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brera 2010-04-18 12:29

MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
What do you want N 900 user, that we have a Maemo 5 or MeeGo 1.0 on your N 900???

Which of this two os you want on your device in future and why?

gri 2010-04-18 12:31

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
I have a déjà-vu

Deaconclgi 2010-04-18 12:51

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
I don't like the look of the Intel Meego and don't want that on my N900. Of course I will install it as soon as it is available but I hope that Nokia shows its UI that will be flashier than Maemo and Intel Meego so I can permantly install it on my N900

Ahmed360 2010-04-18 12:52

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Meego will not be released officially for the N900...

So i think Maemo would be better choice

Chrome 2010-04-18 12:57

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
You're asking like we have a choice... we're doomed with maemo 5 forever, Maemo community will soon vanish and turn to MeeGo community.

brera 2010-04-18 13:13

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrome (Post 616041)
You're asking like we have a choice... we're doomed with maemo 5 forever, Maemo community will soon vanish and turn to MeeGo community.

I think that Nokia will not do that, this is not fair for N900 owner, I am really satisfied with this device but would not like that Nokia do that.

Probably we can install a MeeGo 1.0 but I hope also that application create for MeeGo will work on N900 because I like a Maemo 5 too much. Just want from Nokia too support N900 a little more:rolleyes:

AlMehdi 2010-04-18 13:23

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
As long we have community gods like Titan we should be safe. If it turns out that Meego don't have support for n900 i think it should be fairly easy to port it. Also the Meego are going to be supported on many devices armel and x86 so i am sure it will be alright... with that said...

I will probably stay with Maemo or equivalent like Moebian (which are being worked on right now). I am a Debian fanboy and plan to stay like that. One of the main reasons for that is that Debian got the best community support..

bandora 2010-04-18 13:56

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahmed360 (Post 616035)
Meego will not be released officially for the N900...

So i think Maemo would be better choice

And where's the proof of what you're saying?

ajflex 2010-04-18 14:14

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
why not? meego is two in one part maemo 6 and moblin 2.2.
my answer is yes
you can switch back at anytime

qgil 2010-04-18 14:54

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahmed360 (Post 616035)
Meego will not be released officially for the N900...

MeeGo will be released officially for the N900, since the N900 is the reference ARM hardware of the MeeGo project. See http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_re...or_my_N900_.3F and related questions in that wiki page.

zimon 2010-04-18 14:56

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brera (Post 616058)
Probably we can install a MeeGo 1.0 but I hope also that application create for MeeGo will work on N900 because I like a Maemo 5 too much. Just want from Nokia too support N900 a little more:rolleyes:

After PR1.2, I think there won't be any firmware releases from Nokia in Maemo5.
It is a question of dividing resources, so they probably will consentrate fully on Meego after PR1.2. That is why it is not good to hurry with PR1.2 until all known bugs and design flaws are really fixed.

qgil 2010-04-18 14:59

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrome (Post 616041)
You're asking like we have a choice... we're doomed with maemo 5 forever, Maemo community will soon vanish and turn to MeeGo community.

Maemo 5 users will have choices. Some of them will prefer to stay with Maemo 5 updates, some of them will prefer to jump to MeeGo updates (probably with different flavors to choose depending on your preferences).

Ulrik 2010-04-18 14:59

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 616151)
MeeGo will be released officially for the N900, since the N900 is the reference ARM hardware of the MeeGo project. See http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_re...or_my_N900_.3F and related questions in that wiki page.

That sounds very good (although Maemo5 is good) but will Meego come with the "default UI" or with "Nokia (Harmattan) UI (and Nokia applications)" ???

Dave999 2010-04-18 15:04

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
I can't really see the advantges with meego for n900(more than its funny with new stuff). Dont think meego will kick out maemo 5, at least not on my n900...New devices is another story. Just my take on this.

qgil 2010-04-18 15:06

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
I'm impressed by the amount of expert analysts in this thread, giving advice about the future without any hesitation... ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by zimon (Post 616153)
After PR1.2, I think there won't be any firmware releases from Nokia in Maemo5.
It is a question of dividing resources, so they probably will consentrate fully on Meego after PR1.2. That is why it is not good to hurry with PR1.2 until all known bugs and design flaws are really fixed.

PR1.2 was frozen weeks ago when the SDK was released and we are hurrying as much as QA test results allow. MeeGo development has nothing to do with all this. See http://wiki.maemo.org/What_can_we_re...or_Maemo_5_.3F and related questions in that wiki page.

qgil 2010-04-18 15:07

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulrik (Post 616156)
That sounds very good (although Maemo5 is good) but will Meego come with the "default UI" or with "Nokia (Harmattan) UI (and Nokia applications)" ???

Both. There will be MeeGo releases by the MeGo project to everybody and MeeGo releases by Nokia for Nokia devices.

Ulrik 2010-04-18 15:14

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 616167)
Both. There will be MeeGo releases by the MeGo project to everybody and MeeGo releases by Nokia for Nokia devices.

Both for the N900?

(Just to be clear :))

nilchak 2010-04-18 15:21

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
That's a positive development in Meego that I always welcome - choices and support (from Nokia).

I have seen the Zaurus die due to lack of support (not lack of choices though) and I am glad Nokia is taking this path to wider acceptance of Maemo/Meego by going this dual route.

And I am glad to hear that Meego will be supported on the N900. All these contrary 'expect analysis' (read rumours and innuendos) flying left and right was getting the better of me in these forums.

ste-phan 2010-04-18 15:23

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Definitively Maemo 5 for N900.
The user-interface rocks. What are they ever going to improve about that? :confused:
Intel as as strategical partner is going to influence that for the better? Not so sure.
Bring new and plenty of icons on your MeeGo desktop: most likely.

We may be looking another Android with wider focus that has functionality wise nothing to add to the platform of mobile phones/ or pocket-able computers.

Of course I will check out Meego when its value has been proven and sung upon.

But right now, concerning the N900 I have a feeling that Meego is going to break what is just about to be nicely fixed.

msa 2010-04-18 15:23

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
i just hope you can somehow transfer all contacts, wallpapers and oder custom user-stuff to meego when installing it.

bandora 2010-04-18 15:27

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nilchak (Post 616196)
That's a positive development in Meego that I always welcome - choices and support (from Nokia).

I have seen the Zaurus die due to lack of support (not lack of choices though) and I am glad Nokia is taking this path to wider acceptance of Maemo/Meego by going this dual route.

And I am glad to hear that Meego will be supported on the N900. All these contrary 'expect analysis' (read rumours and innuendos) flying left and right was getting the better of me in these forums.

And that's why reading wikis and digging deeper into details *cough* by performing a search *cough* will always result a happy face.. just like this: :)

Ahmed360 2010-04-18 15:28

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 616093)
And where's the proof of what you're saying?

Quote:

Originally Posted by qgil (Post 616151)
MeeGo will be released officially for the N900, since the N900 is the reference ARM hardware of the MeeGo project.

I asked some "people" in Nokia, they told me it will not be released OFFICIALLY, instead it will be available to download in external firmware packages (like with windows mobile scene)
Believe it or not...its up to you

HellFlyer 2010-04-18 15:40

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zimon (Post 616153)
After PR1.2, I think there won't be any firmware releases from Nokia in Maemo5.
It is a question of dividing resources, so they probably will consentrate fully on Meego after PR1.2. That is why it is not good to hurry with PR1.2 until all known bugs and design flaws are really fixed.

Nokia wont do that , there are always more bugs...they will support N900 for at least two years. MeeGo 1.0 wont be as good as Maemo , also we still need Ovi Maps to work properly

I read couple of days ago that Nokia is going to release another Maemo device in summer.

zimon 2010-04-18 15:46

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 616223)

I read couple of days ago that Nokia is going to release another Maemo device in summer.

URI?
Source?

Laughing Man 2010-04-18 15:54

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahmed360 (Post 616208)
I asked some "people" in Nokia, they told me it will not be released OFFICIALLY, instead it will be available to download in external firmware packages (like with windows mobile scene)
Believe it or not...its up to you

Err... Qgil works for Nokia (community relations I think). Though I think your right in some way, it won't be supported officially (e.g. Ovi Maps or whatever)

lcuk 2010-04-18 15:59

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
both

because the n900 is just that awesome

tissot 2010-04-18 16:29

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Harmattan/MeeGo no doubt.
To me Harmattan/MeeGo is just next version and clearly better than Maemo 5, but that will of course really seen with first device releases. Talking about Harmattan/MeeGo.

bandora 2010-04-18 18:39

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahmed360 (Post 616208)
I asked some "people" in Nokia, they told me it will not be released OFFICIALLY, instead it will be available to download in external firmware packages (like with windows mobile scene)
Believe it or not...its up to you

You do understand that Quim Gil (qgil) is a Nokia employee right? And not just any employee.. Read more about him and you will know that whatever he says, is true.. Believe it or not... it's up to you...

and @laughing man... Why wouldn't Ovi Maps not be supported?? The new Ovi maps afaik is going to be created under the QT framework.. and afaik MeeGo runs QT natively.. So what's the problem there?

Laughing Man 2010-04-18 18:46

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 616431)
You do understand that Quim Gil (qgil) is a Nokia employee right? And not just any employee.. Read more about him and you will know that whatever he says, is true.. Believe it or not... it's up to you...

and @laughing man... Why wouldn't Ovi Maps not be supported?? The new Ovi maps afaik is going to be created under the QT framework.. and afaik MeeGo runs QT natively.. So what's the problem there?

Depends if Nokia offers it on Ovi Store for free, or only bundles it with new Nokia devices running Meego.

agogo 2010-04-18 19:27

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
How can you expect people to choose between an available OS and one still in the making?
You should ask the same question in 6-12 months ;)

Ronaldo 2010-04-18 19:34

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
question is, will Meego on n900 run apps like picodrive,snes, facebrick, fmms etc? or will they have to be remade in Qt?

future is bright future is........

brera 2010-04-18 19:36

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agogo (Post 616493)
How can you expect people to choose between an available OS and one still in the making?
You should ask the same question in 6-12 months ;)

As you can see a few days ago we are able to seen some picture and specification of MeeGo os which will be on handheld probably in June, and when we can install on our device...

http://carrypad.com/files/2010/04/me...ldfeatures.jpg
http://carrypad.com/files/2010/04/meegotimescales.jpg

ZogG 2010-04-18 19:37

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
i say anything that works and supported. lets leave it to nokia to decide how to call it and which one it would be. the important thing as i said are support and stability

zimon 2010-04-18 19:52

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agogo (Post 616493)
How can you expect people to choose between an available OS and one still in the making?
You should ask the same question in 6-12 months ;)

Yes, too early to decide either way.

If Meego is better some day for my uses, I swich to it. If not, I probably boot time to time either one from the boot menu to test where Meego is going. If most of the programs now available in extras and testing are not somehow able to be ported to Meego, I probably won't like Meego very much.

bandora 2010-04-18 20:44

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronaldo (Post 616506)
question is, will Meego on n900 run apps like picodrive,snes, facebrick, fmms etc? or will they have to be remade in Qt?

future is bright future is........

I am sure they can be run on MeeGo, but those apps might need some tweaks here and there to make them work.. one of them would be the packaging (from deb to rpm)..

Texrat 2010-04-18 21:08

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ZogG (Post 616511)
i say anything that works and supported. lets leave it to nokia to decide how to call it and which one it would be. the important thing as i said are support and stability

That appears to sum up the overall sentiment. But I would add "avoids or reduces confusion". :D

(poll needs an "either one" option)

brera 2010-04-18 21:13

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 616646)
That appears to sum up the overall sentiment. But I would add "avoids or reduces confusion". :D

(poll needs an "either one" option)

what either option do you want? And how change a poll?

tissot 2010-04-18 22:10

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bandora (Post 616598)
I am sure they can be run on MeeGo, but those apps might need some tweaks here and there to make them work.. one of them would be the packaging (from deb to rpm)..

Harmattan/MeeGo still uses deb, right?

maxximuscool 2010-04-18 22:21

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
definately not MeeGo 1.0 lol.. why? Version 1.0 is also the buggiest point of OS. I'll take my bet on it. Version 1.1 is the safest bet.

HellFlyer 2010-04-18 23:21

Re: MeeGo 1.0 or Maemo 5
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zimon (Post 616230)
URI?
Source?

http://www.electronista.com/articles....large.screen/


Its not 100% but its possible. I think we all agree that not too many people gonna spend 500+ on a phone:D so if they release budget Maemo it might help to make it more popular


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