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johnel 2010-04-16 08:07

Nokia Should Buy Palm !!??
 
Had a good chuckle at this article at The Register this morning.

Just what Nokia needs yet another OS and dilution of Nokia's resources.

The only decent thing Palm might have left is their patent portfolio.

zimon 2010-04-16 08:19

Re: Nokia Should Buy Palm !!??
 
Palm is useless. Maybe for free.
Apple would have lots of extra cash but is not interested either, so the patent portfolio probably isnt that interesting.

fms 2010-04-16 08:36

Re: Nokia Should Buy Palm !!??
 
May Lenovo buy Palm and go bankrupt!

geneven 2010-04-16 08:37

Re: Nokia Should Buy Palm !!??
 
With Palm going under, what happens to all that Garnet software? If Nokia got hold of some of that, maybe they could achieve for the N900 some things they had on the N800 and N810, such as compatibility with Audible.com books, like iPads, iTouches, and IPods do.

HangLoose 2010-04-16 08:40

Re: Nokia Should Buy Palm !!??
 
I am tired of the Americans trying to dump their sh*tty companies on our Europeans backs.

This guy talks about webOS, Android and MeeGo as if they are totally different beasts. Poor bloke. Services are the thing that Nokia should concentrate and thats what I think they are going with MeeGo. "Creating" a new OS that is developed by everyone and dump all Ovi stuff on it and make money.

Let Palm fail.

tissot 2010-04-16 08:52

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I actually thought that the atricle would be one of the hundreds that again don't even know about Qt or Maemo, MeeGo and just talk how would buying Palm is a no brainer for Nokia, but then most of those articles are from Silicon Valley or just from NA.

Still about Nokia buying Palm. Well Nokia at least in theory got it all planned out with S40, Symbian Foundation and Harmattan/MeeGo and we need to remember that 2010 Q4 and 2011 Q1 is when we have gone full circle with Symbian and Maemo.
Palm just simply put doesn't fit to that picture.

About Palm patents that i have been hearing i don't really believe they got anything there. Sure they are one of the older companies, but Nokia owns whole GSM sector patents pretty much on it's own, but i don't know if Palm got presense in CDMA patents(i doubt they do when Qualcomm rules there). I woulnd't really buy a company that loses money every quarter for couple of UI patents filled in USA.

shadowjk 2010-04-16 09:06

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Well I'd buy Palm to get the people who designed the supposedly excellent UI. But then I wouldn't want to inherit WebOS and a range of devices... and getting rid of those would make people hate.

Vinh 2010-04-16 09:10

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I'm not clear why there's so much animosity toward Palm. More competition is good. They showed that multitasking can be run efficiently on an ARM Cortex processor, when Apple said otherwise. Apple added "multitasking". And from what I've read, they have the best notification system and quite an intuitive way to kill tasks (flicking applications up). Also, it seems they've built their system mostly on gestures that are well thought out. They do bring interesting things to the table.

attila77 2010-04-16 09:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 613111)
May Lenovo buy Palm and go bankrupt!

Who is going to make me thinkpads, then ?

But seriously, TFA's author likes WebOS and that's about it. I would say he's not too aware of what/how Qt works, as then he would realize there's nothing preventing you from writing whole apps in QtScript (~javascript), Python, C++, plus you get the QtWebkit connection, etc, etc. All in all Qt is a hidden gem with regard to mobile development (especially once QML and QtMobility sets in), if it has a serious drawback, it's probably the curse of plenty - so many things that can be done in so many ways.

fms 2010-04-16 09:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 613153)
Who is going to make me thinkpads, then ?

Nobody is making thinkpads any more anyway. Lenovo produces garbage with "ThinkPad" shoddily plastered on top.

Quote:

But seriously, TFA's author likes WebOS and that's about it.
But of course. There has been constant stream of "Nokia/HTC/Apple are losers, should buy Palm, switch to WebOS" pundits for months now. I guess few of them understand that the last successful software platform Palm produced was Garnet, and that happened years ago.

attila77 2010-04-16 09:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 613167)
Nobody is making thinkpads any more anyway. Lenovo produces garbage with "ThinkPad" shoddily plastered on top.

I know, even the keyboard layout is wrong nowadays. Was thinking more along the lines of the Maemo questionnaire's "Holding this device and looking at it feels enjoyable" approach :D

www.rzr.online.fr 2010-04-16 10:47

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well does buying patents worth it , when opensource is the core of the strategy ?

Also can webos be forked ?

Kwljunky 2010-04-16 17:37

Re: Nokia Should Buy Palm !!??
 
Its like its fails then someone tries to bring it back up and then it fails again, like Jordan if your from the uk. The ho does not know when he heck to quit, seriously their both like zombies;
Both never learn to quit.
Both always have something happen to them and dont get the freaking message.
Both very very very annoying.
Both not very useful in any sense.
Both talk to much, zombies dont talk but yano the 'ERGHHHH' does get pretty annoying after a while.

So the zombie solution is simply kill them.
So what I am saying is..
LET THEM ROT

radiowc 2010-04-16 17:41

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Then it will become MeeGoPalm. LOL

TA-t3 2010-04-17 15:12

Re: Nokia Should Buy Palm !!??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 613112)
With Palm going under, what happens to all that Garnet software? If Nokia got hold of some of that, maybe they could achieve for the N900 some things they had on the N800 and N810, such as compatibility with Audible.com books, like iPads, iTouches, and IPods do.

Garnet, and the Garnet VM software for our Nokia devices, is owned by Access, not Palm, so that won't be affected. As for the 30000 PalmOS applications out there, most are not from Palm, although some are (versamail, a browser, Contacts, etc.)

Lord Raiden 2010-04-17 16:42

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Hey, in defense of Palm, they're a great company with awesome products. The problem is the upper management. They're a pack of ape brained idiots. Someone needs to buy them up and fire the lot of them, then part out the company, take the best parts of it, and then sell off the rest. That'd be such a win for everyone. And if you don't believe me, I've seen the Palm Pre and other Palm products. Again, they're great, just poorly managed.

maluka 2010-04-17 16:47

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NO! Palm has been dead to me after the Treo 650. Their biggest mistake was making Windows phones instead of making UI changes to Palm OS.
I used to love Palm so much! :(

inkjected 2010-04-17 16:57

Re: Nokia Should Buy Palm !!??
 
Palm's key patent is Integrated Handheld Computing and Telephony System and Services, which is pretty much required on all smartphones.
http://www.google.com/patents/about?...BAJ&dq=7555727

I think that owning just that patent is very beneficial, as Nokia will be able to claim royalties and thus have more control in the smartphone market.


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