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troff76 2010-04-20 06:55

"Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
According to this article here and this one on GSM Arena, 1.6 million apps are downloaded via OVI store each day, and N900 is one of the top 10 active devices. :eek:

Honestly, I don't buy that, simply because there is practically NOTHING to download for N900 on the OVI store. IMHO the numbers they issued are fake.

There are currently 25 applications for N900 on OVI, out of which only 3-4 are worth(?) tryng (not even using on a daily basis), plus 1-2 games. If I was to count on OVI, I would have never bought the N900.

Thank God for the maemo community (and the repos) for developing and porting such amazing software for this device.

Switch_ 2010-04-20 07:01

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by troff76 (Post 618868)
Thank God for the maemo community (and the repos) for developing and porting such amazing software for this device.

Couldn't agree more - thank God for the Maemo community of coders supreme :D

ivanzorkic 2010-04-20 07:31

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
To say that Ovi store people messed up is an understatement. But, if you think about it, it kinda makes sense that we don't have non-community apps at this moment. With Qt coming in PR1.2, there is no point in developing apps without it now, when everything from Maemo and Symbian to MeeGo will run Qt stuff. Qt will change a lot of things - not right away, but it will.

So I'm willing to give Nokia - and some future iteration of Ovi store - a chance. When Qt hits, I expect new apps, widgets, the works. The thing about Maemo and MeeGo - they have the best foundation to build upon. Someday in the future, when new Android apps start to require Android 3.0 and new phones, when new fancy iPhone apps start to require iPads and iPhone 4Gs, your little N900 will still push the latest and the brightest stuff, and its Ovi store will be filled with apps shared by other phones, netbooks, tablets and even symbian phones. Until then, yea, we have to make do with what we have. And imagine tomorrow when we start getting high quality apps sponsored by Nokia and Intel AND still have the best community in the mobile world.

smoku 2010-04-20 07:41

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
Qt is devil's spawn.

I love the current Hildon/GTK+/GNOME/Freedesktop/etc. state of affairs and mourn on Qt killing this great platform.

volt 2010-04-20 07:42

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
It's probably true. The N900 has a pre-installed link to the Ovi Store from the desktop, let's not forget. And users hammering to see if the Ovi Store finally has any much N900 content.

But... What does it even mean?

"The Nokia N900 has been in the top 10 performing devices in 3 of the top 10 most active countries for the last several weeks"

Top 10 performing devices? Yes, it's one of the fastest devices to check out the store and find nothing of interest? Or it has the best sing-and-dance act of any that is supported on the store?

Rauha 2010-04-20 07:44

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
Quotation in thread title is wrong. The link doesn't say that N900 is in top 10 for the whole Ovi store.

It's in top 10 in only three countries.

volt 2010-04-20 07:46

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
In three of the top ten countries.

HangLoose 2010-04-20 07:52

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
I dont know, lets start listing the devices so we can get a better perspective and put n900 on 10th place already:

1st N97 (mini?)
2nd E72
3rd 5800
4th X6
5th N86
6th N95 comes with music
7th E71
8th 5530
9th ???
10th N900

So depending on how you gruop you can put similar devices, like E72-E71 and so on, on the same group due to screen size.
Samething goes with 5800-X6, N97-N97 mini. So it depends on how they group. If Nokia is doing this I dont see how N900 could not be on 10th place.

ivanzorkic 2010-04-20 10:11

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 618906)
Qt is devil's spawn.

I love the current Hildon/GTK+/GNOME/Freedesktop/etc. state of affairs and mourn on Qt killing this great platform.

And why is it the devil's spawn, may I ask? Are we to take your word for it, or do you have some actual reasons.

Qt is cross-platform. More platforms - more apps. If anything will bring something even remotely close to App Store or Android Market on MeeGo, its Qt.

Matan 2010-04-20 10:15

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
This reminds me of the football season of 2004/05, when my favourite team was almost relegated.

Our second most prolific striker had zero goals.

smoku 2010-04-20 10:50

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ivanzorkic (Post 619056)
And why is it the devil's spawn, may I ask?

It's C++ based. This alone brings problems.
http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/defective.html

If that wasn't enough Qt introduced:
- own extension set to the C++ language implemented with custom preprocessor
- own template and library incompatible with C++ standard libraries

This creates closed ecosystem, dependent on Trolltech (now Nokia subcompany).


Quote:

Originally Posted by ivanzorkic (Post 619056)
Qt is cross-platform. More platforms - more apps. If anything will bring something even remotely close to App Store or Android Market on MeeGo, its Qt.

If having MeeGo Market means selling Free Software freedom for Qt, I won't go that way.

Cocoa, Dalvik, Qt - same crap, designed to tie developers to the chosen platform.

JohnLF 2010-04-20 11:29

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
Guys, come on. There's a simple reason the N900 is in the top 10 for downloads from Ovi - it's all of us who re-flash our device once a week and have to re-download everything!

:p

andrewfblack 2010-04-20 11:33

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
Well I really hope my soon to be released N900 Ovi Themes will help push the N900 up that list.

twigleaf1976 2010-04-21 09:04

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
Hangloose beat me to it. I was going to point out that I can barely think of 10 Nokia phones that have access to the Ovi store.

With that in mind it is easy to see how it makes it into the top 10. And 1.6 million hits has to be desparate people trying to find something, anything they can download and use from the ovi store.

cashclientel 2010-04-21 09:24

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
How do these Ovi stats compare to the competition? Very badly I presume.

efekt 2010-04-21 09:36

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smoku (Post 619106)
Cocoa, Dalvik, Qt - same crap, designed to tie developers to the chosen platform.

So how come MeeGo is supposed to be cross-platform, if QT is designed to do what you say it'd do?

volt 2010-04-21 15:24

Re: "Nokia N900 in the top 10 devices using OVI Store" ?
 
MeeGo IS a platform...

Dalvik ties you to a single platform, but it is much more restrictive than QT, harder to get around.

QT doesn't tie you to a single platform, it ties you to platforms that support QT, which is a set of platforms... QT hopefully brings the work of many Symbian developers to MeeGo. Interesting enough, Symbian/QT doesn't tie you to Nokia. Maemo pretty much did, so far.

Ovi's competition: Android's store is rapidly growing. Like, most of it's applications are two months old or less.


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