Symbian^3 on N900?
 

Nokia's first phone with the new Symbian (Symbian^3) will be released: Nokia X10.
It runs on the same CPU as the N900 (Arm Cortex A8, 600MHz)


Check out the video over here:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/65716/nok...-telefoon.html
Mirror on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3AJxszteK8


Since Symbian^3 is open source, will it be possible to port this on the N900? :)

We could use some Dualboot on our device so we can use both OS's :)

Comments are welcome :D

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

I have never liked Symbian, but nevertheless it would be awesome.

I am still waiting for an Android port. :D

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I'm 100% sure we are seeing OMAP3 Symbian^3 phone from Nokia, but X10 is fake. That X10 is "leaked" by the same guy who made video of one of the early N87 leaks some 5 months ago in exactly the same way as this. It had 3mpx front camera with flash, design from 5330, Nokia in wrong font and lots of typos.

I'm interested about strong multimedia Symbian^3 phones from Nokia, but can't say i want it to N900. Symbian^4 yes, but at that time we already got MeeGo/Harmattan.

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Right now: not a chance. While the Symbian^3 code was indeed dump^Wreleased this month, it's still far from being a useable system. See http://blog.symbian.org/2010/02/05/i...n-so-now-what/ for details (high-level summary: doesn't compile with GCC, slow/buggy graphics).

In the longer term: maybe (I suspect Symbian developers might end up using N900s as developer "boards"), but why would you want to? Symbian^3 won't run existing S60/UIQ apps, and the Qt apps it will run are supposed to be easily portable to Maemo.

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OVI maps ? :rolleyes:

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By the time Symbian^3 (or, more likely, Symbian^4) devices are out and there's an Ovi Maps version for those I'm sure there will be an updated version for Maemo as well.

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Symbian^3 is S60v5 compatible, however, the Qt-based Symbian^4 won't be.

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I could use a symbian dual boot for missing phone/email functionality:p

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Symbian^3 is indeed compatible with S60v5 :) :)

So, basically, it should be possible to play NGage games on the Maemo :)

ANd yeah, like bret hart said; the phone app is way better on the Symbian, hehe

*hides from the mad Maemo users*

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lol i would love to dual boot the new symbian on the N900 too ive never thought of that

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yeah possibly someone could get this to run on N900, it would be the end of the world war lol

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Yeah defenitly :)

Plus it's already possible to boot Anroid... so.. Maemo = Solution to everything! :D

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would be interesting to see this dual booted :)

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Symbian isn't based on linux, so I doubt it will be possible.

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that would be awesome, true, symbian isn't based on linux but i don't think thats a problem, i think the drivers should be close, plus if symbian^3 wwas ported on the n900 it will run in full speed on our overclocked devices (becasue everyone overclocked their phones, mine is running @900 mhz 24/7 ) .
anyway porting symbian s60 v5 is very posssible ( google it and u'll find the answer ;) )
so symbian^3 is open source with qt based apps, so if symbian^3 wasn't ported most of its apps will be ported on the n900, now isn't thAT NICE, fifa10 on the n900, or nfs shift, or PES, or google MAPS, or shazam, or ovi maps 3.3, or a youtube client with hd videos support.....
now all what we should do is wait, i mean the n900 is just tooo damm good to drop it for an android or a symbian^3, if u want to get android get nitdroid, its full time os now.

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Anyone got new opinion about this topic now? Is symbian^3 open enough to be ported? Is it possible or not? Will it be harder than porting android or easier? Anybody interested/about to do the job?

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symbian (s60v5/^3/^4) didn't support screen res more than
640x360

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Symbian^4 will.

Greetings.

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Symbian on N900? curse upon you all.

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ok, as for some apps, and ovi maps with free voice guidance navigation would be nice, but come on, people with lamborghinis and ferraris don't buy another honda or nissan as a second car..... (no offence symbian, but maemo rulls ! )
back at symbian.org, they said that its very very possible, some drivers can cause some problems, but they can be rewrote .
maemo 5 and android are great now.

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Only some stupid person would do it! (Not saying you are stupid... But if you do it, you actually are)
It's like the other tricks I don't like... Running Windows and Mac and Android... Well, Android is at least a bit better than the other two!

But seriously, what are you thinking about? You've bought a device, with maybe the best OS in the world on it (Yes, the best! Because Maemo is Debian-based)... Don't you think it's a bit funny to get rid of it and install Symbian?

This was as much as I could help... I dunno any way for doing that, but I'm sure it's possible, as N900 can do anything!

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Dual boot, no thanks.
Virtual machine running on top of M*o, yes thanks.

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The best OS... ok,but what if you want THAT app that is not available for the "best OS"? There are 4 main approaches there: port it (must be open source for that, or whoever makes it do the port), create another with the functionality you need from the first one, have an emulator for the OS that runs it (i.e. the Palm OS emulator), or have the other OS in double boot (works for Android apps in good part).

That we are able to have samples of the 4 approachs is something that speaks very well for the N900. Having the possibility of installing Symbian (^3, ^4, or older ones) in emulated or double-boot way only enrichs the platform and broadens the amount of available apps.

Anyway, one thing is wishful thinking and another doing the hard work.

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Personally I wouldn't mind having Symbian^3 as an alternative. It adds to the wow factor of course. I am currently dual-booting android and maemo. I use Maemo all the time. It is superior to Android in nearly all ways (in my opinion). At this point I only boot Android for games, and go back to Maemo for anything else.

In my opinion Maemo is superior to iOS, Android, Symbian, Windows Mobile, BB OS and Palm OS. But would I like to triple-quadruple-whatever boot all of them? Would I like the possibility to use different OSes and interfaces without having to pay anything? Yes I would. I don't think I dont't think I would ever consider switching completely from Maemo. But it wouldn't hurt to have the liberty of using other OSes. I say port anything you can. It only adds to possibilites, not reduces existing ones.

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Exactly, there's nothing wrong in having one more os in the list! If someone don't want it its fine, he/she don't even need to check this topic or related stuffs but lot will, at least, try it play with it. If somebody think he/she can port it and want to try then why to stop, but if there's no one who can or want to then ok, we'll leave it for later. I am sure, 50 million dollar competition for n8 will definately flood n8 with superb quality apps (and games) and if similar contest would have been held for n900, we could have got the best of the best of the best apps than any other platform got because of the power of os and hardware. And we won't have to wait to see some useful app that we had on our previous platform and then porting android, ubuntu, maemo, symbian and emulating palm wouldn't have been of much interest as is today. But as someone said, app roles device and if we don't have much choices of apps, virtually the power of maemo and the hardware is kind of waste. When someone asks for game then one will answer to get emulators but almost all smartphone platform got those emulators and yet we need it due to jacke of native games. Now see we are porting 8bit game emulator but not symbian?

Bottomline is there's a sticky topic ".... We need more apps....". It explains all, it is the reason.

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don't know abot open enough or not but good enough, so many apps that my network provider has on symbian that can be used on maemo (android though)

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best OS but not good enough to use, some kids may get kick out of it wrtting their own code but for how long, bring on symbian to n900 and prove the point that n900 is the best, runs all os.

also, thinking buying the best car useless if there are no roads to drive on.

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

but it feels good to have the fastest twin turbo car on the roads.
i know nokia did cut our road, but the maemo5 tweakers here got us the best road we can ever have.
yes bringing symbian to the n900 is what needed to prove that its the best mate.

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whew! Chill guys... This is the alternatives forum what topics would we expect here? 'how to dual boot maemo and maemo?' @.@ its just normal for people to ask here for other OS cause they want an alternative not replacement OS

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From a poor hobby developer point of view the ability to dual-boot Maemo/Meego/Symbian/Android would be awesome. No need to get multiple hundreds of € devices when you could do all testing on one device.

Perhaps using the N900 qemu emulator that is used for Meego work, a Symbian hacker would probably get it up and running fairly quickly, as symbian can already be run on the beagleboard.

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I do find myself extremely useful to be able to boot Symbian on the N900, I don't know how has this thread going to that kind of discussion.

We are here because we love to do all kind of nerd thing with our N900, such as booting Ubuntu, Fedora, Meego, NeoPwn, Nitdroid,....

Why not Symbian?

Now, trying to return to the subject... has anyone tried to compile latest Symbian from sources?

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Since Symbian doesnt use a Linux-ish way of booting, we have u-boot. Not a long time since it was released, but u-boot works. (At least boots)

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since the n900 hardware is practically identical to new symbian 3 devices
i think this is the os we need for people who needs more apps and more smooth ui

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

There are things that Symbian does that my N900 doesn't do*.

An emu running in Maemo (for me) would be the best, because I would then have the best of both os's.

I'm not a developer or programmer or anything like that, more of an advanced end user...
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* Music I have gotten "free" with older N series phones won't play because of DRM, if I had a Symbian emu then I should be able to.

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DRM virtually always requires something that can't be easily supplied via an emulator, usually a hardware key or token. Basically, DRM is a source only of problems, and this is one of them ;)

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Symbian will never happen on N900.

Official Meego (you know, with proper UI and apps and stuff) will never happen on N900.

In Nokias mind, the N900 does not exist.

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we really need a "delete troll" button..... on tmo

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Symbian3 on N900 LMAO. this thread must be the biggest joke this week....

Give me one reason why? apps I dont think soo...

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You are just saying this cos you are quite young around here.... :P

I feel bad for those who joined on the 770 times...

Re: Symbian^3 on N900
 

Not so crazy, even the Symbian forum talks about it.
http://developer.symbian.org/forum/s...ead.php?t=5008