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bbin 2010-04-07 18:58

Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/lf...o-workgroup#kh

Looks like some real info on meego end user experience next week. Am I right?

prana 2010-04-07 19:16

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
It does seem like it. No wonder, there is no word on a PR 1.2 release. :p

pinsh 2010-04-07 19:18

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
Interesting that Greg Kroah-Hartman will be presenting the MeeGo desktop; he is a quite famous Linux kernel developer.

buurmas 2010-04-07 19:28

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pinsh (Post 599868)
Interesting that Greg Kroah-Hartman will be presenting the MeeGo desktop; he is a quite famous Linux kernel developer.

Ah -- I didn't know the name, but I did see that he was from Novell. If my eyes worked properly, he was the only speaker not from Intel or Nokia.

Does this mean that all MeeGo UXs will use the same desktop? Or just that there will be a "default" desktop? Does it mean MeeGo will be usable by non-terminal folks without a specific UX on top of it (e.g., a "generic" MeeGo UX)?

mrojas 2010-04-07 19:29

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
I think the key word here is "Desktop". It is probably the revamped Moblin interface for Meego, not Maemo 6 - Harmattan UI for mobile devices.

vvaz 2010-04-07 19:54

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
Some hints may be dropped one day earlier, on Wednesday:

http://events.linuxfoundation.org/lfcs2010/meego

parasight 2010-04-07 19:55

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 599882)
I think the key word here is "Desktop". It is probably the revamped Moblin interface for Meego, not Maemo 6 - Harmattan UI for mobile devices.

You're probably right. Nevertheless looks like an interesting workgroup.

ammadtira 2010-04-07 20:09

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
O stop this plz. All these is useless. P.R 1.2 is not released till now. How Meego b4 next week
:-(

buurmas 2010-04-07 20:17

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 599882)
I think the key word here is "Desktop". It is probably the revamped Moblin interface for Meego, not Maemo 6 - Harmattan UI for mobile devices.

I'm not grasping the distinction you're making here between Desktop and UI. What would be in the latter but not the former? Apps like mediaplayers and online store integration that might be vendor specific? Also, I know MeeGo will have a Netbook UX that is separate from its Tablet UX, and I think people were assuming that the Netbook UX would be the reincarnation of Moblin, not this MeeGo desktop. Hence my confusion.

buurmas 2010-04-07 20:19

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ammadtira (Post 599932)
O stop this plz. All these is useless. P.R 1.2 is not released till now. How Meego b4 next week
:-(

I believe Quim has stated that these are separate teams and one's schedule does not impact the other's.

qgil 2010-04-08 05:40

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by buurmas (Post 599946)
I believe Quim has stated that these are separate teams and one's schedule does not impact the other's.

Whatever a Novell employee wants to explain about MeeGo is even more independent from Maemo 5 work, obviously.

fwiw Novell has been working on netbook integration and application development since the Moblin days, and they continue to do so in MeeGo.

lucas777 2010-04-09 08:42

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
question is there any pictures around anywhere of a pre release of meego running on an n900 im just interested in what it looks like...

chase15 2010-04-09 08:45

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas777 (Post 602390)
question is there any pictures around anywhere of a pre release of meego running on an n900 im just interested in what it looks like...

you can only see a "xterminal" type of window... like what they said.. its only for dev(for now)

johnel 2010-04-09 08:51

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
I know that MeeGo on the n900 is visibly just a terminal but some sexy eye candy showing the GUI stuff would be really nice.

Just to clarify "sexy eye candy showing the GUI" should mean:
(a) pretty lady holding n900 with MeeGo installed or
(b) screenshots of current progress of GUI or
(c) (a) and (b)

tissot 2010-04-09 08:52

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
So is this the actual UI we will be seeing in harmattan/MeeGo?

attila77 2010-04-09 09:00

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 602399)
So is this the actual UI we will be seeing in harmattan/MeeGo?

No. People are talking about three UI-s in this thread (hello branding confusion). The first is the MeeGo desktop (as in netbooks, maybe tablets) reference UX, which is the one that is announced for April. The second is the MeeGo mobile (as in phones) reference UX, which has no announced date yet, but I guess it should be part of the 'full' MeeGo release, which is said to be in May. The third is the Harmattan GUI, which is the Nokia customization of the MeeGo mobile reference UX, due 2010H2.

johnel 2010-04-09 09:43

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 602406)
No. People are talking about three UI-s in this thread (hello branding confusion). The first is the MeeGo desktop (as in netbooks, maybe tablets) reference UX, which is the one that is announced for April. The second is the MeeGo mobile (as in phones) reference UX, which has no announced date yet, but I guess it should be part of the 'full' MeeGo release, which is said to be in May. The third is the Harmattan GUI, which is the Nokia customization of the MeeGo mobile reference UX, due 2010H2.

That's made things alot clearer.

This maybe a bit off-topic....

Can I assume that the current MeeGo release for the n900 has a fairly complete set of core-components and most stuff that will underpin the GUI is already present?

1) If that is the case then MeeGo "desktop" gui (due in April) can be installed on the current n900 MeeGo installation?

2) Can the Meego Mobile gui be installed onto the n900 MeeGo installation (e.g. an app that allows you to make phone calls)?

3) Is Nokia's version of Mobile gui totally seperate or does this just mean Nokia have developed additional components?

attila77 2010-04-09 10:22

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by johnel (Post 602450)
Can I assume that the current MeeGo release for the n900 has a fairly complete set of core-components and most stuff that will underpin the GUI is already present?

Correct, these core components are provided by Qt.

Quote:

1) If that is the case then MeeGo "desktop" gui (due in April) can be installed on the current n900 MeeGo installation?

2) Can the Meego Mobile gui be installed onto the n900 MeeGo installation (e.g. an app that allows you to make phone calls)?
Technically yes, but it's anybody's guess just how useable will these os-chimeras be on the N900 in real life. The most difficult will be with the phone part, as it's a closed-driver thing and without any documentation I know of. Nokia DID provide a separate image with WiFi/BT drivers for the initial code-dump, but AFAIK the GSM stuff is still missing.

Quote:

3) Is Nokia's version of Mobile gui totally seperate or does this just mean Nokia have developed additional components?
This is pretty much unknown ATM. As it's relatively easy to make new GUIs with Qt, I'd expect significant differences (as they said a while back that it's the UX layer where they expect the most vendor customization), especially in components that are closed source (say, Media Player ? Was closed in all previous releases, we have yet to see its status in Harmattan)

tissot 2010-04-09 10:50

Re: Are we seeing a peek to the MeeGo desktop interface next week?
 
Thanks for clearing that up.

Just get ready of 1000 posts next week asking about these same things and lots of confusion ;) Can't wait.


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