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rikisky 2010-03-27 21:49

front camera, will it ever work?
 
hello, i was wondering, since the P.R1.2 sdk is out, and the firmware update is probably around the corner, if there was any news on the front camera use, right now i've checked a couple of threads and can't find the answer i'm looking for.... i know that with "mirror" you can access it but the camera quality is pretty bad, and there's too much noise...i want to know if this is a hardware problem or if the update will be able to fix it with some better coding or something..... i also read that skype is working with symbian, so i was wondering if are there rumors that we'll get skype video call...i know there's gtalk but more people use skype... and maybe it's just me but i want my camera to work badly, i don't see the point in putting it there if they weren't planning on using it :s

*Sonic* 2010-03-27 21:56

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
AFAIK SDK users cannot test anything camera related as they just dont have the necessary hardware

As you say we know the fron camera works as there are already at least 2 applications that make use of it

zarf 2010-03-27 22:00

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
I wondered if there was something wrong with my front camera, then i took it outside, try daylight or high light levels, all the noise disappeaers.

Plus you may like to check out aMSN, i use it to send video to MSN. (couldn't get audio at same time for some odd reason so used skype for that) Overall effect very good.

rikisky 2010-03-27 22:07

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
so, it's a coding problem? the new firmware could be able to fix it? ... is aMSN available in any of the extras repositories? ...

zarf 2010-03-27 22:13

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rikisky (Post 584742)
so, it's a coding problem? the new firmware could be able to fix it? ... is aMSN available in any of the extras repositories? ...

Not sure if it's coding or lack of light sensitivity with the front camera, but gut feeling is more gain could be applied to the exposure level if we had a control for it.

The aperture is very small, its not physically possible for it to be very light sensitive.

Can anyone else comment on why the front camera quality is highly dependant upon high light levels?

Hadn't thought about it much, just turned more lights on.

maxximuscool 2010-03-27 22:22

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
Camera is working but no official Application from Nokia which make use of it just yet. There will be in 1year time from now.. I believe that it will be.

shadowjk 2010-03-29 05:12

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
I would have thought gain is exactly the thing that adds noise :)

Maybe longer exposure time instead, though that brings with it blur Hunless you hold still) and low fps :)

jrox 2010-03-29 05:43

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
I've used the front camera to do google video chat (It works if a person initiates a video call with you). Using that system the video on the front camera looked 30x better than when I tried to run mirror. It was reasonable quality for video chat.

Here's how I did it so you can see for yourself: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...2&postcount=31

ossipena 2010-03-29 06:33

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
it is hardware problem. it is all the same with every small image sensor.
(e: I mean everything below aps-c so the primary camera of n900 is also included...)

there are two fixes:

1. don't live in a dark cave

2. get software to remove the noise.

doing both gets the best results.

Lazarpandar 2010-03-29 06:47

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
I wanna use my N900 to go on chatroulette on the go!

ossipena 2010-03-29 06:50

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazarpandar (Post 586253)
I wanna use my N900 to go on chatroulette on the go!

you should find a developer who writes a client (if chatroulettes protocol etc is open and documented, it shouldn't be too hard)

Lazarpandar 2010-03-29 06:58

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
Maybe when I start my major in Software engineering at Oregon tech it'll be one of my projects.

I plan to be a pretty big name in console emulation, I've even been talking to Zodttd who has been giving me input on what programming languages to learn and where to get started.

Lazarpandar.com, home of the PS2 emulator for the N2000, you heard it here first folks!

edit: for the record though right now I couldn't help anyone make any sort of program that isn't covered in the first half of C for Dummies :D

HtheB 2010-03-29 09:36

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 586255)
you should find a developer who writes a client (if chatroulettes protocol etc is open and documented, it shouldn't be too hard)

chatroulette is made in flash 10.....

should work on ur browser when flash10 will be there for the N900 users. But I'm sure Flash won't recognize the internal camera....

cashclientel 2010-03-29 09:38

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
The front facing camera does work but there are just no applications that use it.

noobmonkey 2010-03-29 09:53

Re: front camera, will it ever work?
 
*Cough* ... mine does - but not for any real purpose other than to prove it works ;)


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