Nokia: MeeGo "door is not closed" on N900
 

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Bottom line says everything.

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Was just going to post this. People are so fast to jump on things here.

Only thing we can do is wait and the real thing will come as actual announcement.

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Yep, and it ain't open either. Like the author says, another long game of wait and see.

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I guess "The N900 is not upgradable to MeeGo" is just helpdesk speak for "WTF is MeeGo???"
It doesn't mean anything besides the Nokia employee quoted on CNET being clueless about MeeGo.

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And while this page is a really good repository of information, can you point out the parts of it from which an average end user (i.e. not a developer) can take heart?

this isn't a challenge by the way, I just can't see the parts of it that actually mean something for me (as an average user).

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That info's in the section linked-to, the answer is:

"That said, please do not take this yet as a commitment to fully productise MeeGo on N900. I am quite confident that we will end up having a really good developer distro for N900 already but committing to stabilise a consumer-grade MeeGo 1.0 (first half this year) for N900 is another story. That is a product business decision beyond my scope. Also, we do not yet know about MeeGo 1 release content. I am not yet sure if I would be personally ready to let my Maemo5 go for the first MeeGo release in my daily N900 use."

In other words, the chance of a consumer-ready flavour of meego on the n900 (at least anytime soon) is slim, what's coming are semi-functioning developer-use-only installs. Whether a consumer release comes soon or atall depends on managery executivy types, not developers.

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ah, yeah, I read that bit. Had thought that there was a trick I was missing.

Now that We have an official Word
 

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/16/n...losed-on-n900/
Is this source trustworthy enough to clear all the "FUD"
Doesnt still prove n900 is getting meego but a stable distro is fine by me

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http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...099#post569099

two threads same topic, any chance of combining the two?

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So, we are back to the beginning... we do not know if it will come or not. Not that I care that much as I like Maemo 5 so far comming from N800 but on the other sinde: it would be quite cool to own the first mobile (device/phone what ever) where you can choose between more than 1 official OS ;-)

Glasswalker

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I'm not quite sure why the "average user" is so concerned about MeeGo appearing on the n900.

Maemo 5 & the n900 is still a very capable combination.
New applications seem to be appearing daily on the "Download" page here at maemo.org.

As a software developer myself I will certainly still write software for the n900 and maemo. There is still plenty of life in it yet.

Personally I expect the absolute minimum time I'll have my n900 will be 2 years. I imagine many owners will feel the same - especially for the price (£500).

I've owned the n900 since December 2009 and from day one have found it to be extremely useful. I use it on a daily basis and installed a collection of applications that are invaluable to me.

I don't see how the non-existence of MeeGo is holding back the n900. The "development" version of MeeGo probably will not be usable for a typical user for many months yet. Nokia won't support it which means it won't have Nokia-written applications or branding installed but there is the freedom to install community-written applications instead.

So no "official" Nokia developed version of MeeGo but a community-developed version instead.

There are hundreds of Linux-based distributions available for PCs that are a mixture of commercial and community developed versions.
The same thing hopefully will be the same for MeeGo - some people may even fork MeeGo and develop alternate versions of it.


When the 1.2 firmware update is finally released, the QT libraries will make the transition between maemo and a MeeGo device much easier.

The worse case scenario is the n900 never gets a "stable" release of MeeGo.

So what?

It does not mean it stops becoming a useful device.

I have a lot of faith in the community and suspect MeeGo will appear on the n900 - Nokia's blessing or permission is not needed. If Nokia wants to offiicially support it then great even better.

For me the only concern are the proprietory drivers that are present on the n900. If they remain closed and no open source version is ever available then the n900 will never receive a fully-functional version of MeeGo - unless Nokia either release the full specs of the hardware or release the source code of the drivers or make linkable firmware binary blobs.

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Wow for once the Engadget commenters are making sense. Arguably they are making more sense than many of the posters here!

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and engadget credited me this time.

That explains all the comment spam on my blog.

:rolleyes:

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jesus. why is a Decision so hard??????? lol

HTC HD2 Getting Windows Mobile 7 Upgrade - heard about this in 09 way before win7 was ready.


this is doing my head in. people are forgetting how amazing maemo5 is, not voting for apps and everything seems to have slowed down waayy to much

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Sorry i have been a bit confused about the HD2 and WM7 thing, but wasn't it just announced that HD2 wont be getting WM7?

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HTC HD2 will be left out for an upgrade. my bad. this is still doing my head in anyway lol

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I know this is the wrong thread....but i really dont understand why people like windows mobile and the htc hd2. Other than the large screen size i really dont understand what windows mobile has to offer?
So whatmare the adfantages of win mobile over maemo?

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/off topic

It's the customization and shells you can get for it. Like mobile shell and touchflo. With 4-7% market share and small community it was still pretty active one.
When it comes to HD2 that device is really fast, good hardware(apart of the camera) and great support example for videos.

I was a Symbian guy when it was Symbian vs WM and always been looking to be able to make the device your own. WM was better at this, but then just as important was that the UI follows same guidelines everywhere and a feel that it's tied to the the hardware somehow.
WM felt like a PDA UI that was slapped to a different hardwares.

Maemo to me got so much of the basics just like i want. It's PC like, but it's all tied nicely to it's own like UI and community driven. That of course doesn't means that example Nokia here should get it easy. It should support the OS just as much as if it would not be community driven.

Thought i buy 1-2 phones every year so to me that the HW continues to live isn't that important, but apps need to be carried over.

MeeGo on the N900 - NOKIA: The door is NOT closed
 

Thought I would add the contrarian link:

http://tinyurl.com/ye2rles

Engadget appears to have done some REAL research made some contact (Ray Haddow, Senior Manager within Nokia Communications ) and found some info that is not a direct "NOT gonna happen" from real people with names and everything...sigh maybe this will quiet down some of the MeeGo is not coming to the n900 stuff or not...

Sure it is not a definitive answer but it is not the vague garbage that was published yesterday.

Enjoy!

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maybe is the app cloud. You have a lot to try and download,

maybe is the official support. A LOT of devices are using them, so official updates are something common.

maybe is because they dont like something so complex as maemo. the best that maemo have is that is a linux, so you can do a lot of thnigs, and beak it in a lot of ways. on a mobile phone, you are limited to a subset of both.

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As Valtteri says:

"Also, we do not yet know about MeeGo 1 release content. I am not yet sure if I would be personally ready to let my Maemo5 go for the first MeeGo release in my daily N900 use. Let's see."

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Ughhhh...SORRY...feel free to Merge...Just looked at the active topic and neglected the Harmattan section...

Although with all the negative replica posts a replica not terrible news isn't a complete bad thing! LOL

Re: MeeGo on the N900 - NOKIA: The door is NOT closed
 

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=47513

along with the thread posted by ysss

The thread "MeeGo on the N900 - NOKIA: The door is NOT closed" with five posts has been merged into this thread.

The thread "Now that We have an official Word" with eleven posts has been merged into this thread.

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Finally somebody was able to get an official answer from a Nokia PR. Just don't understand why Nokia didn't come out and say this right when Meego was announced, it would have avoided A LOT of FUD!!!!

I am glad to see they are considering an official Meego upgrade for N900. Now, could users do something to reinforce Nokia perception that Meego on N900 is really worthy to keep the loyalty of its early adopters? I am not talking about any rebellions or "never buy a Nokia device again" crap... just address the proper customer care channel.

I know there are Nokia employees like @qgil and the Maemo council who could pass the feedback from this forum to Nokia, but I am not sure if this is the best way. Also, their priorities may be different from N900 owners, since their role is to make Meego a competitive Linux-based platform on various devices. Don't take this comment as if they don't care about Meego on N900, just that it may not be their responsibility.

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Don't you people have better things to do

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The attention my blog gets whenever there's anything controversial suggests that about 5,000 people are interested in N900s. Or maybe just the controversy. :D

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Controversy always had more appeal.... Just check wallpapers/tabloids!! :D

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I would like to be installing PR1.2 on my N900 right now.... I bet it will cease all speculation when it is deployed, if not forever at least for a couple of hours!! :p

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Nokia CEO Kallasvuo on Bloomberg + couple interesting video interview about Nokia and its future http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=adYA2Q31tWmY

Re: MeeGo on the N900 - NOKIA: The door is NOT closed
 

Seriously, that's what Jaaksi, Quim, Peter, Konttori etc. have been saying here all along. They have said it many times, before and after Meego was announced.

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I understand they statements were something similar to "N900 will benefit from Meego due to application availability using Qt4.6". I know they need to be careful with their posts to avoid false hope, but my interpretation was that the decision about Meego on N900 was already made. Maybe that was just me being paranoid, but the statement for Engadget at least give it more credibility.

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Your comment just inspired me to make a change to my blog.

http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com...maybe-a-patch/

;)

And everyone inspired me to add something that was missing to the article involved here:

http://tabulacrypticum.wordpress.com...esponsibility/