So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

I want to buy an 8GB card. What is recommended? I have read several posts, but I dont seem to be coming to any conclusion.


Questions:

are all classes supported on N800, or do they all run at the same speed?

Whos got the best deal?

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Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

You need a special kernel for anything over 4GB, right? If you inserted one with the stock kernel, would it only see 4GB of it, or none at all?

I didn't realize 8gb was out until I saw this post. Wow, a potential of 16GB!!!!

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Yes you need a custome kernel to support sdhc. Now theres one avalable, I want to buy!!!

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8GB SDHC Class 2 Transcend works fine with the SDHC kernel.

SDHC cards will not work at all with the stock Nokia 2.2006.51-6 kernel, no matter what size they are.

EDIT: I've been using the SDHC kernel linked from this page without any problems.

Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

Yep, can confirm the A-DATA 8GB SDHC card works perfectly. Not the fastest card out there, but no problems either. As mentioned, you must use the custom kernel to even see SDHC cards in the n800.

Larry

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I just purchased my first IT this weekend, so I am a newbee. :D

I know that Nokia states that the n800 SD card slot is limited to 2GB out of the box, but can it handle more without updating the kernel?
Thanks,
~DP

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I saw some people reported 8Gb A-Data worked, so I got one from Newegg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820211148) and it works fine for me (with SDHC kernel, of course). Used it for about two weeks now.

Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

Also have the Transcend 8GB. Works great with SDHC patched kernel.

Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

I grabbed 2 of the 8 GB SDHC A-Data cards from Newegg and have been using 'em for about a week - no problems.

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Can anyone confirm speed differences? between class 2 or 4 or 6 or do they all run the same speed on n800? I am just hesitant to by cheap, and I am also hesitant to buy high. If I buy cheap and speed is better with higher end I would rather buy higher end. If I buy expensive and they all run the exact same speed on n800, I will have wasted my money. Since I will be booting off the 8gb card, I would like it to be as fast as possible.

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Is the 8GB class 2 at least as fast as my 2GB kingston mmc mobile?

Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

It can handle many higher capacity SD cards, provided they don't follow the HC specs. I have 2 4GB cards in mine, following this advice:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...3&postcount=65

Zero problems.

Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

Hello newbie - there's a really handy "Search" function on this forum! ;)

Yes, 4GB SD cards will work using the stock Nokia kernel. Search for SDHC and you'll find a very long thread with working and non-working SD and SDHC cards.

Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

It can handle normal (non-SDHC) cards up to 4GB. Anything larger than that must be SDHC. I wouldn't be too worried about messing up the device flashing a new kernel, but then I'm familiar with Linux and use the command-line flasher on a Linux (Ubuntu) system and can re-flash the old one easily. Theoretically that's your biggest risk-- having to reflash your device.

Larry

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I got two 8GB SDHC 150x Samsung OEM cards on ebay from a fast supplier that got them to me in Southern Spain in less than a week. They were $150 USD including postage and was not charged any duty or taxes which is great. They work great with the SDHC kernel patch and boots in 28 seconds compared with 38 seconds for the internal Flash. I have sucessfully copied 6GB's of Pictures and Music onto each card and have not seen any problems.

Arch

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I am confused. I thought...

2GB/4GB 150x (read speed 22.5mb/s)
and
4GB-8GB SDHC (2, 4, 6, 8 class, read speed 2mb/s, 4mb/s, 6mb/s, 8mb/s)

So my question is... Isn't SDHC a lot slower than 150x?

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Just a warning about eBay - there are an awful lot of fake memory cards being sold so be very very careful when buying from eBay.

Try Googling for "fake ebay memory"...

I'm not suggesting these are fake, and I'm glad they appear to be working OK but "150x" isn't a recognised SDHC speed rating as far as I'm aware. It sounds as though someone is applying an SD speed rating to an SDHC card, which is a little suspicious.

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Class 2/4/6 (2/4/6MB/s) refers to the WRITE speed.

There is a speed test thread on this forum which showed the N800 SDHC read speed to be about 7.9MB/s. Further read speed improvements may be possible with addition kernel tweaking (eg. increase bus speed etc.).

Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

That should be write speed. SDHC speed class does not care about read speed. And that write speed is minimum guaranteed speed with continuous writes (i.e not random short writes which may be faster).

Having said that, there may be SDHC cards with slower read or write speed than 150x SD ones.

EDIT: Oh sorry, Milhouse already said that.

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Yes you guys are absolutely write about ebay (which is why I did not mention names) and lets just say I did my research. I got the memory about two weeks ago and at the time there were only a handful of people selling 8GB cards. The people I purchased from had a ridiculous amount of positive feedback and the cost was the same as a 4GB card but what swung it for me was the paypal guarantee. Once they arrived I immediately copied 6GB of stuff to and from them ensure they were ok.

I am fully aware that the SDHC spec states 2/4 or 6MBs sustained write speeds and I hope to do a proper speed test soon but that is how they were advertised. I will say that they have cheap (possibly photocopied or colour laser) labels but I suppose you get what you pay for. I have spent quite a bit of money on memory for this and that over the years but it always comes back to one thing you can always use extra space.

Arch

Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

I heard Nokia is coming out with a new firmware with LOTS of new goodies and tweaks. What are the chances SDHC will be in there?

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50/50 :)

Nobody knows, and those that do aint sayin. My heart says it will happen, my head says the SDHC patches arrived just a little too late for the next firmware (assuming ~6 weeks QA).

Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

Funny, you sound like you knew exactly when(what date and time) Nokia will release the next firmware.

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Well according to Ari Jaaksi's 13 Feb roadmap he states "In a few weeks (I hope) we'll release a new version of the OS2007"

March maybe? April at the outside?

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I sure hope so to cause once the 800 will be able to accept the 8gb cards im def going out and buying two of them. ive been holding back on buying sd cards because i want the monsterous 16gb of memory!!!

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You can run the 8GB cards now, just do the kernel update!!

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Neh. I'm waiting for 32GB cards. I'll then have a pocketable with more storage power than my previous pc -- and no decent PIM to put my addresses in. :rolleyes:

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2gb 4gb, now 16gb... where will it stop? when the processor wont be able to cover the space in a reasonable amount of time? where is the wall?

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So with all this space would you really mind dedicating 2GB for OS. I wouldnt. This is a fully functional piece of equipment, once you get past the matchbox and hildon UI, built in limitations. Its like having a real computer, not just a neat toy. Flash could become a recovery tool/OS load tool. Just plug in your SD card and push the OS from the flash and reboot.

Imagine how many problems support nokia could eliminate. They could always boot to the flash and run diags with the user on the phone. If everything passes, tell them to put in the 128MB and test boot, some small test image. Everything works good, it must be your SD card. Tell them to format and reload, if that fails "contact your memory manufacturer".

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ok well then maybe i will just update the kernel (link anyone?) but now Karel says he's waiting for the 32gb is this even possible or are you just being sarcastic because if you arnt then hell ill wait for that to and when would they be coming out?

Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

16GB SDHC towards the end of the year, most likely. Won't be cheap.

8GB SDHC cards are fairly reasonably priced these days.

SDHC kernel.

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The kewl dudes at Engadget keep claiming 32GB is "just around the corner".

Seriously: I'm pretty much set with 2X4GB right now, so I can probably sit it out for those magical 32GB cards. Hopefully by then the N800 will play videos reasonably well, so that I can ditch my 30GB Archos PMA430.

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But the SDHC patched were added in january 1, http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/1/1/35
Unhinged posted his kernel on Jan 18, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?p=30439
Even assuming Nokia start working at the time Unhinged posted the kernel, and not before, few weeks aways from Feb 13, still be with in 6 week. So, logically it's possible to for Nokia to release next update w/ SDHC and still be with in the QA timeframe.

Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

The SDHC patches first became available in early January but weren't accepted into the kernel mainline until mid to late January (around 18 Jan, possibly in 2.18.21). Additional patches in early Feb added improved MMC support and may have fixed any SDHC bugs in the original patch (the patch developer didn't even have a N800 until early February!)

Nokia may have taken the view these changes were too cutting edge and decided they weren't worth the risk of delaying the release. Or not.

We won't know for sure until the next firmware release - hopefully SDHC will be baked in, but I won't be surprised if it's not.

Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

for installing the kernal that will work for the 8gb cards do you just click the link and it installs or am i going to have to do it some other way.

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Guys, is it possible to install the module on the live kernel using insmod? Is the module (.ko file) available by separate?

This way we wouldn't need to re-flash the kernel awaiting for the new official release from Nokia.

Re: So you want to buy an 8GB Card?
 

Reflashing the kernel is no big deal - you won't lose any data or applications as you are only replacing the kernel and not the rootfs. It's not possible to insmod SDHC support.