Nokia USA Delays the Nokia 770 Again!
 

Good God!!

Must Nokia *always* follow my lead?! I'd already said I didn't expect to have my own until January 2006 -- so now they've delayed the ENTIRE RUN just to please me!

Those Finns are such pals!

(Ducking all the shotguns aimed at me by my fellow Nokia-rabid Americans...)

edited to add --

Seeing some of the rough spots people are reporting, I'm all in favor of this latest delay. Let Nokia Get It Right before setting it loose to millions.

Anyway, what competition do they have? WinCE? Ha! PPC? *snort*! PALM?! ROTFLMAO. They have NONE.

OTOH, what might Apple spring in January, eh, eh?

I am not surprised. I have one and have difficulties with the browser, it gets slow after a while. I can't say why but some websites also give the browser a hard time and it even stalls. After a few weeks of using it - I would like the same tool but double the size of the screen. Kind of A5 size. It is an Internettablet, so I want to use it to browse all the online applications. Palm applications are designed for a small window, websites are not (yet).
But that's the price you pay as an early adapter..... ;-)

Rumors about Apple taking another go at the handheld market have been around since the downfall of the Newton. The difference this time is that they've created a whole new market segment for themselves. If they can roll out a device that supports multimedia while being a handheld web tablet, they could really blow open that niche.

PDAs still struglle to find serious use beyond business clients and, these days, convergence is becoming more popular as a way to cut costs. RIM's success has shown that while a device may not be a master of individual functionality, a good combination of features into one device has a place in the market. Given that, I don't necessarily think that Apple would go the strict PDA route.

A full blown tablet also seems unlikely given the struggles that form factor has had. Consumers just aren't seeing the necessity of a tablet over a small notebook. Some have suggested, and I agree, that the lack of very desirable or must have tablet based software is also a culprit. Apple could do a lot ot change this, but their focus these days is on consumers and their multimedia interests vs. corporate customers and business needs.

It might work it's way out of the pocketable category (although many people wouldn't consider the 770 and most PDAs in general "pocketable" like most cell phones are) but could be a huge success nonetheless. Full web-browsing capabilities (although some folks have more than a few gripes about Safari), music and video playback, photo viewing, and perhaps even some basic functionality from other apps. Package it up in a the usual Apple slick exterior and you could have yourself a real winner.

Sounds like the 770, right? Do yourself a favor Nokia, get it out there en masse before Jobs comes along and steals your thunder.

Jeff

Well Folks, you don't think Apple isn't watching this situation...think again....

I would like to see a widescreen 7" screen iPod with wifi/bt web browsing! :D

Just watch. There is consumer niche for something other than the iBook.

It won't succeed if it's not pocketable? :D

With Apple's red hot success and consumer interest at the moment, it would probably succeed either way. Although, if they could make it pocketable - tough reach a compromise between adequate screen size and overall form factor - it would probably sell better.

Jeff

I believe Apple will offer to market yet another device closely resembling a feminine hygeine product, to which the legions of sheep covetting the overpriced units will respond to the question "what's so good about it?" with "It's the design. DESIGN. The DESIGN."

I hear the iPOD Nano can absorb 40ml more of blue liquid than the previous iPOD. That's impressive.

Pocketable is nice but you cant have everything. A bigger screen (more than 4 inches is desired by many, a step down from an iBook) but it doesnt have to fit in a shirt pocket. Briefcaseable, pocketbookable (for the ladies), and other "ables" will make it work.

If Apple can create a networking device with a 800-pixel wide screen, safari, mail, iTunes, iChat, and widgets, then it'll be a hit!

Apple Specs
 

A great list of features. Add QuickTime MPEG4/H264 support (ala the Video iPod) and this potential device gives the N770 a real run for its money. That said, it might be tough for Apple to get a mobile version of OSX running on Flash memory vs. a HDD and any device that goes with an HDD is going to drive the price up.

IMO, Nokia still has a window here. I sure hope they don't stumble any more timing-wise and disappoint the waiting market they've got -- especially the rabid prerelease fan base they've cultivated basically by word of mouth alone since few of us have ever held one.

I bet it would cost around $900 or more

Well, I went ahead and contacted the one person I feel is reliable. He's the claims dept rep I spoke with a couple of times last week. As before, he was cool and certainly more detailed than any of the sales reps I've spoken with. The latest info he has as of last night is that there is some "problem". He didn't know if it was just manufacturing quantities, some technical issue or what. But, whatever it is has caused availability to slip.

As of now, the only info they have is "mid-December". He said there is no specific date and, as such, phone reps shouldn't be giving any out. He apologized for the delay again.

Well, I guess this dashes hopes of a December 1st release...

Jeff

900-1000 would be worth it, considering the styling that Apple always delivers ....not to mention, keeping a promise to their customers in regards to a launch date.

Now wait a second people. What it says is "Current orders will not be fulfillied until January." That means, if you order today, don't expect it before January.

This might mean our orders are delayed too, but not necessarily. Don't jump to conclusions.

As of now, the only info they have is "mid-December".

Ok, I give. I called and canceled mine. If they had made any sort of commitment, I might have held on. But the endlessly changing info and unwillingness to take any responsibility for their shipping dates is too much. Add the possibility of an Apple competitor in early '06, and there wasn't any reason let Nokia keep me hanging. Better luck next year, if your device can still compete. Which sucks, as I am an avid Linux user and was really intrigued by a Linux tablet. Way to botch the launch, guys...

I stay away from Apple and ITunes. I don't like how secretive Apple is -- they keep their devoted fans in the dark and then make some big showy announcement. It makes their customers look pathetic. And I don't want iTunes DRM. I prefer to buy CDs and rip them legally than to relinguish my freedom to play my files on any player and operating system I choose within my home and mobile devices. (You do realize that once you start buying DRMd music from Apple you are committing yourself to being an Apple customer forever, right?)

Compare this to Nokia's openness with regards to the 770. For months they've provided information about it and showed the device at consumer electronics shows, allowing for some early reviews. They are sponsoring an open source project to develop the platform and are welcoming contributions and feedback from the community. I much prefer this openness.

If you have cancelled or plan to cancel your 770 order, please vote in the following poll:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...read.php?t=489

Wow. So many people who lust for an Apple device!

Here's some more on Nokia:

http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/21...-mobile-gaming

Very interesting.

I am an Apple whore, I admit it but have been since 1984. I have two iBooks, iMacG5 and a Powerbook PLUS an Apple Airport Express home network. I love iTunes. Apple products (for the most part) "just work".... An Apple product like the 770 would be awesome. I can see it happening....

Actually, it makes Apple a TON of money. They have successfully pulled off marketing ferver time after time. Apple loyalists and newcomers alike have been drawn to their announcement events. Long time Apple fans may disagree with this new direction, but it has ensured that Apple will be a player for a long time to come. It's the way of the world - money and profits talk.

Yes, Apple DRM is a closed loop. However, it has been circumvented and conversion to unrestricted MP3 is very easy. Besides that, as you point out, you can just buy CDs and rip them. I've had an iPod since the first gen and have bought less than 10 songs from ITMS in all that time. You can use iTunes and iPods without ever buying a song from ITMS.

That's great. There's only one problem - it doesn't matter a bit until the product starts shipping in quantity. You want to know something else funny, I'd bet some serious money that all the stuff you mentioned hasn't generated nearly as much interest for the 770 as Apple does with one of their surprise events.

By the way, I don't plan on cancelling my order. I'm getting a 770. But Nokia's performance on this has been less than stellar.

Jeff

Mac Mini
 

In the beginning of selling mac mini I ordered one and after 10 weeks of waiting cancelled!

Apple had such problems in past too, perhaps I shouldn't order such things? :confused:

Completely off topic but interesting just the same. I'm going up to Manhattan next weekend and I just found out that Wired magazine opened a holiday store in SOHO. One of the items they are selling and have on display is the OQO 01+. I've been curious about this sucker for a while so I'll probably swing by to check it out in person.

Jeff

From everything I've heard/read about the OQO it's pretty impressive, with features I'd love to have on the 770. But then I wouldn't want to add $2000 to the cost of the 770 . . .

I'm not really interested in buying the OQO, but I do want to check it out in person. For the price, I'd have to be using it as a laptop replacement and its weak processor and limited RAM don't make that a viable option. It is cool, though.

Jeff

I'm still in the dark ages computerwise, using a MSNtv(formerly WebTV) device. I'm happy with it, but I'm hoping the 770 will be a cheaper replacement for it, as I can get rid of my land line and dial-up ISP. I'm into travel and camping, and the 770 looks good for that. What I'd really like is a notebook type device where the screen is a LCD televison, with wi-fi capability to surf the 'net. With a built in dvd player. Preferably with a 17" widescreen display. I guess I could spend alot of bucks for an expensive multimedia laptop, but I don't need that kind of computer firepower or the cost. I'd settle for a MSNtv device with tv, dvd, wi-fi, cable ready. Hopefully somebody will look at the RV market and realize there's a need to fill.