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imdense 2010-04-11 18:03

Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
Hi everyone,

I have a N900 and absolutely love it. My friend said i should get an iphone because they are simple to use but i prefer something a little more techy. However, i am now a little stuck because i want to learn japanese using flashcards on my phone.

Ive downloaded ankmaemi, ankiqt,qteachme, tomotko and word by word. I havnt managed to get any of these to work with the flash cards i want to use (japanese for busy people vol 1).

Does anyone know of any other apps? Or can someone provide me with a guide to get these working?

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

jaem 2010-04-12 01:33

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by imdense (Post 605675)
Hi everyone,

I have a N900 and absolutely love it. My friend said i should get an iphone because they are simple to use but i prefer something a little more techy. However, i am now a little stuck because i want to learn japanese using flashcards on my phone.

Ive downloaded ankmaemi, ankiqt,qteachme, tomotko and word by word. I havnt managed to get any of these to work with the flash cards i want to use (japanese for busy people vol 1).

Does anyone know of any other apps? Or can someone provide me with a guide to get these working?

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Hmm.. I don't know anything about the series you're using (or any other Japanese Language series, for that matter), but if you could tell me what file format the flash cards are provided in, that would be a good start. Also, I assume that the flash cards are subject to copyright by the publisher? My friend tells me that Anki's library may have something similar, but I would assume that they wouldn't have permission to reproduce something such as this. You could also ask around about this on the Anki mailing list.
Is Anki stable on the N900 yet? I've been waiting for it for other reasons.

magnuslu 2010-04-12 01:35

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
Hi,

Please send me the file and I'll have a look at loading it into QTeachMe. My email address is in the about box of the app. I'm using QTeachMe with Chinese characters, so it should be possible.

FBergeron 2010-04-12 03:47

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
For toMOTko, it's easy because the glossary is already available here:

http://tomotko.sourceforge.net/en/glossaries.shtml

To use it, read the Getting started quickly section in the Help. You will find how to import an existing glossary. Be careful, you do not need to unzip the glossary file, import as is. The application wil unzip it for you.

The toMOTko application is not finished yet. I hope to complete it within a month. Nonetheless, even in its current state, it works well enough IMHO. You should have no problems to use it to learn Japanese.

If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.

Addison 2010-04-12 06:31

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by magnuslu (Post 606189)
Hi,

Please send me the file and I'll have a look at loading it into QTeachMe. My email address is in the about box of the app. I'm using QTeachMe with Chinese characters, so it should be possible.

I'm still hoping to see QTeachme for Diablo as well.

Been checking your thread about once every three days or so. :)

magnuslu 2010-04-12 06:40

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
@Addison

Quote:

Been checking your thread about once every three days or so.
To make life easier for you, I'll pm you once there is a new version available :)

Addison 2010-04-12 06:43

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by magnuslu (Post 606403)
@Addison



To make life easier for you, I'll pm you once there is a new version available :)

Thanks Magnuslu!

Now I don't have to huddle next to my computer every day, pounding the refresh button on your stupid, non-updating thread! :D

ivgalvez 2010-04-12 07:30

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
Has anyone managed to use any of these programs with Romanji characters? I'm also interested in learning a few japanese words for my next journey this summer.

imdense 2010-04-13 18:03

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jaem (Post 606186)
Hmm.. I don't know anything about the series you're using (or any other Japanese Language series, for that matter), but if you could tell me what file format the flash cards are provided in, that would be a good start. Also, I assume that the flash cards are subject to copyright by the publisher? My friend tells me that Anki's library may have something similar, but I would assume that they wouldn't have permission to reproduce something such as this. You could also ask around about this on the Anki mailing list.
Is Anki stable on the N900 yet? I've been waiting for it for other reasons.

thanks. ill try to find some flash cards and see if i can use them.

Anki is not stable on the n900 yet

imdense 2010-04-13 18:25

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FBergeron (Post 606284)
For toMOTko, it's easy because the glossary is already available here:

http://tomotko.sourceforge.net/en/glossaries.shtml

To use it, read the Getting started quickly section in the Help. You will find how to import an existing glossary. Be careful, you do not need to unzip the glossary file, import as is. The application wil unzip it for you.

The toMOTko application is not finished yet. I hope to complete it within a month. Nonetheless, even in its current state, it works well enough IMHO. You should have no problems to use it to learn Japanese.

If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.

ive tried this program already and there is no actions menu to import files. why is this? because of n900?

imdense 2010-04-13 18:31

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by magnuslu (Post 606189)
Hi,

Please send me the file and I'll have a look at loading it into QTeachMe. My email address is in the about box of the app. I'm using QTeachMe with Chinese characters, so it should be possible.

ill try to find the files and then ill send them two you.

imdense 2010-04-13 19:19

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
could the downloadable flashcards on the tomotko website work on qteachme?

Biga 2010-04-13 19:58

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
I have managed to run ankimaemi. Installed required dependencies (not mentioned in deb file) and fixed one bug to make "Open..." menu work.
There are still some problems, but it works for me.

There won't be any detailed instructions, it is quite easy (for an advanced user), just follow the error messages.

imdense 2010-04-13 22:26

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Biga (Post 609230)
I have managed to run ankimaemi. Installed required dependencies (not mentioned in deb file) and fixed one bug to make "Open..." menu work.
There are still some problems, but it works for me.

There won't be any detailed instructions, it is quite easy (for an advanced user), just follow the error messages.

Thanks for the advice but im not an advanced user.

FBergeron 2010-04-14 02:44

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
@imdense:

The help text needs to be updated a bit as the application looks a little bit different on N900. That's the last thing I will do before releasing the next version.

Here is what you should do.

To import an existing glossary:

1) Click the first item (My glossaries) of the list on the left side.
2) In the toMOTko menu (top center), you should have an item Import Data, click it.
3) Select the glossary file (in your case, it should be the file JBP-I.zip)
4) The words should be available in the application after that.

Now, to perform a quiz with some the imported words, you need to mark them for study. To do that, you click the checkboxes of the glossaries and also the checkboxes of the words that you want to learn (on the right side list).

To start a quiz, in the application menu, you will have an Start Quiz item, click it.

The Eye button reveals information gradually (you can click it more than once). Click the Green Circle button to indicate a right answer, or the Red X for a wrong answer.

By default, I think that each word is asked at least 3 times (and more if you indicate a wrong answer). If it's too much for you, you can decrease the minimal number of times a word is asked in the Preferences (in the application menu) and set Quiz Length to 1.

If you see no Preferences item or no Import Data or no Start Quiz item in the application menu, it's probably because of this bug:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40875

Tell me if it works or not.

imdense 2010-04-14 17:41

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
[QUOTE=FBergeron;609628]@imdense:

The help text needs to be updated a bit as the application looks a little bit different on N900. That's the last thing I will do before releasing the next version.

Here is what you should do.

To import an existing glossary:

1) Click the first item (My glossaries) of the list on the left side.
2) In the toMOTko menu (top center), you should have an item Import Data, click it.
3) Select the glossary file (in your case, it should be the file JBP-I.zip)
4) The words should be available in the application after that.

Now, to perform a quiz with some the imported words, you need to mark them for study. To do that, you click the checkboxes of the glossaries and also the checkboxes of the words that you want to learn (on the right side list).

To start a quiz, in the application menu, you will have an Start Quiz item, click it.

The Eye button reveals information gradually (you can click it more than once). Click the Green Circle button to indicate a right answer, or the Red X for a wrong answer.

By default, I think that each word is asked at least 3 times (and more if you indicate a wrong answer). If it's too much for you, you can decrease the minimal number of times a word is asked in the Preferences (in the application menu) and set Quiz Length to 1.

If you see no Preferences item or no Import Data or no Start Quiz item in the application menu, it's probably because of this bug:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40875

Tell me if it works or not.[/QUOTE

had a look at that thread and it appears i have that bug. however, with no experience using smartphones, maemo, other apps, programming or systems, i dont think i can get it working unless i have a clear user friendly step by step guide. unless this happens then ill think ill wait until your final n900 version. thanks

FBergeron 2010-09-27 11:22

Re: Learning Japanese on N900 with Flashcards
 
Quote:

i dont think i can get it working unless i have a clear user friendly step by step guide. unless this happens then ill think ill wait until your final n900 version. thanks
@imdense

I had completely forgotten about this thread. I'm just wondering if you have given a try on the latest toMOTko version in testing repository. It should work properly on the N900 now.


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