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qgil 2010-02-15 10:46

Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
http://flors.wordpress.com/2010/02/1...meego-join-us/

I will update this later. Let's start the discussion here.

mece 2010-02-15 10:51

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
The phrase "Fully open source" spotted. That a fact?

qgil 2010-02-15 10:53

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Yes: http://meego.com

jakiman 2010-02-15 10:54

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
I know someone had to ask.

Will Meego be available for N900 as an upgrade OS?

mr_bridger 2010-02-15 10:54

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
So a 2 month old N900 has a defunct OS already....

what are the chances of MeeGo on N900?

mpsi 2010-02-15 10:55

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
The name must be a joke: "me" + "ego" = ?

eleclipper 2010-02-15 10:55

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
there goes maemo already, hopefully it can be run on the n900

w00t 2010-02-15 10:55

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
I'm a bit perplexed as to how this all fits together, though it does seem like a good idea.

Will Moblin and Maemo as seperate entities go away to be replaced by MeeGoo? If so, how does that affect maemo.org?

eleclipper 2010-02-15 10:56

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
first release already seconf quarter, they are moving fast with this

HugoSon 2010-02-15 10:58

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...what does that mean? Maemo6 = MeeGo 1.0 ? Or will it be "only" compatible with Moblin apps? Will this page be the "talk.meego.org" at some stage?
I think this is huge to bring it together - and haveing QT in the middle of everthing will make thinks even easier to develop.

eleclipper 2010-02-15 10:58

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"If you look at the next release of Maemo, it'll be fully compatible with MeeGo in terms of application development."

daemonfin 2010-02-15 10:59

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Whaat? Moblin?

77h 2010-02-15 10:59

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by w00t (Post 527114)
I'm a bit perplexed as to how this all fits together, though it does seem like a good idea.

Will Moblin and Maemo as seperate entities go away to be replaced by MeeGoo? If so, how does that affect maemo.org?

according to announcment maemo.org will be replaced "merged" with meegoo

Stskeeps 2010-02-15 11:00

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Excellent! I actually hoped things like this would happen.

Rauha 2010-02-15 11:02

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
From Engadget live feed:

Nokia's not decided whether Maemo 6 will be Maemo 6, MeeGo, or something else. "We haven't decided on the branding."

hyartep 2010-02-15 11:03

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
i'd like to have one strong platform for mobile linux. so meego should be good news.

however, i'm afraid, this means:

1) nokia had again thrown out compatibility and continuity with previous linux devices

2) i hoped that maemo6 will be THE polished consumer product I was looking for. Unfortunately meego will again take time to merge maemo and moblin and prepare stable consumer product.
Even if the 1st device will be available this year, it will be temporary product with followup devices incampatible again (i'm sure).

mr_bridger 2010-02-15 11:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 527125)
From Engadget live feed:

Nokia's not decided whether Maemo 6 will be Maemo 6, MeeGo, or something else. "We haven't decided on the branding."

Have Nokia any clue whats going on?

HugoSon 2010-02-15 11:04

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
...and just another think jumping to my mind - does this mean that Intel will support a platform that runs on ARM?!? Well how strange this might be for the Intel x86 community?

mece 2010-02-15 11:05

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Jaaksi says maemo 6 is an instance of meego: http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/2010/02/meego-time.html

Rugoz 2010-02-15 11:06

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Sorry but MeeGo is just a stupid name, why not Maemo or Moblin?

Cheers

amarjyoti 2010-02-15 11:07

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Wonderful news. Yet another win for Linux.
I hope both communities merge well and come out stronger.
Moblin is really nice on netbooks. And all of us here are Maemo fans anyway.
I think they would complement each other. :-)

benny1967 2010-02-15 11:07

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Yeah! This is what I had hoped for since July 2007. Moblin and Maemo had always been so close...

Rauha 2010-02-15 11:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HugoSon (Post 527129)
...and just another think jumping to my mind - does this mean that Intel will support a platform that runs on ARM?!? Well how strange this might be for the Intel x86 community?

Yes, they said that Meego will support multiple hardware platforms and that just simply has to include ARM considering that they basicly listed every possible kind of mobile device from phones to in vehicle devices.


EDIT:
From Ari Jaaksi's blog:


It’ll run on X86 and on Arm based hardware.

ivgalvez 2010-02-15 11:08

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This is really scary.

Will Maemo 5 receive any sort of updates now that Nokia has embraced (yet) another new project?

Are the next Maemo 6 powered devices moving to x86 platform?

If Meego is the next Maemo 6, will it run on N900? (considering Intel is an x86 provider I supose not).

Will Moblin lost all of it's Clutter based goodies to adopt Qt?

Will Meego run on any x86 based PC as any other Linux distro? Does it means that Maemo is not a Mobile Computer platform but a common Linux distro?

Sincerely I can't understand Nokia's strategy, while Apple's and Google's appear very clear to me.

tentpole 2010-02-15 11:09

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Right now, I'm loving this move.

"Netbook, Pocketables, In-Vehicle, Connected TV, Media phone" :)

Bernard 2010-02-15 11:09

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I hope this does not delay the next products.
Maemo 5 is very usable, and Moblin 2.1 is almost usable in my opinion (a little too much bugs in my opinion).

HopeMeeGo helps to promote linux

mr_bridger 2010-02-15 11:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 527133)
Yeah! This is what I had hoped for since July 2007. Moblin and Maemo had always been so close...

great news for the community, not so great unless its worked back to all the punters that bought an N900 and are in 18 / 24 month contracts...


from twitter.....
@FoneArena

Just asked a question if nokia n900 will get meego .. got an answer that developers could make transition easily. .. dunno if consumers can

maluka 2010-02-15 11:10

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Great news for me. Less Linux fragmentation, more shared resources to build future open source applications.

hyartep 2010-02-15 11:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugoz (Post 527131)
Sorry but MeeGo is just a stupid name, why not Maemo or Moblin?

i agree that the name is poor.

as for "why not use established name": have you read flor's blog? he is happy two big egos of intel and nokia are able to cooperate. it seems, however, that these two egos needed new name to go on with the "merger". :-)

quingu 2010-02-15 11:11

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That sounds like a rather unfortunate turn. I'd hoped that Nokia had a stronger vision for the maemo platform! Now they're already cobbling it up again. How's that helping with building a strong community??

Also, what the heck is intel up to? their only asset is x86 technology! why are they investing in creating an open, portable platform that would be architecture-independent? as soon as people have the free choice of architecture for running their software, intel will be crunched by ARM.

jsa 2010-02-15 11:14

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I don't understand how people can see this as such a negative thing. Nokia and Intel are both massive, and they are putting their united effort behind ONE open source platform!

tentpole 2010-02-15 11:14

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
http://meego.com/about/overview/big-...steering-group
this video answers a bunch of questions people here have asked

http://meego.com

tso 2010-02-15 11:14

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heh, the thought that intel have trouble getting traction with moblin, and is piggybacking on maemo just hit me...

ivgalvez 2010-02-15 11:15

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Again reinventing the wheel...

I really don't understand this movement. Nokia has developed ARM based devices for years, what now?

Rauha 2010-02-15 11:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jsa (Post 527143)
I don't understand how people can see this as such a negative thing. Nokia and Intel are both massive, and they are putting their united effort behind ONE open source platform!

This plus the fact that you won't be limited to Nokia as only source for hardware anymore.

ivgalvez 2010-02-15 11:18

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsa (Post 527143)
I don't understand how people can see this as such a negative thing. Nokia and Intel are both massive, and they are putting their united effort behind ONE open source platform!

It's negative for me because I've spent 600 euros in a mobile computer that hasn't received some of the features promised, that hasn't a properly working software store and that has an uncertain future.

Bernard 2010-02-15 11:19

Re: Maemo + Moblin = MeeGo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jsa (Post 527143)
I don't understand how people can see this as such a negative thing. Nokia and Intel are both massive, and they are putting their united effort behind ONE open source platform!

There are a lot of unanswered questions. It is a lot easier for 1 company to develop an OS, than to cooperate with a second one that is currently is a totally different market. SUre netbooks/smartphones/booklets/tablet are merging, but Nokia and Intel have totally different things that they want to gain from this.

maluka 2010-02-15 11:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 527149)
It's negative for me because I've spent 600 euros in a mobile computer that hasn't received some of the features promised, that hasn't a properly working software store and that has an uncertain future.

You are a glass half empty person I see. What I see is more resources being pumped into application development for our devices.

Matan 2010-02-15 11:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mr_bridger (Post 527138)
great news for the community, not so great unless its worked back to all the punters that bought an N900 and are in 18 / 24 month contracts...


from twitter.....
@FoneArena

Just asked a question if nokia n900 will get meego .. got an answer that developers could make transition easily. .. dunno if consumers can

That sounds to me like: "no".

HangLoose 2010-02-15 11:21

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So with all of the potential uses of this platform we are discussing naming?! As if other industry names (Microsoft, Apple, Blackberry, Wii) are somehow better? please...

What is next? The color choice isnt good enough?


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