work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

I got finally git working (after I remembered that the public key at gitorious was 2 reflashes too old)

http://gitorious.org/vertsms

Now I have 3 problems:

-how can I get the contact chooser to output a number from contact's sms -field?

-what would be the best way to implement a timer for text input? ("aa","ab" etc not possible for now because there is no timeout)

-what is wrong with sending sms? the number is btw mine so before you press send, please edit the string ;)
I am 100% sure it worked before but since I cleaned the code a lot and reorganized some stuff, it doesn't work anymore...

dbus-monitor reports nothing but print statements @ the code confirms that the code is ran and no errors appear.

future plans: when I get those 3 working, I start to learn packaging and try to get the app to extras-devel. then I create an announcement thread to M5 and see if there is interest to beta-test plus giving comments for improvements.

and one more known bug: no backspace key. got working function for it, only thing missing is the button plus signal to UI

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

I remember numerous threads about the portrait sms, so I definitely think it is a great idea, and I'm glad that somebody with programming knowledge have taken initiative!

I'm not sure, but are you working on a full qwerty or an alphanumeric keyboard?

Wheatbisc

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my god i love you man! hope this thread gets enough attention amidst the pr 1.2 mania to sort your fixes, and i'd be more than happy to test once you have a workable package! :)

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

sorry forgot to attach a screenshot.

there is also a need for chars below numbers so one button has
etc...

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

Still, it looks mighty fine!

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Would love to test it once it's in a reasonable shape and form :)

Sorry, am a noob and can't help you with the development part.

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Finally, a really usefull thread about a very important missing feauture (unlike this childish and ridiculus pr1.2 speculation thread).
Would be glad to test it too :)

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I had the same idea some weeks ago, but still not enough time to start programming. Nice to see somebody else doing it.

So, if you program it with qt, I have some ideas to solve some of your problems.

1. Sry, but this is too maemo-specific, but I think the new mobile-apis of qt should give you help: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2010...y-100-package/

2. I would start a QTimer after pressing a button and only accept new presses on the same button, if it was enough ms ago.

3. No idea, because I didn't tried your app.


Also, another idea on the "char-problem" -> You can call the function "yourbutton->setText("aString")", if you are in the sms-writing field, and set there the chars instead of the keys. If you are in the Number-field, you can set the Numbers as Text for the buttons.




Ahhh, sry,

I've just seen, that you use gtk as a GUI-Toolkit, but I'll post this anyway in the hope to help you a little bit.

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

A T9 dictionary would be the best option IMO, don't know how easy it would be to implement using the keypad already installed in the phone app

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

T9 might be hard to implement, unless the dictionaries are under CC.

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Surely the time module would be best here. I'll have a look at it after breakfast.

It IS git, so you could always run a diff on the revision that worked versus this one.

The Py2Deb packaging article in the wiki is pretty straight forward, but I can send you my build script from aptly if you like.

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ossipena great stuff, I'm always impressed by prototypes coming from community :)

would need some custom glyphs over the keyboard for the ABC etc

problem with that is it changes for different regions, so you may be better having a back template and generating the alphabet ontop of those at runtime and using them

anyone want to offer some glyphs for ossi to help it look a little nicer?

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

Looks great!

If you are having problems with getting the numbers and whatnot when using ctypes I'm using it in fMMS: http://gitorious.org/fmms/fmms/blobs...acts.py#line46

Hope this helps! :)

(Btw, I realise this is a bit silly request, but could you change your function names and similar to english? This would make the code a bit easier to read for the non-finns ;))

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@aspitides, only problem is that I cleaned the code only that I can upload first version to git and don't have to shame my code so much. :D

but I'll see today if I can debug the sms sending problem.

and thanks a lot for offering help with timer. I've tried couple things without success.

I'll try py2deb but if it doesn't work I'll ask for the script.

@lcuk excellent idea, seems pretty easy to implement after more important things are functioning properly.

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

@ossi, we are discussing a little in #maemo irc :)
drop in anytime

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

hehe I changed many function names, variable names etc to english, so work is in progress. should have thought of that before writing first functions ;)

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

yeah got sms sending function working again! now I am gathering motivation to look through frals good example.

and some answers:
-no T9 unless someone patches it up to the app
-no idea how one could use built-in kb. so I spent two evenings with python&gtk and got the UI to the state it is now.
-main point is quick&dirty solution that you can type simple sms with when you have only one hand available.
-can evolve to about anything, depends how much ideas and help I get.

e: just pushed version that has working sms sending. now I must go and clean the kitchen in order to keep my gf happy so she will let me code @ weekends also in the future :)

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Perhaps the quit button could be replaced by backspace? The user already has the x in the top-right corner.

I'm playing with timing right now to see if I can come up with something sane.

PS - The code looks much cleaner/readible than the initial version. Thanks. Would you be insulted if I made the indentation more uniform trhoughout the entire script?

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

the indentation was quilty for killing sms sending so I won't be touching it for a while once I got it into condition that works :)

but it still is my intention to make it not to jump randomly eventually

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

Ossipena, I've cloned your repo and have timeout working. It is now possilbe to write "cat". Currently, the timeout is set to 1 second, but you can increase or decrease it as you wish.

The only quirk seems to be that the first character doesn't accept mulitple presses. That is, typing 2 twice results in 'aa' instead of 'b'.

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

thanks a lot. even a partially working timer system helps me worth many evenings :)

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

Actually, it's fully working now. Also added a second line to each button label so that I know what I'm typing:

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

It's presently non-functional, but I'm working on a hack to get the contact list to display in portrait mode. Right now clicking on "To" opens the contact window in landscape mode, and closing it opens the portrait version which doesn't accept events. Useless, but it gives me hope that something can be done.

[edit]
Interestingly enough, the screenshot doesn't accurately show what I see. There are no duplicating icons, and names are legible. Kinetic scrolling also works.

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

You shouldn't need to hack it. That dialog already supports portrait mode, as evidenced by the letters that will show on the right-hand side of the dialog when the N900 is in portrait mode in the phone application. Set the hildon.PORTRAIT_MODE_SUPPORT flag on "chooser" before .running it.

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

sorry, but do you have a direct link to download this app ? i don't find it with link at the first post... thanx

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Thanks to qwerty12's hint, contacts now properly show in portrait mode!

As for direct link, ossi hasn't made a proper release yet because this is still a work in progress. You are more than welcome to clone the repo though. Failing that, its only one file, so you could probably do a right-click "save as" on the appropriate file in the repo.

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Here's a patch that gets the buttons looking more like the ones in the phone app:
http://slexy.org/raw/s2EQSbmWP1

http://imgur.com/gOl0x.png

Unfortunately, I couldn't get the buttons themselves styled as they need to be in a GtkTable for that.
It's not perfect and it's questionable as to whether you'll wish to apply it. But who knows?

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

@ ossipena: one question:
does sms from your program store somewhere (maybe store all together in conversations)???????

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

This application is an amazing idea and will probably make a lot of N900 users very happy. Sadly I have not idea how to help out but if I did I would be straight in there. The sooner this applicaiton is avaliable the better.

Great work guys! I am really impressed!

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Looking at the screen shots gives me some hope :D
Looks like ossipena is doing something that Nokia should have done from day 1. If there is anyone from Nokia's R&D here, could you help these guys with the project by giving the sourcecode for the current portrait mode dialer or something similar so that the wheel doesn't have to be re-invented every time!

Wonderful work guys! All the best to you!

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Once you've collected the inputted text string, how do you actually send the sms message? What I mean is, which api do you use for that? I thought that was part of Qt Mobility which isnt available yet, is there another way to access the basic phone functions?
Edit: never mind, found it

To answer a question above, the sms conversations are stored on a SQLite3 database (“/home/user/.rtcom-eventlogger/el.db” if i remember right) so it should be possible to read and write messages from other apps to there.

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Considering how I got the letters to display in the first place, anything that improves the appearance even slightly that doesn't hender performance is welcome in my book. I'm applying this to my branch until ossi has a chance to look at it in the meantime.

As for table, perhaps that would be the better way to go considering it would make things a bit more uniform. I swore off gtk some years back* so this is technically the only gtk app I've ever contributed to. Perhaps ossi can have a look at that. Alternatively, patches are welcome ;-)

* I find Qt far more intuitive and the rediculously long names in (py)gtk irk me.

[edit]
I'll probably sanitize the variable names before I request for a merge though, qwerty12. ****ing hilarious though.

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Stay away from those for loops, then.... The rest should be fine, though. :)
I wish there was a better way to get to the GtkLabels but the fact that HildonButton doesn't have any methods for retrieving its Labels and that the buttons are not in an array, means I have to use a million for loops to iterate through all the widgets and their children and use eval...

Looks like we're total opposites, then :p I <3 GTK+ (though I won't pretend to be competent with it) and using it with Vala makes me feel all giddy :)

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Lol. At any rate, looks like implementing a table instead of boxes will not only be trivial, but will help clean up the code -- and help you help us style the widgets :P

Off topic- you seem to be all over the place when code is discussed qwerty12 -- no wonder your thanks rival your posts. BTW, thanks for cleaning up the print statements, I forgot you could concat strings like that.

[edit]
I've replaced hboxes with tables, but the line that changes button_send's name breaks the button. Without it, the styling is gone, but everything looks normal. I'm going to play a bit with the sizing attributes and see if I can come to a compromise.

[edit 2]
Seems the issue is related to this post, although no one has responded :-(

Similar to the above post, trying to use thumb height causes errors. The only work around as of yet is to go back to hboxes :-S

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

Ok, I sorted through the issues, and now all buttons are properly themed and uniformly shaped:

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

damn its lookin good already! someone package it so we can test! :)

Re: work in progress: simple vertical sms app: vertsms
 

it should work if you have python in your device installed. just download vertsms.py from:
http://www.gitorious.org/vertsms

and at command line

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that is in todo-list. it only sends the sms and no trace is left nowhere unless you are logging dbus activities...

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Here is just simple mockup
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6...tsmsmockup.png
- Padding between buttons
- arrows to move, send button to different place so you do not accidentally push it when texting (was too close to 8, 7, 0)


portrait SMS screens from other touch phones:
http://www.tecfre.com/uploads/2008/1...0_tube_sms.jpg
http://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/...w-part-1-1.jpg
http://www.infonokia.pl/agrocms/tmp_...ssmusic-29.jpg
http://blog.smub.it/wp-content/uploa...iphone-sms.jpg

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great work !!! keep it on this app is a dream for n900 users :)