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plssuckmime@hotmail.com 2010-04-06 08:44

can Recaller work automatically?
 
it is very inconvenient that i have to press that red button after i receive a call. i have to go back to menu(1 click) and touch the red point (2 clicks).
can it record automatically? just like a famous perfect app (symbian S60) (what's the name? i guess everyone knows)

gionni88 2010-04-06 09:50

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plssuckmime@hotmail.com (Post 597377)
(what's the name? i guess everyone knows)

The app you're pointing to is TotalRecall.

JohnLF 2010-04-06 10:26

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
It may be possible to use the dbus monitoring daemon to look for phone pickup/hangup signals and start/stop the script accordingly.
Not that I could do it, mind, but it may be possible that way...

omeriko9 2010-04-06 10:37

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
I'm sure Tom can handle that just fine, but I can offer my help with helping make it automatically record incomding calls, the way that johnLF mentioned.

dof250 2010-04-06 10:58

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
I would also like to see that :) automaticly record all calls incoming/outgoing. and maybe auto delete after a week or something? So the user can choose wich calls to keep.

twaelti 2010-04-06 12:11

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
I have a vastly improved development version running on my N900 that has most features that people requested (larger icon, clear recording indication, configurable save folder, configurable recording format, configurable recording mode [dictaphone, voice, bt]). It has callbacks for going offhook and onhook when being called over GSM. It just needs some more internal testing, sorting out of some glitches and adding auto record on outgoing calls.
Testing is just a nightmare as I have to keep calling myself from my landline :-)
(or even worse, call my own landline in the evenings - the wife is not pleased :-)

omeriko9 2010-04-06 12:40

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twaelti (Post 597590)
I have a vastly improved development version running on my N900 that has most features that people requested (larger icon, clear recording indication, configurable save folder, configurable recording format, configurable recording mode [dictaphone, voice, bt]). It has callbacks for going offhook and onhook when being called over GSM. It just needs some more internal testing, sorting out of some glitches and adding auto record on outgoing calls.
Testing is just a nightmare as I have to keep calling myself from my landline :-)
(or even worse, call my own landline in the evenings - the wife is not pleased :-)

You can use Skype (or google voice in US) for that :)

NokTokDaddy 2010-04-06 12:40

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twaelti (Post 597590)
I have a vastly improved development version running on my N900 that has most features that people requested (larger icon, clear recording indication, configurable save folder, configurable recording format, configurable recording mode [dictaphone, voice, bt]). It has callbacks for going offhook and onhook when being called over GSM. It just needs some more internal testing, sorting out of some glitches and adding auto record on outgoing calls.
Testing is just a nightmare as I have to keep calling myself from my landline :-)
(or even worse, call my own landline in the evenings - the wife is not pleased :-)

You haven't been calling my wife in the name of 'development' have you?

Someone keeps hanging up when I answer the phone...

Keep up the good work, none the less!

plssuckmime@hotmail.com 2010-04-07 02:56

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gionni88 (Post 597437)
The app you're pointing to is TotalRecall.

yes that is exactly what i meant

maemo8@yahoo.cn 2010-04-07 03:33

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
TotalRecall is kinda sth that other apps can never touch!

twaelti 2010-04-07 07:24

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by maemo8@yahoo.cn (Post 598697)
TotalRecall is kinda sth that other apps can never touch!

Thank you for the constructive feedback :D Are you a spammer?
Looking at the feature list of Total Recall, I'd say that the next version of Recaller should be able to cover most features and more (AAC :-) ), assuming you use it together with the default file manager. Only autosend is not implemented.

omeriko9 2010-04-07 07:30

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twaelti (Post 598883)
Only autosend is not implemented.

Let's say that for autosend you first need MMS :p

twaelti 2010-04-07 07:40

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by omeriko9 (Post 598889)
Let's say that for autosend you first need MMS :p

Well, assuming that fMMS already has a sharing interface, it should be "easy" to implement. And the HTTP sharing of TotalRecall needs an account with the publisher - while you can use Petrovich (or hopefully the File Manager in PR 1.2) to distribute a recording over:
  • Bluetooth
  • E-Mail
  • fMMS
  • Flickr
  • Ovi
  • And all other services available through the sharing plugin

felbutss 2010-04-07 07:42

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
+999999999999999999999 this

boudjere 2010-04-15 06:56

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
At first, let me say that I highly appreciate the autorecording feature of the new recaller version, even before I was able to test it (same testing problems with midnight calls to my landline as twaelti :)).

I just installed the new version this morning, but face the problem that tapping the "settings" does not do anything at all.. "help", "about" and "donate" work as intended (I think :)).

@twaelti: Thanks a lot for this app!

copperviking 2010-04-15 09:35

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by boudjere (Post 611381)
At first, let me say that I highly appreciate the autorecording feature of the new recaller version, even before I was able to test it (same testing problems with midnight calls to my landline as twaelti :)).

I just installed the new version this morning, but face the problem that tapping the "settings" does not do anything at all.. "help", "about" and "donate" work as intended (I think :)).

@twaelti: Thanks a lot for this app!

Same here...... Waiting for update....

twaelti 2010-04-15 14:03

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
That's why we have Extras-Devel :-)
The new build from yesterday has a major bug that makes it completely unable to work ... however thanks to two community members I already got a detailed bug report, the fix is easy and a new build will come tonight.

zimon 2010-04-15 14:08

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by twaelti (Post 597590)
I have a vastly improved development version running on my N900 that has most features that people requested

Can it record audio from FM-radio?

I'd like to have only one recording application, which could do all my recordings; phone recording, dictating notes, recording songs/stream from FM-radio in stereo (pause/continue/split -buttons), ....

Thriceberg 2010-04-15 18:37

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Is there a changelog for the new version up anywhere?

I'm definitely looking forward to downloading the fixed update when it's up. Automatic call recording is one of the few things my WinMo phone did that my N900 can't--er, couldn't.

Recaller is awesome. It's simple, lightweight, and--most importantly--it timestamps everything. Invaluable for someone like me who is constantly making audio notes. Thank you so much for making and improving it twaelti!

HtheB 2010-04-15 18:52

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zimon (Post 611902)
Can it record audio from FM-radio?

I'd like to have only one recording application, which could do all my recordings; phone recording, dictating notes, recording songs/stream from FM-radio in stereo (pause/continue/split -buttons), ....

The old version could do this...
:(

twaelti 2010-04-15 21:05

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
* Auto-recording of GSM calls
* Useable as dictaphone
* Record device audio (e.g. FM or internet radio, game sounds)
* Configurable Save Folder
* Autonaming of files (including call partner number)

twaelti 2010-04-15 21:06

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 612382)
The old version could do this...
:(

But not properly - mic never was disabled. In the new version, you can select "System" as source and just record system audio.
Or "Dictaphone", if you want to use the mic.

ceevee 2010-04-15 22:29

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
When I installed the new 2.0.0-1 version, from the old 0.4.0-1:

I press the red button, it turns green. I press it again and it won't do anything.

Is anyone else experiencing the same thing or am I doing something wrong?

cubalibre 2010-04-15 22:54

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
same for me.
I also tried to uninstall and re install it without changes

N999 2010-04-16 03:56

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
good idea.........

twaelti 2010-04-16 07:08

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Read the help page with the bugs list. You're installing software from Extras-Devel - if things work in there, it's always a miracle :-)

Short version: Wait for 2.0.0-2

I fixed it and uploaded yesterday, but ONCE AGAIN the package importer is down so no packages arrive in the repos :-(

mirakels 2010-04-16 07:29

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
The 2.0.0.-1 contains spurious icons: mclock.png.
When installing/upgrading I got a message that mclock.png was also in package mclock.

Comparing the icon from recaller and mclock they turn out to be the same. Guess they should be removed from recaller...

twaelti 2010-04-16 10:12

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
2.0.0-2 is now available from the repos.
(Please remember that this is extras-devel ;-)

kavekave 2010-04-16 21:35

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
people i just update recaller to the new version..but i can't access settings..is there a bug???

zimon 2010-04-16 21:54

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
There is reCaller also in applications menu. When clicked, it becomes highlighted, but nothing else happens. What does it do?

I have now two reCaller widgets on a desktop. One is for recording calls, one is for dictaphone. Would be good to have some way to see the difference in them, like colour or letter or name.

Is there CLI to recaller? So in terminal could be recording started to listen phone call, system sounds, or microphone, chosen by an CLI option?

Would like to have recording buttons on FM-radio, so I am wondering if somehow reCaller could be used as a back-end.

See, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9944

ceevee 2010-04-16 23:33

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Tried out 2.0.0-2. I had the same bugs I mentioned for 2.0.0-1, plus the inability to save conf when exiting the settings menu. I also couldnt get into the settings menu sometimes, like kavekave mentioned.

I rebooted a couple times and it started working as it should.

However I'm not sure how the notification option works. I don't have a checkmark on Notifications and recaller tells me when I'm connecting and disconnecting to a call. Recaller isn't even on or green.

ndi 2010-04-18 01:46

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Mine is too green. When the call ends, I get a notification, but button still green, get reminders every second and it pretty much hangs. I think it still records.

It requires reboot every call.

ndi 2010-04-19 15:50

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Am i the only one that has the neverending call issue? I need to reboot it every call. I also noticed that the app that switches to speaker on keyboard/sensor is also acting strange, maybe a conflict?

"Phone Speaker Switcher" set to work with keyboard slide

ceevee 2010-04-19 19:39

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Using recaller 2.0.0-7

The bug in 2.0.0-2 is fixed. When Notification has no check, it correctly does not show up.

Could have been fixed earlier, but this is the version i jumped to.

zimon 2010-04-19 19:41

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
# apt-get install recaller
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package recaller is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package recaller has no installation candidate

felbutss 2010-04-20 09:32

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
2.0.0-6 is starting to play up hardcore. will try 2.0.0-7

owerlord 2010-04-20 14:11

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zimon (Post 618264)
# apt-get install recaller
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package recaller is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package recaller has no installation candidate

so i cant get it yet?

kavekave 2010-04-20 14:43

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
why do they keep updating recaller? iam on 2.0.0-7 ..what's the difference between this update and the old ones??

felbutss 2010-04-20 14:51

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
2.0.0-7 has the same bug not fixed. GET IT OUT OF EXTRAS. i got off a call and the button is still green. have to reboot. dam it. should stay in devel till fixed. huge issue.

and i just pressed it to record my voice and its stuck on green AGAIN

thanks

ndi 2010-04-21 00:00

Re: can Recaller work automatically?
 
What else do you have installed, mine is hung on green too after each call.

ESpeakCaller, Phones Speaker Switcher both hook calls.

What seems odd to me is that Recaller actually displays the notification that the call has ended so it's probably not that.

Also, Do you guys get full recording when phone is on speaker? I get one-sided recordings.


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