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scotty_m 2010-03-22 14:33

No firmware update on Vodafone
 
It looks as though PR1.1.1 is available in the UK and there have been people on Vodafone saying they have upgraded. I have also checked on the Vodafone E-Forum and there is a post from them saying to enjoy the new firmware so I thought that it would be available for all customers. Has anyone using Vodafone (direct from them, not carphone warehouse or similar) upgraded? I've looked through the other threads for firmware and not really any clear ideas of what is happening. I'd rather not have to re-flash to the global version

noobmonkey 2010-03-22 14:42

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Scotty, please check all of the previous posts on this, as there are many :D

There are two types of firmware in the UK .203 and.205
.203 - the general firmware, that came with most of the earlier devices, most of which have vodafone sims. The upgrade is working for these people.

.205 The vodafone specific firware that is normally gotten through a specific vodafone contract direct from vodafone. (I may stand corrected on here).

Nokia / vodafone are not releasing details of why ... but i'm pretty sure they will get an update at some point.

if you are unhappy with the state of things, there is nothing stopping you flashing your device to a worldwide or UK generic firmware version. (Except possibly warranty, but you can always flash back!)

Anyway, have a search through the other posts :D

edit :) - i flashed fine a month or so ago - was quite simple :D

DJRedline 2010-03-22 14:53

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty_m (Post 577187)
It looks as though PR1.1.1 is available in the UK and there have been people on Vodafone saying they have upgraded. I have also checked on the Vodafone E-Forum and there is a post from them saying to enjoy the new firmware so I thought that it would be available for all customers. Has anyone using Vodafone (direct from them, not carphone warehouse or similar) upgraded? I've looked through the other threads for firmware and not really any clear ideas of what is happening. I'd rather not have to re-flash to the global version

I have commented a few times on the E-Forum regarding the firmware and asking why it hasn't appeared yet for those on the 205 variant.

I gave up waiting and flashed to global version this afternoon. Everything is the same and no issues have arisen yet.

scotty_m 2010-03-22 14:55

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Thanks. I've been searching and looking at the other posts on this and only really asked because Vodafone themselves stated on their forums that the firmware had been released by them so just wanted to check with other Vodafone users, but i could have just posted in one of those other threads. Oh well no problem, just wait a bit longer - am used to that from the openpandora.org forums!

noobmonkey 2010-03-22 14:58

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty_m (Post 577219)
Thanks. I've been searching and looking at the other posts on this and only really asked because Vodafone themselves stated on their forums that the firmware had been released by them so just wanted to check with other Vodafone users, but i could have just posted in one of those other threads. Oh well no problem, just wait a bit longer - am used to that from the openpandora.org forums!

hehe, yeah the annoying thing is lack of communication but you could insert any large company name into this issue :(

Doesnt help that it's probably Nokia and Vodafone and probably others involved.

Mad-Halfling 2010-05-04 20:38

PR1.1.1 UK Release
 
Hi, can I pick people's brains quickly please? Has PR1.1.1 been released in the UK yet? I am really confused over this as my mate has had it updated OTA via the update manager, and some pages on the Nokia site list this (V3.2010.02.8) as the latest version for my phone, but other pages, and my operator, list PR1.1 (V2.2009.51.1) as the latest software version.
As I mentioned, my mate seems to have 1.1.1 on his N900 on another operator's network, and he isn't technical or adventurous enough to update it himself via reflashing, so I suspect my operator is delaying releasing the update (they have their own version of the update), but I can't seem to confirm whether this is the case or whether Nokia haven't actually released the update to the UK?

*sob*
If anyone could enlighten me, I would be very much obliged.
Cheers
MH

w00t 2010-05-04 20:42

Re: PR1.1.1 UK Release
 
I never saw it via OTA, my fiancee did. She upgraded OTA, I reflashed, we're both running it.

kingzeus 2010-05-04 20:43

Re: PR1.1.1 UK Release
 
So far the latest version is V3.2010.02.8 this is posted here so many times

Mad-Halfling 2010-05-04 21:08

Re: PR1.1.1 UK Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingzeus (Post 643295)
So far the latest version is V3.2010.02.8 this is posted here so many times

I appreciate, and have seen that, but Vodafone are staunchly saying that it's 2.2009.51-1 (PR1.1, AFAIK) and this is sort-of backed up by this page on the Nokia site
http://europe.nokia.com/support/down...oftware-update
- if you select the N900 it says "Latest software release for Nokia N900 is 2.2009.51.1", but if I enter my EIN on a different Nokia page it lists 3.2010 so this is why I'm somewhat confused. Is there any official release notification from Nokia about 1.1.1 release?

bockersjv 2010-05-04 21:12

Re: PR1.1.1 UK Release
 
The Vodafone version of PR 1.1.1 has not yet been released in the UK AFAIK.

If you bought your phone direct from Vodafone (rather than buying from mobilephones direct or Nokia) then you will have to wait til Vf get their finger out. Which judging by the 5800 and N95 could be months or even years.

You can just change the product code and flash with the generic UK firmware but then you would miss out on all the Vf goodies ;)

bockersjv 2010-05-04 21:16

Re: PR1.1.1 UK Release
 
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=577221

Mad-Halfling 2010-05-05 12:35

Re: PR1.1.1 UK Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 643352)
The Vodafone version of PR 1.1.1 has not yet been released in the UK AFAIK.

If you bought your phone direct from Vodafone (rather than buying from mobilephones direct or Nokia) then you will have to wait til Vf get their finger out. Which judging by the 5800 and N95 could be months or even years.

You can just change the product code and flash with the generic UK firmware but then you would miss out on all the Vf goodies ;)

Thx, I know the VF one hasn't been released, but I was asking about the general PR1.1.1 - VF are denying all knowledge of it and aren't giving an ETA on their release. If I can get comfirmation that PR1.1.1 is out in the UK, I can at least poke them with it - I am rather concerned as I heard of a 4 month delay by VF in releasing N97 updates, and I fear that will shaft the N900 from installing updating a lot of new software.

As I'm sure you can imagine, this will become a large issue once PR1.2 is out, if we have a similar delay.

DJRedline 2010-05-05 12:43

Re: PR1.1.1 UK Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad-Halfling (Post 644436)
Thx, I know the VF one hasn't been released, but I was asking about the general PR1.1.1 - VF are denying all knowledge of it and aren't giving an ETA on their release. If I can get comfirmation that PR1.1.1 is out in the UK, I can at least poke them with it - I am rather concerned as I heard of a 4 month delay by VF in releasing N97 updates, and I fear that will shaft the N900 from installing updating a lot of new software.

As I'm sure you can imagine, this will become a large issue once PR1.2 is out, if we have a similar delay.

The general (or Global) version of PR1.1.1 has been out for ages now. The only provider that is still not to have released their version is Vodafone.

I am a Vodafone user and got fed up of waiting so have flashed to the Global version. I'm not missing anything from staying on the Voda firmware as there is no real difference/branding and they have confirmed on their forums that if you flash the firmware and aslong as it is an official release from Nokia it will not affect your warranty.

spanner 2010-05-05 12:45

Re: PR1.1.1 UK Release
 
From tablets-dev.nokia.com:

RX-51_2009SE_3.2010.02-8.203.1_PR_COMBINED_203_ARM.bin
171136705 bytes
PR 1.1.1
version 3.2010.02-8
Latest Maemo 5 UK variant for Nokia N900

Has been available since about March 25th (see talk in https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6878).
I never got the OTA update so flashed instead.

zombiegavins 2010-05-05 12:53

Re: PR1.1.1 UK Release
 
dammit i never realised that i didnt have the latest firmware, how do i go about reflashing to 1.1.1?

Rob1n 2010-05-05 12:55

Re: PR1.1.1 UK Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zombiegavins (Post 644471)
dammit i never realised that i didnt have the latest firmware, how do i go about reflashing to 1.1.1?

http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware

Neegs 2010-05-05 20:09

Re: PR1.1.1 UK Release
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zombiegavins (Post 644471)
dammit i never realised that i didnt have the latest firmware, how do i go about reflashing to 1.1.1?

WTF neither did i and i actually check this site all the time now

Just to be clear your telling me after all the wait for 1.2 i will not receive it until i reflash my device to a global firmware that my current carrier isnt supporting or claiming exists.:(

OMG seriously this isnt even Nokia's fault but im loosing the will i swear

casper27 2010-05-05 20:19

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
There was talk maybe confirmed maybe not I cannot remember now. Aparently Vodafone was delayed so long they decided to not update the interim firmware pr 1.1.1 and was just going with pr 1.2 when it comes out. I will search for a link.

Neegs 2010-05-05 20:42

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh link please

isnt 1.1.1 needed for 1.2. This is just my assumption or this could have been a previous update but i thought it had stuff in it that prepared for 1.2

i dunno as i say its getting a bit boring now and losing the will. this has actually ****ed me off. I know its not nokia fault but just aaaaskjdg;sag'sadknfgz.dg/zdgkn/adkgmnafdg\sddszg

ok calm now. could you provide the link if you find it :D

casper27 2010-05-05 20:56

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
A bit of searching reveiled
Only codes v3.20 is available for are below

0583566: RX-51 Australia
0582648: RX-51 Belgium
0584571: RX-51 Croatia Makedonia
0584572: RX-51 Czech
0591362: RX-51 Estonia
0574180: RX-51 France
0574383: RX-51 Germany
0591474: RX-51 Hungary
0583572: RX-51 Indonesia,Vietnam,Cambodia
0574385: RX-51 Italy
0582647: RX-51 MENA
0585168: RX-51 Montenegro Greece
0582645: RX-51 Netherlands
0583569: RX-51 Philippines
0582644: RX-51 Poland
0574386: RX-51 Russia
0574179: RX-51 Scandinavia Finland Sweden
0587236: RX-51 Scandinavia Norway Denmark
0583571: RX-51 Singapore
0584570: RX-51 Slovakia
0598090: RX-51 South-Asia(Nepal,Sri Lanka)
0582646: RX-51 South Africa
0574384: RX-51 Spain Portugal
0593709: RX-51 Switzerland
0599194: RX-51 Taiwan
0583568: RX-51 Thailand
0560826: RX-51 UK Ireland
0591467: RX-51 Ukraine
0580952: RX-51 USA

So does not include Vodafone UK variant. You will either have to wait for pr1.2 vodafone variant or update to global firmware.

Neegs 2010-05-05 21:33

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
the Desire is looking better everyday. that isnt really wat i want to here :(. I will wait for the flurry of 1.2 threads are finally here and see what happens. i really cant be assed to flash the device but guess i dont have a choice. ridiculous, im just gonna find a brick wall to smash my head against repeatedly

HughF_UK 2010-05-05 21:44

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
I'm on o2 with a sim free handset from expansys and I never received 1.1.1 ota so flashed it yesterday.

Simplicity itself mate, pull yer finger out and flash that badboy!

Neegs 2010-05-05 21:56

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
the use of badboy has just renewed my faith in the phone lol. No honestly that made me laugh lots not heard that term in a long while

like i said i dont have a choice so will wait and give it ago

Mad-Halfling 2010-05-06 12:53

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Me to, I think it's a great device, I'm just thoroughly pissed off with Vodafone not releasing the updates for it.

bockersjv 2010-05-06 13:39

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad-Halfling (Post 646346)
Me to, I think it's a great device, I'm just thoroughly pissed off with Vodafone not releasing the updates for it.

Then clearly you have not had a Vodafone Nokia Phone before. The Vodafone N95 updates was months behind the Nokia ones and for some bizare reason Vodafone deem it necessary to remove useful functions like video stabilisation:confused:

I would never ever buy a Vodafone branded phone again.

devu 2010-05-06 13:49

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Hi guys I am vodafone too... I mean I'm normal but... ;)

Did you get some new option in internet connections after re-flashed?
Because after 1st time I saw gprs and contract WAP second time as I see gprs only. Originally contract WAP only. Maybe here is a catch? they cheating with internet and 3gp. Because all seems to be working fine. Can be some cheat like they are giving us some rubbish internet under the hood.

zombiegavins 2010-05-06 13:53

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
how can i tell if my phone is vodafone branded, i know that sound dumb but it doesnt say vodafone anywhere on it although i did get it from them

bockersjv 2010-05-06 13:53

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Flashing is no big deal either. Have done mine a few times, the first time is a bit hairy but only becuase it felt like a big deal. Only takes 30mins and that includes re-install of all apps.

However don't expect much from PR1.1.1 I struggle to think of any improvment it made that affeccted me. Maybe browser speed was a little better :)

matts76 2010-05-06 13:54

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
im also on vodafone but ive flashed to the global firmware, and would recomend it to everyone, its well worth learning how to reflash your n900 out of choice rather than leaving it till you have to when something goes wrong.

bockersjv 2010-05-06 13:57

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zombiegavins (Post 646416)
how can i tell if my phone is vodafone branded, i know that sound dumb but it doesnt say vodafone anywhere on it although i did get it from them


If you got it from them then it will have their firmware. There might be a Vodafone live icon too :eek:

bockersjv 2010-05-06 14:13

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
1.1.1 is not a big change but is needed for 1.2

1.2 is a great improvement but doubt Nokia will have it for ages.

Also you will not loose and content unless you also flash the emmc which it is not necessary to do anyway.

My N900 was a little more reiable and browsing was a little quicker.

devu 2010-05-06 14:22

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Definitely do a backup using internal app. It's very handy to restore your apps settings and contacts.

Anyone can answer my question mentioned before?
What is the difference

Contract WAP
GPRS + Contract WAP
GPRS only

depend of numbers of flashing device

Do you have any issues with this?
Since I lost this labeled this way they might charge me for GPRS use?
Is not like vodafone cheating us with internet this way?

Thanks

Rob1n 2010-05-06 14:44

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 646423)
If you got it from them then it will have their firmware. There might be a Vodafone live icon too :eek:

No, the only apparent difference is the version string (in Settings/About product) has 205 towards the end rather than 203 (which is the generic UK code). There doesn't appear to be any branding, added icons, etc.

brigina 2010-05-06 14:50

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Can a VF Uk N900 that has been flashed to global firmware then be used with a sim other than VF?

Rob1n 2010-05-06 14:55

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devildriven (Post 646493)
Ok thank you. And that way i wouldnt have to rely on Voda UK having to release it too right? Thus allowing me to upgrade to 1.2 as soon as it's released?

Yes, if you flash either the global or generic UK variants (I've no idea what the actual differences are - nobody's pointed to anything concrete yet) then you'll get the PR1.2 update as soon as it's available (assuming the UK gets the update at the same time anyway - the PR1.1.1 update was a month behind, but the others were about in sync).

Rob1n 2010-05-06 14:56

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brigina (Post 646491)
Can a VF Uk N900 that has been flashed to global firmware then be used with a sim other than VF?

As far as I'm aware, you can use any SIM with any firmware - I've not seen any reports of any locking going on at the software level.

bockersjv 2010-05-06 15:20

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 646507)
As far as I'm aware, you can use any SIM with any firmware - I've not seen any reports of any locking going on at the software level.

Agree have not heard of locking BUT do not get firmware updating confused with unlocking. The two are different and should not be confused.

IMHO I would update to the generic 203 (non Vf) UK software. There are loads of Non VF bought phones legitimately (mine included) running this software and so it would prersent no warantee issues.


@devildriven As has been said above. Make sure you run a full back up to MicroSd Card. If you do not have a card do a back up to the N900 but save a copy of this to your PC as well, just to be safe.

I had to flash my replacement phone (USB socket fixed) received from nokia as it was on Pr1.0 Even after flashing the photos and music from the previous owner was still on there :O


@devu

Contract WAP
GPRS + Contract WAP
GPRS only

Where are you seeing these options? In Internet connection in settings?

My Vf pjone (provided by the Nokia store) only has the one non wi-fi option and it is - Vodafone Internet GPRS.
The settings for this are (assuming you have a data contract with Vf). -
access point name: Internet
user name: web
password :web (I think!)

Although I very much doubt you will need to do anything anyway. GPRS only should be fine.

bockersjv 2010-05-06 15:27

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devildriven (Post 646446)
Just so i don't get it wrong and as it will my first time would you be able to point me in the right direction please? :o

Have a read of the wiki:-
http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_firmware

Beware, you cannot Flash from a Windows 7 & 64bit PC
Windows 7 32bit works fine though but whatever system you are using follow the instructions to the letter. As I said it seems a bit daunting and scary at first, much like sex :D Practice safe flashing and do a back up first :D

Also make sure you battery has a decent charge before you begin.

Any problems come back here and ask.

matts76 2010-05-06 15:59

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bockersjv (Post 646423)
If you got it from them then it will have their firmware. There might be a Vodafone live icon too :eek:

yeah i got mine from cpw and it had the uk firmware on it, but even that seems to be behind the global one for firmware updates, or at least it was for pr 1.1.1, so i would recomend reflash either way.

Rob1n 2010-05-06 16:01

Re: No firmware update on Vodafone
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by devildriven (Post 646598)
Only thing i'm unsure about in the wiki is this..


6. Change the directory to the Flasher's path (TIP: Use the TAB key to auto-complete the commands and file-names)

cd "%ProgramFiles%\maemo\flasher-3.5"

1. Hold the u key on the device keyboard and connect the USB cable at the same time (see the Flasher documentation)
2. Run the following command:

flasher-3.5.exe -F RX-51_2009SE_2.2009.51-1_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin -f -R


After i enter each of those commands in do i have to hit enter? Also are the %'s supposed to be in there as well? :confused:

Yes, and yes. The "%ProgramFiles%" will get internally converted to "C:\Program Files", or whatever the local machine's set up for - this can be changed, so using the % gets around any local naming issues.


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