Silverlight for Meego
 

Saw that appeared something on Silverlight 4 here, and called my attention that the subtitle of the article named MeeGo.

Apparently they won't use Moonlight (available already for Linux), but that Intel is porting directly MS Silverlight code to MeeGo (hopely for all processors that it will run, not just Atom).

Can't say that i'm fully excited by Silverlight in particular, but the good news definately is how much Intel seems to want to push the platform..

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If it's platform specific in any way I doubt it will end up in the MeeGo core, especially not if it is Microsoft's code.

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Maybe because if Meego has to be on every consumer device it has to support Netflix streaming - hence Silverlight ?

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Nokia has an old MS agreement to port Silverlight to Maemo and Symbian (there's a Symbian beta already).

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this was already discussed I think. use the search.

netflix uses silverlight and believe they were(or have) hired an android developer. meego will probably soon follow. keep your fingers crossed.

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I think netflix streaming requires some form of drm though. At least i could never get moonlight to work with streaming.

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netflix wants to be on more devices. with meego being for all sorts of devices I don't see why they would not make some way of acheiving this. I don't think they will use moonlight. Actually, streaming worked for a little while i believe. The trick was to say you were using a mac and it would bypass the activex problem. They upgraded their drm and moonlight does not support it though so it wont work.

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If Silverlight is to be supplied, then it'll be by device vendors. It won't be part of the base MeeGo stack.

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Silverlight on Meego will be an epic win. Silverlight is a powerful platform.

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As long as it smooth and not as slow and unresponsive as flash it would be a positive. Hopefully it's not some half assed port.

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Silverlight is way better is every measurable fashion than the hot tranny mess that is adobe flash. Performance being the most important of which.

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Its in fact the same in almost every way... Including performance. Its slow (maybe SL4 is a little faster than Flash 10), steals focus, packaged, can't be indexed by search engines. And we don't actually know how fast each will be when hardware accelerated in ARM Linux... :)

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As long as it's not a CPU hog like Flash, im all for :)

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My problem is if Silverlight appears in MeeGo it will be Microsoft's implementation and this will probably mean closed-source and possibly a restrictive license.

Wouldn't it make sense to use Moonlight? At least the source code is available and no restrictive license too.

MeeGo is an open platform. The last thing we need is to start polluting it with proprietory solutions.

Re: Silverlight for Meego
 

I think you could use also Moonlight since the platform is so open. But Moonlight doesn't support DRM like Laughing Man said. I wonder why there isn't similar vector based solution which is open source? Vectors are nice for many things. Especially mobile users would benefit from vectors because of scalability. Yes, there is SVG but Flash and Silverlight offer more.

Re: Silverlight for Meego
 

Again, Silverlight will not appear in MeeGo.

Hardware vendors may choose to include it when they create their device images and make it available on the device when sold, but Silverlight will not be a part of MeeGo proper.

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Silverlight > Moonlight

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On my Dell Mini 1012 Silverlight performs 100x better than Flash. Besides Meego needs Silverlight, else no one can watch Netflix Instant, and thus move people away from the platform, including me :eek: We need Silverlight (Netflix)!

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Please god no. Silvelight and Moonlight can go die a horrible death

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No Flash, No Silverlight. I think nothing will make anybody fully happy. But as it stands, if I can turn it on, turn it off, remove it and (most importantly) update it, I'm for it.

Even soon to be ignored Ogg Theora. Give me options.

Re: Silverlight for Meego
 

Google for "silverlight moblin", plans for this existed also previously.

Regarding proprietary technology, I bet it's every bit as open as the official flash plugin.

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Personally I hate Flash because it's closed source, very resource hungry and as a result can exclude people from enjoying content.

But a simple fact is many people in this forum want it and Nokia/Adobe are unwilling to provide it.

Silverlight is obviously a competitor to Flash but at least an open version of it exists - moonlight, and generally works quite well.

The source code for moonlight is available and anyone can port it also the video codecs are available (binary only and seperate licence) it's not perfect but a much better solution than Flash.

It's bad enough there are closed-source drivers in MeeGo.

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Can anyone tech-knowledgeable can tell me what/how Silverlight works and how it compares to Flash and Qt?

So far I've got mixed ideas of it.

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WTF is silverlight? flash must be better if its used more, right?

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Silverlight is better if it is used less. Flash solved a problem that is now much less of a problem, so it is better if it is used less too.

\MS bringing silverlight in to "compete" with flash was a stroke of misguided stupidity. It just makes matters worse.

Don't install it, don't use it, and it will go away. Take the time to email sites using and let them know they have made a bit of an error.

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Open versions of Flash exist also, but suffer from the same problem as Moonlight--they are several versions behind the commercially developed products and are not feature compatible. The legality of the codecs in Moonlight is questionable since they contain Microsoft technology among others, and while this is covered by the Novell-Microsoft patent agreement, indemnifying Suse, it's my understanding that other Linux distributions cannot ship the codec pack.

As frustrating as Adobe Flash has always been, and as I type this on 64-bit Linux still clinging to the last 64-bit beta Flash library, I think we'd be in a much more precarious situation if the respective marketshares of Flash and Silverlight were reversed. I'm just not certain that Silverlight/Moonlight is the answer, regardless of the technical merits of the platform.

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There are no closed source drivers in MeeGo, there are closed source drivers in device-specific builds of MeeGo which are added by the device vendor. There are four such binary blobs in the N900 image, only two of which are drivers (and both userspace.)

The problem with Silverlight is that you either get stuck with the closed Microsoft version or you are using the perpetually behind Moonlight. Ditto with Flash and Gnash. On top of that, you get to deal with Microsoft's saber rattling regarding software patents that are always vague.

Trusting Microsoft has been the downfall of many companies. It'll take a lot of effort on their behalf (that they have yet to show) before people, especially the open source community, will trust them.

Re: Silverlight for Meego
 

see this thread at meego.com forum: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=1034