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brera 2010-03-27 07:17

Meego and Maemo dual boot on N900
 
it will be possible dual boot on N900 Maemo and MeeGo.
what do you thimk about this article...

http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/27/n...some-point-bu/

qgil 2010-03-27 07:24

Re: Meego and Maemo dual boot on N 900
 
Based on http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...433#post581433 - posted here 2 days ago. Please continue the discussion there.

AndrewG 2010-03-27 07:26

Re: Meego and Maemo dual boot on N 900
 
As it says in that article, it will be possible at some point. Just not right away.

kingoddball 2010-06-16 06:14

Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
Hi,
I'm after the help of something who has got MeeGo to boot from an SD Card.
Like Fedora/Android/Mer.

I fully understand that this is CLI only and can not do much.

I'm just after some help getting it to dual boot.
I've got Android running from my SD. I want to partition a card I have and install MeeGo to it.

I just need a guide as I'm not sure what file systems or anything that it needs.

Thanks all!

CooL_HunK 2010-06-16 08:36

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
hey dude, m a noob in linux, so I am not sure abt the meego thing but can u help most of ppl like me by helping us install android in our n900...plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz help us... u can be our saviour...

kingoddball 2010-06-16 08:45

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
I can help with that :D I've done it a few times now.
Install guide
Goto page 84 and download the newer Rootfs and if you have any troubles, they have probably been answered already further in the thread. Or ask me. I can help with the installation.

ToJa92 2010-06-16 09:12

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
My guess is that you create another partition on the MicroSD, then you download the image, extract it to the new partition(it would probably be partition #3), then you need to create a new file for the bootmenu, it should look something like this I believe:

ITEM_NAME="MeeGo"
ITEM_ID="meego"
ITEM_DEVICE="${EXT_CARD}p3"
ITEM_MODULES="mbcache jbd ext3 fat vfat" //No idea about the modules needed
ITEM_FSTYPE="ext3"
ITEM_FSOPTIONS="noatime" //No idea if this does any impact either

Of course, this is just theoretically, I have no idea if this would actually work ;)

giannoug 2010-06-16 09:23

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
Yes, thats the easiest way.

I'm looking for a guide or some tips in order to use kexec and load the MeeGo kernel.

kingoddball 2010-06-16 09:35

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
Damn. Kernel. I thought it was just there incase we did not have one for some reason.
I'm attempting to use DJ_Steve's Android (Dual Booting) kernel to get Fedora 12 to boot.

gsever 2010-06-16 09:39

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 717270)
Damn. Kernel. I thought it was just there incase we did not have one for some reason.
I'm attempting to use DJ_Steve's Android (Dual Booting) kernel to get Fedora 12 to boot.

What do you mean here? Are you going to boot FC12 on N900?

and of what use MeeGo has without a decent UI on it :D

kingoddball 2010-06-16 10:26

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
I'm not sure how to open the meego file I downloaded.
meego-n900-open-armv7l-1.0.0.20100525.1-sda.raw.bz2

I tried bzcat, tar and they failed.

I can't get FC12 to boot. I'm guessing it's my kernel (DJ Steve's Android dual boot) that's causing the issue.

MohammadAG 2010-06-16 11:10

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gsever (Post 717272)
What do you mean here? Are you going to boot FC12 on N900?

It's really not that hard to do, and Jebba's already done it, several months ago, http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Fedora

I got Ubuntu 9.10 working (huge thanks to b-man for pointing me in the right direction :)), the touch screen still doesn't work though.

gsever 2010-06-16 13:01

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
Hehe I have Fedora 12 on my laptop. I don't think I need another FC12 :D

CooL_HunK 2010-06-16 14:17

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
hey king dude, thnx but the procedure for android is very complicated to me, as I have only windows to work with... n a few other discouraging knowledge factors... so I just wanted to have a simple step by step guide, that can help any noob in programming and linux related stuff. so may be u can help me out...

n one more thing can u tell me that do I really needto have a SD card, n after installing meego on the SD card will the maemo boot along with meego...?????? plzzzzz help me out

kingoddball 2010-06-16 22:19

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CooL_HunK (Post 717599)
hey king dude, thnx but the procedure for android is very complicated to me, as I have only windows to work with... n a few other discouraging knowledge factors... so I just wanted to have a simple step by step guide, that can help any noob in programming and linux related stuff. so may be u can help me out...

n one more thing can u tell me that do I really needto have a SD card, n after installing meego on the SD card will the maemo boot along with meego...?????? plzzzzz help me out

It's actually pretty easy. You will NEED a Linux system.
If you're computer is alright (specs) then download a VM tool (WMware, Qemu or others) and just download a copy of linux.

Also - Forget about meego. Unnecessary.

What's needed:

Linux (Can't do much without it)
N900 + USB
SD Card (1GB would be a good minimum)
Flasher-3.5 (software - free via nokia)
PR 1.2 firmware (or if you didn't upgrade 1.1.1).


(It actually even seems possible to do it ON the N900... But I have not tested and don't want to format my SD card.)

I'm headed to work now, but if I have time, then I'll write up a nice tutorial. I was in the same boat was you on saturday just gone. I had NO clue.



Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 717357)
It's really not that hard to do, and Jebba's already done it, several months ago, http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Fedora

I got Ubuntu 9.10 working (huge thanks to b-man for pointing me in the right direction :)), the touch screen still doesn't work though.


Hi!
I'm still having trouble with it. I'm not sure how. It CAN NOT be as hard as it is for me.
On my N900 the scripts just WOULD NOT RUN, so I've done it all via my linux system. I broke the script down into pieces and done it that way.
I also had b-man's help. I have all fedora files (plus needed libs from n900) and I head over to n900 too boot and it just sits and then later it pops up with a "2 for mmc" "9 for something" boot modes. I'm sure they're not fedora messages. It just won't boot.
I'm not using the right kernel that Jabba supplied and i think that's what is killing me. I'm using a kernel with a frame buffer (Android dual boot kernel).

b-man 2010-06-16 23:02

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 718393)
It just won't boot.
I'm not using the right kernel that Jabba supplied and i think that's what is killing me.

Have you tried using the stock fremantle kernel?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 718393)
I'm using a kernel with a frame buffer (Android dual boot kernel).

I've compiled the fbcon framebuffer console drivers into kernel modules to save some time so people won't have to mess with compiling a new kernel just for framebuffer console support. :)

(NOTE: keep in mind that these kernel modules only work with the stock kernel - this won't work with the power-user kernel)

As root, download the kernel module tarball and unpack it in the terminal:
Code:

wget -c http://b-man.xceleo.org/files/fbcon-rx51.3.7.2010.tar.gz

tar -zxvf fbcon-rx51.3.7.2010.tar.gz

cd fbcon/

Next, copy all the modules, clean up, and resolve dependencies for modprobe:

Code:


cp -a *.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/

cd ..

rm -rf fbcon/

rm -rf fbcon-rx51.3.7.2010.tar.gz

cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/

depmod -a

Last, to load the fbcon framebuffer console driver, run the following (NOTE: this driver will not automatically load at startup; you must run this manually or add this to an init script or add this to /etc/rc.local if available on your system if you want this to run at startup.)

Code:

modprobe fbcon
optionally, you can check the status of your loaded fbcon driver with the following command:

Code:

dmesg | tail
have fun! :)

kingoddball 2010-06-17 01:09

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
(seeing how we are already way OT....)

Thanks b-man!
I think Im narrowing down my problem... its how Im getting fedora rootfs to the sd card. once its on there, the n900 isn't seeing it there.

Could someone help with a guide to install Fedora to SD using a PC?
I installed Android using my computer and it is pretty similar in formatting and installation.

I'm using Mint Linux fully setup for N900 development (not that I know how!!).

B-man - you mentioned (previously to me) about setting up a chroot. Is that after you install to SD?
Sorry about the stupid questions. I'm just not sure why I'm having such problems.

Could someone help? I don't see why setting up on PC can't be done.

Thanks all! VERY MUCH!


edit: cool_hunk:
I have created a full Android install guide here:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=56524

Yes, you may press the "Thanks" button ;)

chetannaik1983 2010-06-21 17:15

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
I tried to extract meego-n900-open-armv7l-1.0.0.20100525.1-sda.raw.bz2 onto my mmc card. and to my surprise my device shows after this as my memory card format not supported . I used dd command .. can anybody help me how to extract rootfs nicely onto mmc.

kingoddball 2010-06-21 21:16

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
I had the same problem!!
Have you tried to use the chroot install version insted?
similar thing to easy debian.
Its makes you use gtar and all their instructions are not working right.
the md5sum/hash is incorrect on every download I do.
You should check too.

There is some thing wrong over at meego.com's instructions!!!!

breakd0wn 2010-06-22 01:39

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoddball (Post 717313)
I'm not sure how to open the meego file I downloaded.
meego-n900-open-armv7l-1.0.0.20100525.1-sda.raw.bz2

I tried bzcat, tar and they failed.

I can't get FC12 to boot. I'm guessing it's my kernel (DJ Steve's Android dual boot) that's causing the issue.

You open a bz2 file like

tar -jxf <file>

EDIT: extract a bz2 file I meant.

kingoddball 2010-06-22 04:09

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
:( No. Won't work.
Brings up an error.
You need to do it ON the N900 using gtar. I have tried tar many times.

chetannaik1983 2010-06-22 06:17

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
As per my understanding I think untill an unless we have vfat partition available we cannt mount memory card .. so we can create two partition in memory card one ith vfat other with say Linux .. and then use dd command but now I am stuck at how to use second partition on device ..

Please help

MSHAH 2010-06-24 15:24

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
ive gotten as far as having a dual boot menu showing a meego option on my mem card but it crashes after several seconds, any ideas guys??

MSHAH 2010-06-24 15:28

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
not crashes: wrong word, it just turns off.

markyt23 2010-06-24 19:01

dual boot meego
 
can any assist with dual booting meego....following the meego how to...not working when i try to add meego to the boot menu........any suggestions

HellDragon 2010-06-26 23:05

Re: dual boot meego
 
I'd also like to know how to do this :)

clasificado 2010-06-27 02:42

Re: dual boot meego
 
you need to tell us what are you doing wrong :D

What how to are you following? How you have partitioned your n900 to have both maemo and meego? how are you hacking the bootloader?

and how do you know that its not working?

HellFlyer 2010-06-27 03:11

Re: dual boot meego
 
UX will be out on 30 afaik or did i missed something?

gopalakr 2010-07-08 23:48

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
what exactly is the stock fremantle kernel ? Is it the one the device is shipped with or another ? Can you please point to it ?

I have tried your fbcon steps and put the modprobe command in /etc/rc.local. but still see the blinking dots and the hands on startup.

juandp77 2010-07-09 00:00

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
check out this meego n900 guide: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=757

fahadj2003 2010-07-09 03:53

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
can someone tell me where u downloaded the bz2 file?
they jus got the kickstart and terminal on the meego website

fahadj2003 2010-07-09 18:52

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
anyone? :(

juandp77 2010-07-09 18:59

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
there is no downloadble version of meego you have to build your own raw image

fahadj2003 2010-07-09 21:15

Re: Guide: Install MeeGo on N900 SD Card (Dual Boot)?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by juandp77 (Post 746367)
there is no downloadble version of meego you have to build your own raw image

how do i do that?

a guide plz?


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