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onutz 2010-02-25 14:13

Why is Apple against porn
 
Porn doesn't really make money; this is the post: http://utestme.com/2010/02/25/apples...pple-ban-porn/

gtessier00 2010-02-25 14:21

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Well I don't know why they call a nipple ''porn'', that's kinda exagerated, but yeah it must be a good decision from them. We all know Apple's way of doing things and if they want to keep that sleek brand image, for sure they won't make ads with nudity in them, which could lead to angry customers.
Some people don't need to much to be shocked...

tycho 2010-02-25 14:24

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Apple are hypocrites looking for media headlines. The Safari browser is the biggest porn app on the iPhone.

toto29820 2010-02-25 15:01

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
their market is focused on hoodie teenage ppl their parents feels better to give $$ out if apple claims that and they wont care about removeable bat or camera flash or keyboard as long as it looks cool and carry no porn

magnuslu 2010-02-25 15:04

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Isn't it because it is classified as a toy??

afaq 2010-02-25 15:09

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
is it because the ipad wont be able to play most of the porn out there(most use flash as most video sites too)?
then again the sites could easy develop an apple friendly version of their site.

but thats probably not why. they probably would rather open up a new adult channel on their i-tunes and sell it. apple dont want you to enjoy the web/mobile/entertainment experience without paying them.

Scharel 2010-02-25 15:10

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
because it's an american company, here in europe we call this censureship
it's just possible and acceptable because it's a company and not an administration

daperl 2010-02-25 15:19

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Eve ate the apple and then knew she was naked. This was a good thing.

jsa 2010-02-25 15:41

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
@onutz

IMHO your stated reasons are really far fetched. A ton of existing iPhone applications are just frontends to different web services and the developers do make money, so why would a frontend to a porn service not serve the same purpose? Financially it would make no difference to Apple whether the money comes from a porn app or a productivity app, except porn apps would probably sell more. :)

It's a brand issue. The impression I have is that in the US holds quite a double standard when it comes to porn. They produce an insane amount of it yearly, but it's still somewhat of a taboo in the collective publics eye. Apple wants to avoid scandalous headlines that could smear the polished brand.

onutz 2010-02-25 15:46

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
@jsa
well, I'd say because porn sells by itself, whilst all the others need communication.
Or maybe I'm just wrong; but 5000 porn apps is something! I'd like to see OVI selling at least one sexy / porn app first...

Correction: I'd like to see OVI just selling

zerojay 2010-02-25 15:48

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Apple doesn't like porn because Steve Jobs is asexual.

kevloral 2010-02-25 15:55

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Are violent applications allowed?

slender 2010-02-25 15:58

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Btw. On n900 there is no obstacles to establish your own porn app repository where you sell your apps.

onutz 2010-02-25 17:00

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
BTW, what do you say, if it'd have benn Nokia instead of Apple, would they have removed those apps from Ovi store?

ysss 2010-02-25 17:13

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Obviously porn won't be a profitable commodity to their primary target demographics. It may open up iTunes to some more segments (pervs) at the cost of losing their family-friendly image, which is their primary audience.

Being a business, I'm sure they're still trying to figure out ways to peddle adult materials through their infrastructure without affecting their main revenues.

DaveP1 2010-02-25 17:16

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevloral (Post 546037)
Are violent applications allowed?

In America a brief picture of Janet Jackson's nipple (cf. Superbowl Wardrobe Malfunction) is a huge deal with far too many people while a picture of someone shot or stabbed in the breast is no problem at all.

I won't inject religion here but feel free to draw your own conclusions as to where this fundamentally stems from.

P.S. I don't need porn apps when my N810 can browse porn sites with little fear of malware. Who'd bother writing a MicroB virus? :p

ysss 2010-02-25 17:21

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onutz (Post 546145)
BTW, what do you say, if it'd have benn Nokia instead of Apple, would they have removed those apps from Ovi store?

If Nokia is in the same predicament as Apple, I believe they will do the same. Here are the variables:

- A running shop with 150,000 titles; mostly rated G.
- 75+ millions (?) iPhones & iPod Touchs sold, with a good percentage already tied to active iTunes account.
- Significant chunk of their demographic cares about family-friendly content.

Due to the existing family-friendly situation, I'm guessing most underaged iphone/touch owners will not have parental restriction enabled on their devices.

DaveP1 2010-02-25 17:42

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
One thing that should be noted is that "family friendly" takes a back seat to "profit" when the relationship is between Apple and a big publisher. The last time I read about this, the Playboy app and the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit app were still available.

onutz 2010-02-25 19:30

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
I think people have nipples anyway, thing is not to redirect too much focus and revenue

gerbick 2010-02-25 19:38

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kevloral (Post 546037)
Are violent applications allowed?

Yep.

But as it stands, the removal of the "porn" apps from the Apple iTunes store, all 5000 of them were widely complained about by the fairer sex.

livefreeordie 2010-02-25 19:49

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 546173)
If Nokia is in the same predicament as Apple, I believe they will do the same.

I believe Nokia would do the same too, but that's exactly why we need to support Free platforms. If a business is risking a boycott by allowing "objectionable" apps, then its duty to its shareholders is to remove them. It is not the place of a business to make moral judgments.

But it's definitely a bad direction for society to go if anything that a vocal group of people finds bad is made hard to acquire. The censorship nutters will invariably win with the Apple model. Nokia has sidestepped the whole issue by not positioning itself as the sole gatekeeper to its devices.

And this is why we must make sure Nokia wins.

Laughingstok 2010-02-27 06:21

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
That's why you make your homemade porn with the N900 :D

UNderworld 2010-03-02 12:35

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
apple is for kids, and kids dont watch porn...
ever heard of the sayig: an apple a day keeps the doctor away ....

now its: an apple a day keeps the pornstar away

jreznik 2010-03-02 12:56

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Thanks god(s) I live in one of the most atheistic country in the world! But from what I know - they didn't ban it entirely but just moved to other repo, did they? Last time I checked iPhone/Android repositories, it was full of these useless apps so I understand it as cleanup.

UNderworld 2010-03-02 13:15

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
if they remove these apps, appstore will no longer be famous for having millions of apps.... and counting

ysss 2010-03-02 13:36

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
FUD much? :)

tso 2010-03-02 14:21

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by afaq (Post 545942)
then again the sites could easy develop an apple friendly version of their site.

many already have...

Duffer 2010-03-05 14:36

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Someone should make a risqué/porno app for the N900 just to get one-up on the iPhone.

Fargus 2010-03-05 14:40

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onutz (Post 546145)
BTW, what do you say, if it'd have benn Nokia instead of Apple, would they have removed those apps from Ovi store?

Is that why Angry Birds level pack disappeared? Assume that would be becuase of the inherent violence then? :D

RevdKathy 2010-03-06 17:03

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fargus (Post 556905)
Is that why Angry Birds level pack disappeared? Assume that would be becuase of the inherent violence then? :D

You know, I did have a problem with the violence in 'angry birds'. But I got over it. Interesting cultural statement about killing pigs, though...

N900 doesn't need porn. It has bears.

superg05 2010-03-12 11:08

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by magnuslu (Post 545930)
Isn't it because it is classified as a toy??

yes exactly apple product or for simple children

ysss 2010-03-14 02:49

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
I was browsing around some other news blogs and found this comment and others similar to it in response to an article about iPad's preorder:

Quote:

SUSAN E#####
SATURDAY, MARCH 13 2010

Just ordered 4 iPads. Woohoo! They’re for the children, it will be a great learning device for them as they can’t be bothered with a full OS at their age. I also know several other mothers who should be ordering multiple iPads shortly. We have a lot of faith in Steve and know this will be a great device and who knows maybe I will be using it more than the kids. Cheers.
This is precisely the reason Apple is doing all that feet shuffling against porn and it seems that they're reaping the reward already.

Crogge 2010-03-14 03:29

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
http://turbo.inquisitr.com/wp-conten...x-app-shop.jpg

Well I really like Nokia because they are supporting porn with a nice HD display and a TV-out, thanks! Another advantage is that you can watch directly your selfmade amateur porn in widescreen :o

So in my opinion the N900 should be the porn phone of the year!

Seriously I don't get at all what they have against some porn, they show movies on the iPhone where people get killed slowly, heads get cut and hundreds of people die. That's in my opinion way more worse then some porn. What do you think?


P.S: Smoku please don't post gay porn again :(

Crogge 2010-04-15 03:56

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
I really don't get why http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48336&page=19 got closed, who actually felt offended by that thread oO? Isn't the N900 a open phone for everyone?

ysss 2010-04-15 04:05

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Crogge (Post 611219)
I really don't get why http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=48336&page=19 got closed, who actually felt offended by that thread oO? Isn't the N900 a open phone for everyone?

I think you can find the answer here:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32513

azz 2010-04-15 04:18

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
porn on apple device mean no profit for app store....

maxximuscool 2010-04-15 04:21

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Apple got a Nano-penis?

Ken-Young 2010-04-15 04:41

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onutz (Post 546022)
@jsa
well, I'd say because porn sells by itself, whilst all the others need communication.
Or maybe I'm just wrong; but 5000 porn apps is something! I'd like to see OVI selling at least one sexy / porn app first...

What about Little Snow Fairy Sugar? Isn't that porn of some kind?

Bec 2010-04-17 11:08

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
Apple isn't against anything if it gets them advertising and popularity.

aliulazeem 2010-06-16 22:12

Re: Why is Apple against porn
 
how can i watch porn online? any web


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