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x61 2010-04-29 16:20

Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
Though Nokia failed us in rolling out the PR 1.2 today, Ubuntu released their Lynx (10.04) today.... this at least makes my day.

slartibartfass 2010-04-29 16:35

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
even its not here yet, i agree with you!

x61 2010-04-29 16:39

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
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Originally Posted by slartibartfass (Post 633544)
even its not here yet, i agree with you!

It is out today, son.

slartibartfass 2010-04-29 16:45

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
yeah but the final is afaik still not downloadable. hope it comes soon so i can install it today.

BigLebowski 2010-04-29 16:46

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
Well, keep your fingers crossed, then

stlpaul 2010-04-29 16:47

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
But is the ARM version we can dual-boot on our N900 available yet? :) :)

kazuki 2010-04-29 16:49

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
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Originally Posted by x61 (Post 633521)
Though Nokia failed us in rolling out the PR 1.2 today, Ubuntu released their Lynx (10.04) today.... this at least makes my day.

its more like nokia failed linux. the point of linux is the kernel updates as it goes while new versions being created and let other software to update to it when they need to. not hold all the crap back n nobody could even possibly test their software. the whole bulk of periodic firmware release is fail already in how linux works.

ubuntu 9.10 for example, they kernel sometimes updates weekly if they need to, not hold the whole thing up until they think all bugs r squeezed.

x61 2010-04-29 16:54

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Originally Posted by slartibartfass (Post 633561)
yeah but the final is afaik still not downloadable. hope it comes soon so i can install it today.

here we go

Cthulhu 2010-04-29 17:08

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
good 'ol Linux is trusty indeed. In this case embodied by Canonical and their fine Ubuntu distro.

Nokia however has NOT failed us in any particular way today, since they never told aynone they would release anything today. All the rumor mongers has failed us (exactly as expected), since they constantly fuel the fires of unfulfilled expectations.

I await and look forward to PR1.2 as much as the next guy, but all the hysteria we see in e.g. the Speculations-thread is ridiculous.

If we should blame Nokia for anything, it should be the fact that they upgraded the build servers to PR1.2 instead of providing separate PR1.2 build servers, while still retaining the existing PR1.1.1 ones, so new apps and updates could still be released.

MohammadAG 2010-04-29 17:15

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu (Post 633606)
If we should blame Nokia for anything, it should be the fact that they upgraded the build servers to PR1.2 instead of providing separate PR1.2 build servers, while still retaining the existing PR1.1.1 ones, so new apps and updates could still be released.

That was fixed about a week or two ago.

stlpaul 2010-04-29 17:21

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
It's not that they promised an update today (because they didn't) but the general method of holding back fixes until a firmware release. It seems antiquated and does not go in line with general nature of this device and typical linux distros.

It is annoying to have community involvement to report bugs in public, but then fixes are held back in private for months and we're left waiting. It seems like a one-way street. The only incentive for unpaid labor (N900 owners) to report bugs is the hope that they will be fixed. When fixes are kept away from the affected users for no apparent good reason, the user loses the motivation to volunteer his time helping this company.

Khertan 2010-04-29 17:29

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
At least it s not liked in Maemo 4 where all bugs got a "Fixed in Fremantle status"

zarf 2010-04-29 17:54

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
assuming the hong kong launch went ahead, surely there is now a PR1.2 image on their download server for people in hong kong?

Or was hong kong a press launch and not a retail one?

Laughingstok 2010-04-29 18:28

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
Nerds!

Linux is for nerds!

h3llraz0r 2010-04-29 21:13

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
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Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 633744)
Nerds!

Linux is for nerds!


"If you don't know how to check your N900's uptime, you probably shouldn't own it."

lol

stlpaul 2010-04-29 22:07

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
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Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 633744)
Nerds!

Linux is for nerds!

Basically that's my reason for owning it :)

"Can your N900 do X, Y, Z?"
"No, but... it has midnight commander!"

Laughingstok 2010-04-29 22:35

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Originally Posted by h3llraz0r (Post 634099)
"If you don't know how to check your N900's uptime, you probably shouldn't own it."

lol

Boy you fell for that troll hook line and sinker. P.S. - I knew you couldn't stay away.

h3llraz0r 2010-04-30 02:06

Re: Nokia may fail us but Linux lives on
 
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Originally Posted by Laughingstok (Post 634187)
Boy you fell for that troll hook line and sinker. P.S. - I knew you couldn't stay away.

lol

:rolleyes:


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