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openfone 2010-04-14 22:08

Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Made a mistake on the n900, I have decided I need a phone, not a mobile Linux box. Am going to buy a HTC desire.

I thought I would enjoy the hacking side of it but to be honest I just don't use any of the cool stuff I would have a couple of years ago. Installed aircrack, nmap and a couple of other apps but never used them.

I was very disappointed in the MeeGo announcement 2 or 3 weeks after I bought it too. I am sick of waiting for PR 1.2 and God knows when Vodafone here in UK will release it even if it is published. I stupidly thought that since there is a lot of open source going on the phone would be updated all the time.

I will keep on monitoring the progress of MeeGo, let’s hope in a year or so it will be ready for prime time (phone wise).

Keep up the good work guys, the world needs the innovation you guys are bringing to the table. It’s just not for me.

jflatt 2010-04-14 22:16

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
...which runs on, linux

m165 2010-04-14 22:19

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Im not sure why people need to say they are getting rid of the N900 and switching elsewhere.

It's like supporting a football team and deciding to support another as they may not be doing well. Then going a match of who you first supported and shouting that you no longer support them because of X and Y reason, waiting to get beat up by the hooligans! A little pointless, but enjoy your new phone.

At least you say bye in a nice manour, unlike some people!

ear0wax 2010-04-14 22:21

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by openfone (Post 610937)
I stupidly thought that since there is a lot of open source going on the phone would be updated all the time.

And You also stupidly thought that Android will be updated more often but you will soon see that the Android release window is now much longer.

openfone 2010-04-14 22:22

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
I posted this for a few reasons:

1. To vent
2. Maybe Nokia will see this and add 1 more to the list

jflatt: I know Andriod runs on Linux but at least it has a crap load of apps and is designed to be a phone.

openfone 2010-04-14 22:24

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
ear0wax: I know android will not be updated as often. new apps will certainly come out more often!

Benson 2010-04-14 22:24

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by openfone (Post 610937)
I was very disappointed in the MeeGo announcement 2 or 3 weeks after I bought it too. I am sick of waiting for PR 1.2 and God knows when Vodafone here in UK will release it even if it is published. I stupidly thought that since there is a lot of open source going on the phone would be updated all the time.

Not trying to talk you out of it -- if it's not for you, it's not for you -- but I'm pretty sure whenever PR1.2 drops, you'll get it. If vodafone (or anyone else) were bastardizing the default repos to control OTA updates, I'd have thought there'd be a bit of noise about it...

HtheB 2010-04-14 22:25

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
I hope you do realize that the N900 is capable of booting Android..... :)

manavs 2010-04-14 22:25

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by m165 (Post 610957)
Im not sure why people need to say they are getting rid of the N900 and switching elsewhere.

I agree..why don't people just leave quietly instead of making a big deal about it.

lardman 2010-04-14 22:26

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
No hw keyboard.

My wife has an HTC Tattoo, which is fine except for the lack of a hw keyboard (which drives both of us mad). This is no doubt exacerbated by the smaller screen on the Tattoo, but I wouldn't touch a phone without a keyboard.

ffarber 2010-04-14 22:50

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manavs (Post 610968)
I agree..why don't people just leave quietly instead of making a big deal about it.

Hard to know, I am willing to bet 9 out of 10 do leave quietly (when I finally put my N800 down a whiles ago I told no one and then returned to the N900 because someone else gave it to me after giving up on it quietly) and it is not wrong for people to try and tell Nokia why. Probably doesn't help though.

Fred

skalogre 2010-04-14 22:54

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Shouldn't this thread be in Competitors?

Anyway, you realised that the N900 is not for you because having a good phone is more important than having a pocketable computer. Which is the right approach. I am happy with Rover because I wanted a pocketable computer first, phone second.

Enjoy your new device :)

roger_27 2010-04-14 22:54

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Omfg not this kind of post again

BigLebowski 2010-04-14 22:59

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manavs (Post 610968)
I agree..why don't people just leave quietly instead of making a big deal about it.

I disagree. It opens up the oportunity to reflect about why you bought your N900 and whether your expectations were met - or not. Maybe you don't think about this (that's fine with me) - I certainly do.

I don't see anything wrong with sharing these thoughts - the OP wasn't bashing the N900 or something.

Laughing Man 2010-04-14 23:00

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 610964)
I hope you do realize that the N900 is capable of booting Android..... :)

Not to the point where its performance is similar to a dedicated Android phone.

nosa101 2010-04-14 23:00

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
we need to know this because?

skalogre 2010-04-14 23:00

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BigLebowski (Post 611009)
I disagree. It opens up the oportunity to reflect about why you bought your N900 and whether your expectations were met - or not. Maybe you don't think about this (that's fine with me) - I certainly do.

I don't see anything wrong with sharing these thoughts - the OP wasn't bashing the N900 or something.

Should still be in the Competitors section.

superg05 2010-04-14 23:04

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HtheB (Post 610964)
I hope you do realize that the N900 is capable of booting Android..... :)

i did'nt think it was working that well but the desire has a 1ghz snapdragon

Astute 2010-04-14 23:15

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by openfone (Post 610937)
Made a mistake on the n900, I have decided I need a phone, not a mobile Linux box. Am going to buy a HTC desire.

I thought I would enjoy the hacking side of it but to be honest I just don't use any of the cool stuff I would have a couple of years ago. Installed aircrack, nmap and a couple of other apps but never used them.

I was very disappointed in the MeeGo announcement 2 or 3 weeks after I bought it too. I am sick of waiting for PR 1.2 and God knows when Vodafone here in UK will release it even if it is published. I stupidly thought that since there is a lot of open source going on the phone would be updated all the time.

I will keep on monitoring the progress of MeeGo, let’s hope in a year or so it will be ready for prime time (phone wise).

Keep up the good work guys, the world needs the innovation you guys are bringing to the table. It’s just not for me.



Prob wise if you now posted on an Android forum eh ??

;)

skalogre 2010-04-14 23:16

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Astute (Post 611021)
Prob wise if you posted on an Android forum eh ?? ;)

Very astute observation!

:p

Astute 2010-04-14 23:22

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skalogre (Post 611022)
Very astute observation!

:p


Aparently so :cool: Any way i'm off to the BMW forum to tell them about my Mercedes :p

telnet 2010-04-14 23:32

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Maybe the N900 should come with a warning:

Not designed with noobs in mind??

A bit like the Yorkie advert...... :)
(UK advert)

Seems this phone is being been mis-sold in the shops......

A mate of mine went into CFW and he is a complete technophobe. This guy has trouble powering his laptop up at work!

They tried selling him the N900.......

Bratag 2010-04-15 00:54

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by openfone (Post 610962)
ear0wax: I know android will not be updated as often. new apps will certainly come out more often!

let me tell you about android apps. I wrote a bunch of them. I wrote a craigslist app entirely built because the browser didnt handle uploading pic to clist. I havent released an update to it in 6+ months. Its still the most useful and popular clist app in the market. I think you might be unpleasantly surprised by the number of piss poor apps the market contains.

kingoddball 2010-04-15 01:40

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
I have purchased the N900 because the iPhone has lost a lot of it's hackability! I used to use it for all kinds of mischief but it's unreliable for that kind of fun.. N900 should fix that problem! (I also have an Pandora on preorder, which I may cancel now that I have bought an N900)

felbutss 2010-04-15 02:02

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by superg05 (Post 611014)
i did'nt think it was working that well but the desire has a 1ghz snapdragon

But with no dedicated GPU. try running full 3D games. :D n900 stock has 600MHz cpu and 430MHz gpu = 1030GHZ

radiowc 2010-04-15 02:04

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
well, he will be back, again just like sissy girl. . . he just want to get some attention.

bandora 2010-04-15 02:10

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by openfone (Post 610960)
I posted this for a few reasons:

1. To vent
2. Maybe Nokia will see this and add 1 more to the list

jflatt: I know Andriod runs on Linux but at least it has a crap load of apps and is designed to be a phone.

People don't understand that this is a community website and not an official Nokia support website.. Go to discussions.nokia.com and post this there.. maybe, MAYBE someone at Nokia would see it and actually care..

HellFlyer 2010-04-15 02:43

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by felbutss (Post 611154)
But with no dedicated GPU. try running full 3D games. :D n900 stock has 600MHz cpu and 430MHz gpu = 1030GHZ

Moreover if you overclock Cortex A8 to 800MHz and 500Mhz gpu it will be 1300MHZ!!!! :D

It always amuses me when I read tags of threads :D

Take a look....its true though

Regarding the thread I really understand how you feel but if you give up so easily I assume you do same with other things in your life which is bad :cool:

samuch 2010-04-15 03:22

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
I'm glad to see his opinions on why it didn't work out. Hopefully it helps others make educated decisions before purchasing. I like to read a balance of "omg I love my 900 because of X Y Z" and "not for me and here's why".

On the Android note, I switched from Android to the N900. He is right that Android is more "developed" in that there is wider selection of apps/tools. While 90% suck, the 10% that don't are a huge number.

In my opinion, where Android fails, the N900 succeeds and vice versa. Too bad we can't smash 'em together and call it Meego :).

kennibal 2010-04-15 03:53

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Maybe he doesn't do or know more about 'Researching' of what he buys.

On my experience, N97 is more of a phone but it disappointed me (performance-wise).

But N900 is not focused on being a phone, but I easily get used to it! :)

Thesandlord 2010-04-15 03:59

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
@samuch

Where does Android Fail? I am probably going to get an Android phone later and want to know what the bad parts are. My friends with Droid's love theirs, and they have a bunch of neat and very useful features!

SAABoy 2010-04-15 04:04

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by felbutss (Post 611154)
But with no dedicated GPU. try running full 3D games. :D n900 stock has 600MHz cpu and 430MHz gpu = 1030GHZ

So is this true or not?

ysss 2010-04-15 04:07

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SAABoy (Post 611228)
So is this true or not?

The numbers are correct, but you don't just apply kindergarten level math operations to it to get the actual performance approximation.

salah99 2010-04-15 04:07

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 611225)
@samuch

Where does Android Fail? I am probably going to get an Android phone later and want to know what the bad parts are. My friends with Droid's love theirs, and they have a bunch of neat and very useful features!

I have the same question

Slick 2010-04-15 04:26

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SAABoy (Post 611228)
So is this true or not?

no

it doesn't work that way you can't simply add cpu and gpu ratings that way to sum up icp

openfone 2010-04-15 06:05

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
I must admit another reason I posted was to inflame the fanboys :)

I did research before buying the N900, I am reasonably happy with the N900 as a phone but I think the change in direction to MeeGo will slow the development down quite a lot for at least 6 months and therefore slow/put off the developers of apps.
I am not a coder (and never will be). The apps are what make a phone and the N900 was going to be a device that would be both, a phone and a computer. I am happy with the computer part, although it turned out I have left my hacking days behind me.
By the way, if Nokia aren’t reading these posts, I would be very surprised.

steev182 2010-04-15 06:23

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
If you want a phone not a computer, I think you're going to be equally disappointed with an Android phone as well.

I think from what you want, a Blackberry/E72 would be more suitable.

Mainly because they're more focused on the Voice side than Maemo or Android.

berty 2010-04-15 06:30

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Join the ship, jumped overboard myself to a lovely iphone.

skalogre 2010-04-15 16:22

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by berty (Post 611346)
Join the ship, jumped overboard myself to a lovely iphone.

Good for you. Don't drown in the iTunes kiddie pool :p

rmerren 2010-04-15 16:35

Re: Have decided to go Android, I need a phone, not a computer
 
If we had Java on the N900, someone could port the android API and we would be able to run Android apps on the N900. Nobody would actually use the Android apps, but we could all brag about how cool our phone is where this kind of thing is possible.


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