Support for n900 ???
 

Almost newbie here , so forgive me if this has been covered to some degree before (i have read loads on here but didn't see anything slightly concrete)

I was pretty happy when 6 weeks ago or whatever it was i saw the "big launch" of the n900 , as i finally saw a handset i would be happy to keep and see apps and things flourish for ther next 2 years maybe, and possibly even learn to program or use maemo through the x terminal a bit myself..

now after owining the handset for 2 weeks it seems that nokia do not have any "big ideas" for this platform rather its a springboard to a newer maybe better incarnation, and their own sites and software is basically non existent...

Basically my gripe is it seems like the public , worldwide, has been used as beta testers for a device that is not 100% ready , supported or appears it may never be...I saw a nokia presentation 1 weeks ago that was entirely x6 and ovi maps based, and when someone chirped up about the n900 , the only thing they would say is software will follow at some point soon !!!!!!!!

Maybe i am too niaeve (sp) but am i to take it we all have great looking phones that do soo much potentially but its great places like this that will make the unit live and not the actual manufacturer ????

Sorry for the length but i just wanted a remotely sensible answer and not 200 rants or slag offs about nokia etc etc and just an answer ....will the community be left to support the device where nokia won't / can't ?????

If so can someone teach me how to actually program/interpret the usage of the maemo software so i may actually do something with it ???

thanks ( slightly disillusionedly)

James

Re: Support for n900 ???
 

James,

I have had my N900 for about 8 weeks now. While I share and feel your pain about some of the short comings, I do not regret my decision. Picking a smart phone today is not easy with so many things to consider and before buying I did my research and prioritized what really mattered to me; the only choice for me was the N900. Yes there are things I wish it did better or maybe at all, but on the other hand it is like the gift that keeps on giving. I keep looking to see what new app is ready to try and slowly, but surely, it is becoming more complete. I know that there are more things being planned for this great device and I am sure it will get better with time. With technology there is always something better on the horizon and if we keep waiting for the next thing we end up with nothing.

As for programming, that is not my things, I am just a user. Maybe someone else can help there.

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This may be a good starting point for you jimmy
Python and Qt in 30 mins
There is much talk and speaculaton about the future of the N900 and indeed Maemo. I see the announcement for MeeGo as a positive thing that will bring many developers over to our neck of the woods. Most of the applications developed in Qt can and will be made available to the N900. What ever becomes of Maemo6 whether it will be compatable or not seems to be an issue of great debate.
All I can tell you is the only device to openly demostrate Maemo 6/Harmattan is the N900 at the moment so that at least proves concept. There are many developers in this community who make it their business to bring the seemingly unachievable to the general end user. Have a read round here.
Buzz words for searches.
Harmattan
Maemo6
MeeGo
qgil
Is the N900 ever gonna have any of the above ect..
Welcome to the waiting game :)

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go get an iphone:eek:

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To Tex14,

i had an iphone i did ditch in favour of the n900 , as the software support for it was to say the least questionable, and it was slow and buggy ..

I am not saying i dont like the n900, in some ways it has surpassed what i expected , i just thought , maybe wrongly , nokia would offer its weight behind its flagship product, and at least give it some great app support, seeing as this seems to be they way mobile devices seem to be going..

I am happy with the device as a phone, for the long term, media player now i have the codecs packs, it just seems "left behind" already in the quest for ever more developable? software

The real question is will people look at it in 12 / 18 / 24 months and ask why did you buy one of those and not wait for the xxx model ?? i have a nokia 8810, and people still look at it when i occassionaly use it and ask where they can get one from , i just say "a museum" hahaha

do i regret buying it no, wil i regret its level of support time will tell i guess

James

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Found this and this should be a good place to put this... :D

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I feel ya 100%!

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I have to say that I got N900 with few expectations. It has actually exceeded most of them, and it is better than iphone. However, Nokia needs to forget that N devices somehow should not have the same email support as E devices, and that is why my N900 is in the box. I cant use my work email due to provisioning issues with my company and I suspect a lot of companies enforce provisioning. I have to respond to 50 emails per day, and therefore cant use N900 and I hate having 2 devices. So I am hoping that provisioning will come. In US, almost 70% of the companies are considering iphone as their corporate device., and why? because it has flawless support for exchange.....the days of boring Blackberries are coming to an end....and most corporate guys want information on the web, on the email, on the facebook, etcetera......so if NOKIA wants to make a multimedia device that will also cater to people who can pay for it, i.e., employed people that work for companie.....they need to improve their email on these devices. The days of separating Ns and Es should be over and hopefully MeeGo takes that into account.

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As said many times before... Provisioning devices can either be disabled by the server admin, or you can get a job for a real company who will buy you a phone using the testing department which will work.

If you want info on the web then the iphone is not the deivce, 40% of sites are now flash, if you want it on email then do what I siad above if its what you need, on Facebook.... Well son your in the wrong company. Try jobsearch.com.

The N900 works on exchange as long as your admin knows how to set it up properly. Im not going to tell you how, or him how as if you dont know you should not have an N900.

Its Quite simple boy, E business ready, N consumer ready.

If "booring Blackberry" comes to an end I will eat my hat you clown, its BES server technology, which gives you traceability. Which no other service does. Try working for a law firm without it.

You do know working for $1 store and needing provisioning because you cant afford to host mail servers is not 70% of the US industry dont you?

Little tip.... I can take control of you iPhone at any time... if thats your company phone then well done on being ******ed... well done system security.. well done...

See paragraph structure.

Re: Support for n900 ???
 

mate as many have said on this forum

if you are not satisfied with the N900 NOW and have to ASK OTHER PEOPLE to REAFFIRM your purchase, then SELL YOUR n900 now or return it and get a phone that you are happy with

as many have pointed out here, Nokia dont have to do jack and has promised you nothing, and based on previous history on prior phones they most likely wont do anything else major

so if you are not happy with n900 RIGHT NOW, return/sell the phone and get something else that does

end of story really

Re: Support for n900 ???
 

I think you need get your genome tested for large holes related to obviously large defects in your neuronal migration. Yes, I have a company phone and it happens to be blackberry. It does it job, but its boring and I used E71, no problem for it to sync with my server (although it took nokia 4 firmware updates before they figured out a serious bug with calendar syncing on the exchange), E51 no problem syncing with my server, N900.......can not sync due to provisioning. Vitaly here on the MfE thread is aware of the problem.

Its ******s like you that feed the NOKIA self satisfaction, when there are plenty of problems to solve.

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I did mate. iphone 3GS does the trick for me

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I disagree.. I was at a corporate event last week with a presentation by Microsoft pushing Windows7 and mentioning their announcement of Windows Mobile 7.

Anyway, lots of people seem to have Blackberries and E71s. A few iPhones around and other brands. I got a few looks for taking notes using Xournal :P

Anyway, my Blackberry Bold was used a lot more and still had lots of battery power left. The n900 used battery power even quicker, and the iPhone is even worse handling power consumpyion. Blackberries/E71s will stick around for a while as they last a lot longer (ok i could put in a sexual metaphor now but I wont) and people still prefer physical qwerty keyboards.

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this seems to be going a little off thread here ! i am posting this from my n900 , i don't want to return it , i like it . a lot. full stop.

the actual point was does anyone know if or when nokia may start to support their own " experiment" ??

i am aware i could sell it and buy something else, the point is i don't want too , i guess i will have to try and learn to do stuff myself or make suggestions to keep the device fresh..

james

Re: Support for n900 ???
 

James, firstly welcome to the forum and apologies on behalf of the saner people that your thread got hijaaked.

Maemo has always been a platform for hackers/developers and people that like to play with the device themselves. Nokia is a huge corporation but the Maemo team are only a tiny part of that organisation.

The N900 is billed as a step 4 of 5 by Nokia in that it isn"t quite a device ready for the masses yet. The early adopters that Nokia intended the device for enjoy being part of the force that shapes then next iteration (as we did with Diablo).

We are still in the early days of Maemo 5 and Nokia tend to release and then develop rather than keep everything secret and release when finally all done. Hopefully you will get used to being part of the support through this community.

Enjoy!

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ever think that nokia is just putting more people into making meego way better and are trying to have an n900 firmware ready for the next firmware update? Personally, I would like to have a firmware update in the first of q2 that has meego plus many other updates/fixes that we have been waiting for. It would be like christmas all over again! Anyone that returns their n900s clearly bought it as an impulse buy and should not complain about it. For example, a friend of mine at work bought a droid and returned it because he hated it. I am just saying you need to research the right phone for you before you go out and buy it.

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this is my point entirely the whole research the phone before you buy it mentality, this is not meant to be rude , but it may sound a bit ... i did research the handset , eg what it did etc and what it could do, but how could i actually know the meego thing was happening , which is a bit of a smokescreen to the fact nokia "it seems" have not got the support there or the apps or the games or the websites or anything there in place .

that makes me sound awfully whiney , i am not , i love the form factor, the things it can do etc , just feel a bit narked right now as i guess a lot of people do ....

Am i wrong ? honestly , hand on heart i just want enjoyment from my product !!!!

James