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Echohead 2010-02-20 09:34

Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
Hi guys,

Bought an n810 recently, trying to do some straightforward editing of large/simple (20-30 page) documents. Gave up on Abiword (crashy, crashy) and OpenOffice (waity, waity) and hoping to avoid Google docs. This, as far as I gather, leaves me with two choices: Notes and Leafpad.

Leafpad Problem

The problem here is that when I try to bold (italicize, underline, etc.) a specific line of the text, the whole file becomes effected, rather than just the selection. Tinkered around for 40min with it today, no avail.

Notes Problem

It doesn't remember the spaces between the lines within the document. I tried various ways to save the doc, but still, every time I open it, the spaces between the paragraphs are gone and the whole doc is one big paragraph.

Any suggestions for either of these issues (or a better app)?

Echohead 2010-02-21 15:29

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
***bump***

pelago 2010-02-21 17:27

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
I don't know about LeafPad, but there are bugs in the "wpeditor" component used by Notes. Personally I've downgraded to version 2.12 of that component. See https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3336

Echohead 2010-02-22 01:55

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
Thanks mate, very helpful. What I've come to like about leafpad tho, is the ability to go absolutely full screen (without that huge bar at the bottom of the screen). Leafpad/other-program suggestions anyone?

(Man such decent piece of hardware, can't believe software is this much of an issue, just silly.)

pelago 2010-02-22 09:47

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Echohead (Post 538158)
Leafpad Problem

The problem here is that when I try to bold (italicize, underline, etc.) a specific line of the text, the whole file becomes effected, rather than just the selection. Tinkered around for 40min with it today, no avail.

I've just had a play with Leafpad. I think your problem is a misunderstanding. Leafpad is a plain text editor (like Notepad on Windows), it doesn't support formatting. You can change the display font in menu Options, Font, but that just changes how the whole document appears - it doesn't change the data on disk.

Echohead 2010-02-23 23:12

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
Ah, thanks for the info, u r correct.

Echohead 2010-03-02 07:57

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
One more question. I just had leaf crash on me, erasing all the work i got done that hour and suddenly im a fan of notes (and the autosave feature) again ;) I'm trying to follow the instructions in post 7 of the above link, but am unsure as to what this means:

and then as root use dpkg -i wpeditor0_2.12-0_armel.deb to install the new version.

I've downloaded rootsh and gain root access by typing a "sudo gainroot" command into a terminal. But what then? I tried plugging "dpkg -i wpeditor0_2.12-0_armel.deb" in as a command. Tried installing from file via application manager. I'm afraid im fresh out of tricks at this point.

thanks in advance.

pelago 2010-03-02 09:49

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
You've downloaded wpeditor0_2.12-0_armel.deb from http://repository.maemo.org/pool/mae...ee/w/wpeditor/, yes? In the root terminal, cd into the folder where you saved the downloaded file. "dpkg -i wpeditor0_2.12-0_armel.deb" should then work. What is the output of that command, if it doesn't work?

Echohead 2010-03-02 16:32

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
ah, it was the cd'ing element that i was missing. I couldn't figure out the extension of the actual main computer folder (the one with the: images, vid clips, audio clips and doc sub-folders) in order to cd it. But knew how to find the internal card, so just moved the install file there, cd'ed it and ran the command. Worked like a charm, thanks. For future reference, what is the extension for the main computer folder?

pelago 2010-03-02 16:49

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Echohead (Post 552607)
For future reference, what is the extension for the main computer folder?

/home/user/MyDocs. If you cd into there from Terminal and do an ls, you won't see all the subfolders you're expecting to because they are hidden (start with a dot), e.g. .documents, .images, .sounds. Personally, on the N810 I use the internal MMC (/media/mmc2) for all my data storage, because /home/user/MyDocs is in the 256MB limited rootfs.

Echohead 2010-03-02 18:33

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
Very helpful man, thanks again.

Echohead 2010-03-02 18:34

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
... or woman... either way :)

pataphysician 2010-03-02 19:21

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
You might want to try Conboy out, you get some formatting ability like Notes, and in fullscreen mode there is no toolbar. It also allows hyperlinks between different notes. Conboy requires no saving, it always has your changes.

Also, you could try Notecase, which isn't in the maemo repositories, it's a nice little outliner with a lot of customizability. You can make it so no tool bar is visible, and also not display the outliner tree view, so you have a nice fullscreen to edit. Notecase also has an autosave feature.

http://notecase.sourceforge.net/download.html

Echohead 2010-03-10 02:14

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
Thanks for the advice. I tried both apps, but it looks like neither has the ability to control the size of the font very much, leaving me with lettering which is far too big to make effective use of the screen. Is there a way to gain finer control over font size in these apps (like there is in notes or leafpad)?

pelago 2010-03-10 10:00

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
For Conboy, you could ask in the thread http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=28355

Echohead 2010-03-10 20:01

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
Done, thanks. Notecase pro is another option, but 35 euros is a little nutty, especially considering that I bought the n810 for about that much.

Echohead 2010-03-13 00:31

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
Ok, if anyone is looking for the same thing I am, conboy really is a good alternative. You get an actual full screen mode and realtime auto backups (from what i understand, haven't had the pleasure yet). As far as maximizing screen real estate (without going blind), I found two good options:
1) zoom out all the way, in once, then set the text to small and bold
2) zoom out all the way, in once, then set the text to normal and bold
Serves my needs pretty well so far.

Echohead 2010-03-14 01:24

Re: Notes And LeafPad Problems in Diablo
 
On the downside, no undo function in conboy (nor manual save function). Which, as far as i understand, means that if you accidentally erase text in a note, it's gone for good.


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