the menu key.

TA-t3 2007-02-02 13:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 32988)
For Opera (on the 770 at least) it can be done in opera.ini.
This is documented in the maemo wiki Howtos.

Ah, thanks. I'll look for it.

fpp 2007-02-02 14:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 32989)
Yes, I'd also prefer this on the home key. But it's not easy/possible to stop it from going back to the home screen (as this is not handled by the window manager). So I went for the menu key.

I fully understand that. But apparently Nokia does know how, so... :-)

=DC= 2007-02-02 18:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pycage (Post 32983)
We should collect a bunch of nice hacks and then write such a tool. :D

I'm down with that.

superbondbond 2007-02-02 19:08

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One 'hack' that I always have to do after flashing is change the en_US.vkb file so that the hyphen isn't a shifted key, and also re-arrange the number keys to match that of a standard keyboard.

note to self: keep a backup of the modified vkb file.


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