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CaSPeRFXX 2010-02-17 13:11

N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
For the record. I am unhappy so far with my N900 regarding the software. Considering its a new OS I'll accept that it requires time to mature.

Now I may be disappointed so far but I am exited regarding the potential. As Nokia market this phone/internet tablet as a mini computer add to that the OS and its current and potential abilities they are right.

For me the N900 was to replace my many devices including the netbook, well in theory its possible. Potentially its a real possibility.

I wanted office on my N900 so I installed Easy Debian and have access to Open Office. At the moment I cannot zoom in to the page. So I connected it to my 32inch TV and it was fine but lacking something.....

The mouse and keyboard. I tried connecting my apple keyboard and mouse (bluetooth)and it did not work.

I believe its potentially possible for that to happen in the future. Hope it does.

I recorded some videos in high format resolution and they wont play on my PSP. I have to convert to lower resolution. This means transfer the files from the phone to a computer.

Surely its possible to develop and run a video editing/converting software to run on the Phone.

Id like to push the N900 to its limit.

What computer software would you like on your N900?

Andre Klapper 2010-02-17 13:29

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaSPeRFXX (Post 532074)
The mouse and keyboard. I tried connecting my apple keyboard and mouse (bluetooth)and it did not work.

Did you check http://wiki.maemo.org/Fremantle_Unsu...tooth_profiles ?

rash.m2k 2010-02-17 13:39

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
There ain't no way it can replace a netbook!

In real terms, the CPU is like pentium I or II class, so it may just be able to manage windows 98.

Consider what apps you had with windows 98 and that should put it into perspective. You want a video editing suite on a 600Mhz PC? You could just about run Quake 2/3 and office without win 98 falling over.

Get some perspective! You can do ALOT more with the N900 BUT it will never replace a netbook, it's just too slow for that (and even netbooks are slow!)

CaSPeRFXX 2010-02-17 13:55

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 532121)
There ain't no way it can replace a netbook!

In real terms, the CPU is like pentium I or II class, so it may just be able to manage windows 98.

Consider what apps you had with windows 98 and that should put it into perspective. You want a video editing suite on a 600Mhz PC? You could just about run Quake 2/3 and office without win 98 falling over.

On average use most people would require full internet browser which the N900 has and office app which again its "has" I even had video editing software on older phones like the SE W810i. I dont see why the N900 cant have one and also have encoding/converting software.

I dont see any harm in video editing/converting software for around a 10/15mb files. Its short clips not feature length movies.

I remember windows 98 with a 533mhz processor and playing Fifa 98.

Like I said Id like to see the N900 PUSHED TO ITS LIMIT.

It may not replace the netbook in regards to hardware speed but it can act as a slower netbook model and hook it up to TV with Mouse and Keyboard presto thats some pocket size machine.for web browsing and office.

geneven 2010-02-17 13:59

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
I think it can darned near replace a netbook. I have a netbook sitting next to me, and some days I just use the N900 and the Kindle sitting next to it. The last time I went out of town for a week, I left the Netbook at home and didn't miss it.

schettj 2010-02-17 14:14

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Hey, I like my n900, but it's not going to replace my netbook. Nothing that small could, I have adult sized fingers, and old eyes ;)

CaSPeRFXX 2010-02-17 14:19

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 532192)
Hey, I like my n900, but it's not going to replace my netbook. Nothing that small could, I have adult sized fingers, and old eyes ;)

Yes for on the move you are right then again I am thinking out of the box. I normally carry the av cable with me. At home I just hook it up to the TV.

Andre Klapper has posted the link to enable the bluetooth profile so hopefully the keyboard will work, no mention of the mouse but can give it a try.

As I said in my OP I am looking to the future and the potential of this phone has.

DarkPand0r 2010-02-17 14:22

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
I've done pretty much everything on my N900 but will admit its not a full blown replacement.
I guess its difficult because I don't own a netbook (a 17" Laptop instead) but I find the N900 screen a little too small to ever consider it a replacement. But Ill also say I've never WANTED to browse the internet on a phone before and I do quite often with my N900. I'm very rarely a mobile gamer but I've found myself playing Angry birds whenever I have an idol moment.

And the thing thats most important to me. With phones in the past they are just phones with a little extra, But with the N900 I feel as though I'm using a small computer.

DarkPand0r 2010-02-17 14:23

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CaSPeRFXX (Post 532203)
As I said in my OP I am looking to the future and the potential of this phone has.

We're in the same boat friend, And I definitely agree with your comments about the Keyboard/Mouse.

schettj 2010-02-17 14:37

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Yeah, ok, so now I am hauling the 900 + a keyboard and a mouse and I'm looking for a TV to use as a display? I could have just brought my netbook ;)

CaSPeRFXX 2010-02-17 14:46

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 532236)
Yeah, ok, so now I am hauling the 900 + a keyboard and a mouse and I'm looking for a TV to use as a display? I could have just brought my netbook ;)

LOL!!!.

Not suitable every time or for everyone. In my case at home/friends and work I could connect the phone to the TV +Keyboard and Mouse.without carrying any of them.

Again not practical when on the train.

Pros and Cons. Every product or idea has one and this one is no different.

DarkPand0r 2010-02-17 14:46

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 532236)
Yeah, ok, so now I am hauling the 900 + a keyboard and a mouse and I'm looking for a TV to use as a display? I could have just brought my netbook ;)

Logitech do a nice 2-1 Keyboard/Mouse, Would be really cool if that worked.

geneven 2010-02-17 14:46

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
My weak old eyes are an advantage! They mean that I can hold the N900 closer to my face. If you are far-sighted, it's a different story.

CaSPeRFXX 2010-02-17 14:48

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 532250)
My weak old eyes are an advantage! They mean that I can hold the N900 closer to my face. If you are far-sighted, it's a different story.

True or you could carry a magnifying glass;)

2disbetter 2010-02-17 15:02

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Sounds like some of you missed out on the OQO. (oqo.com) Since defunct, but they were a computer the size of your hand that fit in your pocket. I loved them dearly.

Now though the N900 has replaced my 02. While it's not a x86 computer, it's open architecture means the sky is the limit with it. I VNC with my home comp anywhere in the world, and do real computing as a result. If i don't have a cell connection, I can work on code, check documents, and various other things.

For someone to complain that the N900 is not a PC enough experience just means they really haven't done any research or even attempted to unlock the real potential of this little computer.

People wonder why Nokia doesn't raise their hand more and tell people exactly what they can do with it. But the reason is all over this forum. Look at the people with rebooting issues, etc. from the new firmware update.

These problems are just the natural order of something that can be messed with by anyone. If Nokia was the one pulling all the strings on this phoen there would be a ground for people to complain. Alas this is not the case. This phone is open, and glorious because of it.

So stop wasting your time complaining about what YOU can't get it to do, and start searching this forum for all the possibilities.

2d


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CaSPeRFXX 2010-02-17 15:06

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 2disbetter (Post 532279)

For someone to complain that the N900 is not a PC enough experience just means they really haven't done any research or even attempted to unlock the real potential of this little computer.

These problems are just the natural order of something that can be messed with by anyone. If Nokia was the one pulling all the strings on this phoen there would be a ground for people to complain. Alas this is not the case. This phone is open, and glorious because of it.

So stop wasting your time complaining about what YOU can't get it to do, and start searching this forum for all the possibilities.

I agree with you. At the moment Its like many are sitting on an oil field plucking fishes.

afaq 2010-02-17 15:12

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Some of us lack the know-how to real drill for the oil. :D

rich c 2010-02-17 15:43

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
I've certainly found that on a network with other real computers (Only bigger.) it rocks! I don't honestly think I'd get any more use out of a netbook or even a laptop. If I want to run an app that uses lots of cpu, memory etc. then it's gonna be on my desktop!

DaveP1 2010-02-17 16:14

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
The N900 is a phone with a good browser and some limited computing capabilities but with a teeny screen with limited graphics, a teeny thumbboard and no cursor capabilities on its own.

A netbook has no phone (other than Skype or similar software), a better browser, and better computing capabilities with a bigger screen and keyboard and a cursor.

There are also UMPCs (including my OQO) and MIDs that fall somewhere in between.

It all boils down to what you want to do and where you want to do it. Realistically, if you are looking for something to power a large screen with a keyboard and mouse you'd do better to invest in a netbook than in a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. The low end ones aren't that much more than a good keyboard/mouse set and they will beat the N900 in every way except making phone calls.

rash.m2k 2010-02-17 16:47

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
If you are really serious about this, then it seems it would make a half decent netbook replacement - but don't even think about complaining that it's slow!

You can get a foldable keyboard (I have one made by iGo - but never used it!), and a bluetooth mouse quite cheap and tv-out cable ofcourse.

Don't expect it to all just 'work', you will have to mess around with it.

To get a video converter application try installing easy debian and install a linux video converter - it will do the job but probably only from command line.

CaSPeRFXX 2010-02-17 16:56

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rash.m2k (Post 532522)
If you are really serious about this, then it seems it would make a half decent netbook replacement - but don't even think about complaining that it's slow!

You can get a foldable keyboard (I have one made by iGo - but never used it!), and a bluetooth mouse quite cheap and tv-out cable ofcourse.

Don't expect it to all just 'work', you will have to mess around with it.

To get a video converter application try installing easy debian and install a linux video converter - it will do the job but probably only from command line.

I can live with slow speed. Thats not the issue. Since you mentioned Debian. I have installed Debian.

I have no clue how to install software on Debian.. I tried to install iplayer on Debian. Did not work. Then tried to update the flash on the browser again did not work.

Can you show me how to install a software on Debian. Once I understand how to install then surely I can dig up many software's and install them without any help. To get to that stage I need help in the process on installing on Debian.

Thanks

colnago 2010-02-17 17:00

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by schettj (Post 532236)
Yeah, ok, so now I am hauling the 900 + a keyboard and a mouse and I'm looking for a TV to use as a display? I could have just brought my netbook ;)

You need something like this then:

http://www.celiocorp.com


http://www.celiocorp.com/shared/products/Ontable.jpg

DaveP1 2010-02-17 17:46

Re: N900 The Mobile Computer?
 
Except the RedFly starts at $200 and I can get the MSI Wind U100-018US at NewEgg for only $250 with a Intel Atom N270 1.60GHz CPU, 1024 x 600 resolution, 1GB RAM and a 160GB HDD. I'll say it again, if you are willing to sacrifice the size of the N900 to hook it to a keyboard and screen - buy a netbook. The N900 is for use out of a pocket.


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