maemo.org - Talk

maemo.org - Talk (https://talk.maemo.org/index.php)
-   Applications (https://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=41)
-   -   Backup EVERYTHING?? (https://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=44605)

UNderworld 2010-02-15 20:03

Backup EVERYTHING??
 
Hi im looking for a way to backup everything.. including apps... I dont think the normal backup software does it...

Is there a way to backup/copy the partition which stores applications (is it rootfs?) and restore/paste it later on? or even on a different N900..
thx

b666m 2010-02-15 20:06

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
the normal backup saves a list of installed apps - not the apps themselves.

so if you restore the backup you have to download all those apps again - but this is done automatically :)

i can't imagine any other solution for doing a backup of all apps.

edit: ok... you may be able to save all deb-files out of the archives-folder. but you'll have to update these apps anyways. so the backup-tool is (in my opinion) the best way. ^^

UNderworld 2010-02-15 20:08

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b666m (Post 528074)
the normal backup saves a list of installed apps - not the apps themselves.

so if you restore the backup you have to download all those apps again - but this is done automatically :)

i can't imagine any other solution for doing a backup of all apps.

is it gonna install everything again by itself after the restore??:eek:

Rob1n 2010-02-15 20:10

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UNderworld (Post 528071)
Hi im looking for a way to backup everything.. including apps... I dont think the normal backup software does it...

Is there a way to backup/copy the partition which stores applications (is it rootfs?) and restore/paste it later on? or even on a different N900..
thx

The backup tool will backup a list of installed applications. When you restore, it will redownload them from the repositories and reinstall them.

As for alternatives - you can use rsync to backup the entire system. Restoring it could be problematic though, as just overwriting all the files could cause issues with files that are in use.

b666m 2010-02-15 20:11

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by UNderworld (Post 528078)
is it gonna install everything again by itself after the restore??:eek:

you can restore the backup in app-manager.

in app-manager you can click on the top bar and there will be a new point named "restore programs".

if you click it, the list of apps you've saved will be downloaded and installed again. can't remember but i think there is the possibilty to "apply to all" or being ask for each program before installing.

UNderworld 2010-02-15 20:17

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
thanks... is it possible to restore the backup in another N900??
because i noticed it wont let the user browse for the backup file... is there a specific directory where it saves it? and ONLY looks there for a backup?

b666m 2010-02-15 20:18

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
the folder is named "backups" in your "MyDocs" :)

UNderworld 2010-02-15 20:19

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
thankss ;)

Rob1n 2010-02-15 20:36

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by b666m (Post 528094)
the folder is named "backups" in your "MyDocs" :)

Or the same folder name on the memory card.

waleed786 2010-02-15 20:43

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
what about my custom boot video, or status bar icons and things..would those be backed up? I know the theme itself will be backed up, but the icon files are not located in the theme folder so Im not sure

b666m 2010-02-15 20:47

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
i don't think these files are backed up.
many users who had problems after doing mods restored their backups and i think they only had the default icons afterwards.

waleed786 2010-02-15 20:53

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
Yea thats what I thought. I made a backup file the other day and it was 20mb, why is it such a big file if it doesnt save the actual apps? When I made a backup a month ago, it was only 4mb

b666m 2010-02-15 20:57

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
my backups also were at about 4 MB. now it is 32 MB. ^^
as my pidgin logs (stored as html) are about 20 MB i would think a big part of these 32 MB are the conversations i made the last few weeks.
but it's looking quite too much for only some sms i wrote. *G*

edit: looked at it with my ubuntu laptop:
applications.zip -> 1,2 KB
bookmarks.zip -> 203 KB
comm_and_cal.zip -> 660,5 KB
settings.zip -> 6,9 MB
backup.metadata -> 682 Bytes

unzipped:
applications -> ~260 KB
(/var/lib/hildon-application-manager/ -> catalogues.backup and packages.backup)
bookmarks -> 192 KB
(/home/user/.bookmarks)
comm_and_cal -> 1,4 MB
(something in /home/user/, /tmp/.rtcom-accounts/ and /var/cache and lib)
settings -> ~30 MB
(maaaaany things of /home/user ^^, /etc/osso-af-init, /temp/.maesync and /var/lib a few things)

so it's very compressed :)

edit: settings (the ~30 MB) contain:
/etc -> 780 KB
/tmp -> nothing ^^
/var -> 35 KB
/home/user -> about 30 MB whereof 3,3 MB are settings (".$name") and the rest .purple (~27 MB whereof 20 MB are my pidgin logs)

UNderworld 2010-02-15 20:58

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by waleed786 (Post 528171)
Yea thats what I thought. I made a backup file the other day and it was 20mb, why is it such a big file if it doesnt save the actual apps? When I made a backup a month ago, it was only 4mb

call log? game levels? alarm clocks? contacts? bookmarks?
i dont know what else, just a guess.. mine just came to 19mb...

b666m 2010-02-15 21:36

Re: Backup EVERYTHING??
 
just take a look at my previous post.
there i broke down the contents of the backup-files. :)


All times are GMT. The time now is 23:34.

vBulletin® Version 3.8.8