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lpnalda@yahoo.com 2007-03-03 13:42

Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
How well does it work as an mp3 player? Anyway to have the media player just play mp3's? so that when you're listening to your mp3's it doesn't jump into a movie or something? Also is there any shuffling of songs possible? Is the headphone jack a standard 1/8"?, should I sell my ipod yet? Also what's the best way to transfer songs? Bluetooth from the computer or card reader. Any problems with drm? Thanks in Advance.

Milhouse 2007-03-03 15:39

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
The default Media Player is fine at playing mp3s, and it won't "jump into a movie" under normal circumstances, even if you ask to play all tracks. The Media Player maintains a library of media files and you play your music media having selected by Album, Artist, Genre etc. via a hierarchical list. Playlists are also supported.

The headphone jack is the standard 3.5mm socket.

The Media Player supports Random and Repeat play modes.

Sell your iPod? Yes, it will help finance the two 8GB SDHC cards you'll be needing to feed your N800. :)

The best way to transfer music is to mount the SD cards on your PC in a card reader. Alternatively you can mount the N800 as a USB mass storage device and copy the files, but this will most likely be slower than mounting the cards directly in a card reader.

"Any problems with drm?" - yes, it sucks but that's probably not what you meant. DRM isn't supported on the N800, so tracks with DRM won't work.

Robert Newman 2007-03-03 15:43

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
Yes, I do. And it works very well. I too have an iPod, and no, I won't be selling it in favor of the Nokia. The N800 coupled with eMusic work very well together. I can download songs from eMusic and immediately listen to them with media player. Also my music that I download is always available for re-download for no additional charge unlike iTunes. The quality is very good but not iPod quality. Hope this helps.

brendan 2007-03-03 15:53

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
i have a 5th gen ipod, and i dont use it for the video... i had a 770 until yesterday (sold it and will get the n800 shortly...) , and i would use it for video over an ipod or psp any day.

i use my ipod becuase i have the itrip for it, and can listen to my ipod over my car or home stereo. also, the 4500+ mp3s i have wouldnt fit on two 8GB SD cards, though i could get rid of what i dont listen to, and prune the collection down a bit.

i run linux on my rig at home, and i use amarok which handles ipods and works with my nokia for managing mp3s and playlists. i much prefer it than that ghastly itunes crap.

z3bum 2007-03-03 16:10

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
I I use Canola Player for mp3 playback and the internal player. They work fine. Found
the fm radio plugin, and it works great as well, especially with my Bose qc2
headphones. The N800 is really the swiss army knife of gadgets! I am writing this post using the finger keyboard, and my hometown's wifi network, while sitting outside at a coffee shop. The N800 is really the swiss army knife of gadgets!

brendan 2007-03-03 16:16

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
i have often regarded "swiss army knife" syndrome as doing many things, all of them poorly. i find that not to be the case with the IT devices. "Jack of All Trades" has the short coming "Master of None". does anyone know of a cliche to accurately capture the versatility of these devices with their uncomprimising quality? Hmmm...

itkach 2007-03-03 16:38

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
I tried to use N800 as an audio player when Canola came out. I abandoned the idea for now and switched back to my old Samsung Yepp, mainly because software (built in Media Player, Canola, mplayer, Ogg Player) is just not good for this. The first two are built around the idea of a media library automatically built from media discovered on your memory cards. Unfortunately this is limiting to the point of being unusable: audio files I collected over the years are in different formats (mp3s, oggs, even mp2s and wavs) and very few of them are properly tagged. All of them, however, are well organized in folders and files have useful names. So all I need is to say play all from this folder, and there is no player on N800 (as far as I know) that would do that. Ogg Player is very limited in many respects. MPlayer is almost does it for me, even though using it from command line on N800 is rather painful, but unfortunately it resets the volume to default value for each song it plays, and that kills it as an audio player.

Also, the process of crawling the file system to build media library (done both by Media Player and Canola, I believe) is quite intrusive - takes up CPU and sometimes prevents mounting of memory cards when connecting the device via USB. This is just annoying...

Quality of N800's sound is not bad though. All we need is right software...

geneven 2007-03-03 19:29

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
II use mine to play audiobooks all the time. I have considered jogging with it, but it
doesn't seem well suited to that task; finding the volume icon would be a hassle, for example.

YoDude 2007-03-03 22:14

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan (Post 37505)
i have often regarded "swiss army knife" syndrome as doing many things, all of them poorly. i find that not to be the case with the IT devices. "Jack of All Trades" has the short coming "Master of None". does anyone know of a cliche to accurately capture the versatility of these devices with their uncomprimising quality? Hmmm...

I don't know about "Swiss Army Knife" but I just realized today that the N800 has the same speed processor and twice the on board RAM as my first Sony Vaio notebook...

With 2, 8 gig cards it will have 33% more storage than the Sony's 12 gig hard drive. :)

disq 2007-03-03 23:23

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
well, I use it and I don't like it, the software just sucks. 770's default media player was better in terms of usability. I even blogged about it at http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/disq

CliffOn 2007-03-04 03:47

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
I use media streamer 1.212 in conjunction with Fuppes UPnP server via wifi with a nslu2 as the central storage device, works anywhere you have wifi without the tiresome selecting and copying to card oand if you just select all your albums and add to playlist and select random 'on' you will be listening to your own radio for a very long time. fuppes takes about 10 minutes per 1000 songs to build a database so even if you have 10000 songs heh not that long.

DCr33P 2007-03-04 10:43

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
For THAT (using my n800 as an mp3 player), I DEFINITELY need an equalizer!
I dont get it, cause EVERY mobile phone has something like an mp3 player feature, even with an equalizer. I suppose even my refrigerator would have an equalizer, if it could play mp3's...:rolleyes:
@Nokia: whhhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!!? :confused:

Texrat 2007-03-05 16:17

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 37523)
II use mine to play audiobooks all the time. I have considered jogging with it, but it
doesn't seem well suited to that task; finding the volume icon would be a hassle, for example.

The right case, and a headset with a volume control (or simply one of the add-ons you can get for the job) should work, shouldn't it?

mobiledivide 2007-03-05 18:31

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
I I use the Canola player, and it works pretty well. The music player on my E70 is
probably not much better and I like the album arts. The N800 is definitely a Swiss Army
knife, I use it for browsing more than my laptop now. wishIng for a good MS document viewer though.

DCr33P 2007-03-05 19:27

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
Why am I the only one who thinks an equalizer is important? :(
What's wrong with the world??? :)

Texrat 2007-03-05 19:29

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
You're not the only one. Several people have expressed a desire for an equalizer. I'd like one, and I think the volume should also be boosted.

DCr33P 2007-03-05 20:17

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
God, thank you very much... I am NOT the only one! Texrat, you are the man! ;)

Milhouse 2007-03-05 22:03

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 37745)
I'd like one, and I think the volume should also be boosted.

There's a law (possibly only in France) that restricts the volume of personal audio devices and I know that all European iPods (French or not) had their volume artificially restricted.

You could hack these European iPods to restore the louder US volume level, and I wonder if something similar is possible on the N800/770, assuming Nokia have implemented an even more extreme version of the original Apple policy ie. Nokia have penalised the whole planet because of the French? :)

fpp 2007-03-05 22:59

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
Sorry, can't hear you, please shout louder !

(these regulations are very recent, they sure weren't around when I was destroying my ears with my Sony Walkman :-)

Milhouse 2007-03-05 23:39

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
I bought my iPod (3rd gen?) about 3 years ago at which point I became aware it had been volume restricted by Apple, so this obscure regulation is not that recent. Thank God the iPod could be hacked leaving me free to abuse my own hearing! Nanny states... who needs 'em. :)

sapporobaby 2007-03-06 00:06

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DCr33P (Post 37754)
God, thank you very much... I am NOT the only one! Texrat, you are the man! ;)

Wie gehts mein freund. Ich bin wieder da. :) Ich habe das nicht probirt mit meine MMC flashing but mich das gleich.

My attempt at German. Actually I can speak it fluently but I can not write it as well. Actually if you have a good pair of headphones, you might not want an equalizer. I have a pair of Shure E5c's and use them with everything. I tend to like my music the way it was originally produced rather than coloration. I am not sure what you are using but if you can, get some very good (usually expensive) headphones and see how the N800 sounds. By the way, I do not like the sound from it. It is ok for phone calls via GizmoProject or listening to the radio via my home streamer (NiceCast by Rogue Amoeba for Mac) and from here I can leave my iPod at home and listen when I am out and about in downtown Helsinki.

fpp 2007-03-06 09:10

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
Well, the original Sony Walkman with tape cassettes is from the late 70s or so, by that standard the regulation is still recent :-)

gammer 2007-03-06 10:30

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
The earphones shipping with the 770 seem to be much more sensible/efficient than those shipped with the 800. Plugged into the 800 they allow quite a high volume, probably exceeding any limit given by current laws even in France.

wwward 2007-04-13 15:59

Re: Anyone use the n800 as their mp3 player?
 
Has anyone experienced difficulty downloading tracks from eMusic using the N800 built in browser? My downloads typically pause with "out of space" errors no matter how much free space or regardless of the storage I use.


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