The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

I'm sure this has been said 100x before on this site and all over the 'net, but I'll say it again because, like advertising, sometimes repetition is the key to getting heard.

I love the N900. I can't wait to get one. In fact, our household will probably get 3 of them.

But we aren't going to get one while there is so much uncertainty surrounding the N900 software. Maemo 5 updates ? Maemo 6 ? Meego ? Who knows ?

And that is the problem. Who does know ?

I'm sure someone at Nokia knows what is going on with the N900 software. But until that is CLEARLY communicated to the community and we see support and an upgrade path for the N900, I have no choice but to consider it a pre production idea (experiment ?) that somehow made it to production, which will soon be abandoned.

Should you want to move the N900 ship forward, I recommend some very clear communication plus a large, large dose of community involvement in a truly open source development effort. If you want an example of how this should work, look no further than Fedora.

Until then, I, and others, will remain firmly planted on the sidelines.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

So you think that the users of this community hasn't heard it enough?

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

So basically what you say is: "Hey mister Nokia - my new thread is nothing like all the other threads about this specific matter, because this one is made by ME!"...?

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

I wish there was a way to deduct thanks for every useless and redundant thread that is created.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

Guys instead of whining about posts that other persons do, maybe you should be glad that these posts give visibility to us. If you don't think that Nokia people check this forums, you're wrong.
And seeing the number of posts you got, I deduct that you don't come here so often so that guy's post shouldn't irritate you, right?

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

As has been said here and elsewhere before probably 100x...

Nokia people have publicly stated in several ways that the N900 and its owners will not be forgotten. Significant updates and improvements are definitely on the way. But whether these are improvements to Maemo 5 or a full upgrade to Maemo 6/MeeGo has not been determined.

However, whether or not the N900 stays on Maemo 5 or gets a 'full' OS upgrade is not the important thing. From an end user point of view, what really matters is that the N900/Maemo 5 gets upgraded to Qt 4.6, which WILL happen soon, maybe even in the next few days. That ensures basic compatibility with apps for MeeGo, Symbian, etc - anything written from now on with Qt 4.6. And that compatibility ensures the N900 of much more software to come and a long, productive life.

So if the N900 suits your needs, get one and enjoy it.

Much more info regarding upgrades here: http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_realistically_expect

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

+1
If N900 meets your needs - buy it.
If it does not - don't buy it.

As simple as this. There is no point in whining and writing pointless ultimatums on forums.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

I've been hearing the Maemo 5 update promise since before Christmas. That is the sort of thing I am talking about.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

I'll bet they've been working on it since even before you heard about it. They haven't told you when you'll get it, just that you will.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

We live in a fuzzy world, surrounded by uncertainty. The only way to avoid that is to not do anything. Just buy your N900 and appreciate it and adjust to whatever happens, or don't buy it and forget it.

Nokia does things the way Nokia does things. We don't always like it, but they have come up with some cool technology. You should just accept the situation and go forward.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

You should download PR 1.1 and 1.1.1. Both released since before christmas.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

As if Nokia cared if you're waiting, whining or picking your nose. And if i was Nokia i wouldn't either, so enjoy the sidelines while i'm laying in bed, reading useless threads and typing this sh*t on my N900.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

Let's see:

• You joined the forum 3 months ago
• You don't possess an N900
• The bulk of your postings concern a protracted decision to get an N900
• You threw down an ultimatum in a public Forum to a large corporation to continue doing what you're already doing (i.e. not possessing their product)

I can appreciate that the "should I buy an N900?" question is a vexing one: The N900 is in a class by itself. It's got killer hardware, but a smaller ecosystem around it than competitors. It's got awesome potential, but Nokia's betting heavily on users to exploit it's potential by creating their own apps (thereby filling the ecosystem gap w/ competitors). And, it's also based on a very different philosophy than competing products. A philosophy that says, in part, you don't need 1 million apps in an online store because many of those would just replicate what you ought to do (and can do) in a browser on the N900.

I myself hemmed/hawed about getting one. A nail-biting experience I made worse for myself by trying to game the distribution system in order to get the earliest-possible delivery & lowest-possible price for it. [DELL @ $475, BTW]. Anyone nostalgic for those crazy days in this community can revisit my original post "Did Your N900 Ship Today?"

So hear me when I tell you:

I've been there.

It's just a phone.

You can return it if it doesn't meet your needs (or you find it cheaper elsewhere within 14 days of purchase <ahem>, <cough>, <nudge></nudge>.

But the decision to buy is yours, not Nokia's. Read the posts in this community from the VERY COMMITTED Nokia folks here. They and their colleagues are clearly working hard to execute on a distinct (and user-oriented) vision for a mobile device. They're trying to carve out a unique place in the market for that philosophy, and not occupy some 'me too' slot like LG, Samsung, HP, Motorola, etc.

You're clearly attracted to the N900 as evidenced by your presence and posts here. And I imagine your hesitation simply stems from the N900 being different. Possessing one might require moving out of your comfort zone a little (unless you're already a QT dev or NIT enthusiast).

Again, it's a phone, not a commitment for life.

So your decision really boils down to this:

Do you want to take the risk in buying it, experimenting with it for 2 weeks, and finding out if it satisfies you or not?

If it does, great. Join the club.

If it doesn't, it won't be because "Nokia betrayed me!" (a frame of mind many seem all too ready to adopt). It will be because the experiment of owning an N900 helped clarify your preferences & needs for a mobile device. That's certainly why I sold my N810 after only a few months (I wanted something more like the N900, which I dig more and more each day).

So make your decision already, and let us know how your experiment goes.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

Its not all its made out to be.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

spamming this ridiculous ******** only makes it harder for nokia employees to find anything useful here....

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

I just read the following and I think it is relevant for you and the many people who have posted about Nokia's handling of the N900:


H'mmm some of those^ issues sound familiar.

Looks like your ball is also in Android's court too! :)

BTW: linux total market share 7.3%, and of that there are 6 or 7 different active fedora cores. :confused:

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

Anyway, until an eyewitness says, "Yes, we put that thread about "Nokia, the ball is in your court" up on the bulletin board and everyone at the company read it", I'm going to assume threads of this nature are virtually ignored. If they weren't, the folks at Nokia would go insane. They have a lot of balls in a lot of courts.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

We were never promised the things you're asking for, they aren't obligated to give it to us.

Make your decision based on what we know we'll get or already have, anything more is just a bonus. Don't whine for answers to questions that people have been asking for months.

I don't know where you get your glorious sense of self entitlement but it needs to go.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

[If it doesn't, it won't be because "Nokia betrayed me!" (a frame of mind many seem all too ready to adopt). It will be because the experiment of owning an N900 helped clarify your preferences & needs for a mobile device.

Yes... it's because "Nokia betrayed me!". Having never owned a Nokia device before, to give me something that is FAR beyond what any other company is willing to give me, is obviously just NOT ACCEPTABLE. Owning the N900 means I'm separated from the herd, DAMMIT I'M A FREAK!!!

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

I undertand your uncertainty about the future of the N900. I purchsaed mine two weeks before the anouncment of the software and updates. I decided to keep it and go for it anyway (hoping for this best:confused:). You can't go wrong with it compaired with other smartphones on the market. This is the furture! Compare it to any other and the N900 wins hand down in its current state!

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

Maemo 5 life span isn't all that bad... the fact is:

1) There will be at least 2 more updates to Maemo 5. And PR1.2 is the major updates that will bring forth enhanced features across the system.

2) Many people talk about Harmattan/Meego as if these platforms are going to be launched tomorrow. However, the release date for Harmattan is Q4 the last time I heard. Meego might be available sooner but a consumer version of Meego is never going to happen in Q2... in any case, Maemo 5 will become a mature platform that can run some of the software for Harmattan/Meego by the time these platforms become available.

For me the biggest concern is the crappy OVI Store discouraging commercial developers from giving Maemo 5 a chance. This will not be changed by Maemo 6, Meego, whatever. For a platform that has relatively limited user base, having a central channel is more critical than Symbian.

For me, it's ok that Maemo 5 doesn't do everything well (e.g. Exchange, Navi). In some way, the community has been like a life support for the Maemo project. However, discouraging commercial developers is like committing suicides for the platform at this stage.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

Out of hand once again.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

Believe me, I tried.

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

s/nokia employees/anyone/

Re: The ball is in your court, Nokia. I'm waiting...
 

Dude just buy one they are great the best phone i have ever had and its amazing how clever some people are out there to design programmes and apps that easily out shadow any stupid iphone and android ones. If you dont buy a n900 leave this forum it is not for you.