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one1002 2010-05-02 17:41

The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
Hello all..greetings from malaysia..:) i have yet to own a nokia n900..cause the salesguy from Nokia told me the price has gone up from RM2280,to RM2600++..almost a hundred dollar price hike..so i'm still saving for it..

to be honest,i've read many discussions in maemo.org about N900..the goods,the bads..and i'm pretty sure that i've done a lot of research about it since 5 days ago(when i first saw N900). And yes,from the specs,the videos,the reviews,the user reviews,i'm pretty sure that this device suits me. I even bookmarked some important things about N900 such as basic commands,how to flash firmware and so on(even though i just flick page by page)

However, i'm just wondering (as a non-owner) how difficult is the learning curve for a noob like me(i have zero,actually below zero knowledge) to handle this sophisticated yet so powerful device?Without the knowledge of even the basic commands,like apt-get,clean,root..?I have yet too many to understands..and i mean too many..lol..

sorry for the long intro..thx..

nosa101 2010-05-02 17:42

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
It is pretty simple. If you aren't sure, don't do it. When you are sure, do it.

wmarone 2010-05-02 17:43

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
Knowledge of the command line is not necessary, provided you stay away from the extras-devel repository, and act carefully with extras-testing.

Use of the command line is not required for day to day use.

Laughing Man 2010-05-02 17:48

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by one1002 (Post 638777)
However, i'm just wondering (as a non-owner) how difficult is the learning curve for a noob like me(i have zero,actually below zero knowledge) to handle this sophisticated yet so powerful device?Without the knowledge of even the basic commands,like apt-get,clean,root..?I have yet too many to understands..and i mean too many..lol..

sorry for the long intro..thx..

Well first you should ask yourself. Are you willing to learn if something goes wrong? Though in most if not all normal operations (e.g. staying out of extras-testing and extras-devel, not installing random software you find in threads here) you won't need to use the terminal (those commands).

But if you start installing extras-devel software or test software people post in threads but are not in the repository you should be prepared to learn how to use the terminal (in case to revert any problems) or be willing to at least read through the thread for tips, and what not.

You may also wish to evaluate how long you will own the device, how you feel about Nokia's support of it, etc..

For example, Meego on the N900 will eventually be available, but not supported officially by Nokia. If your interested in that possibility you should either be prepared to be able to do things by yourself, or just wait for a Meego device if your interested in it.

razialo 2010-05-02 17:48

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
it is pretty easy ...
and when it not your first phone , and you realy understand what this "phone" is ,then it is realy easy =)

one1002 2010-05-02 17:59

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
Wow..what a warm welcome!thx for all of your replies..

yes,i'm willing to learn. I came from Windows Mobile (still owning HTC Touch Pro)..before that, i used O2 Xda Zinc..lol..so obsessed with qwerty keyboard i guess..back then,i didnt know anything about windows mobile..then slowly i learned and learned..

well i still dont understand a couple of terms u were using such as extras-devel repository..but i'm sure that i'll understand it when i own one..

btw,what does the command line actually does?sorry guys.. =(

Laughing Man 2010-05-02 18:07

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by one1002 (Post 638810)
Wow..what a warm welcome!thx for all of your replies..

yes,i'm willing to learn. I came from Windows Mobile (still owning HTC Touch Pro)..before that, i used O2 Xda Zinc..lol..so obsessed with qwerty keyboard i guess..back then,i didnt know anything about windows mobile..then slowly i learned and learned..

well i still dont understand a couple of terms u were using such as extras-devel repository..but i'm sure that i'll understand it when i own one..

btw,what does the command line actually does?sorry guys.. =(

The command line is the a way of interacting with the operating system using text commands. Basically a GUI (what you usually interact with graphically) is overlaid on top of that. The problem with using a GUI sometimes is the lack of feedback information (for example, say an application crashes, with a GUI you may not know what caused it, but if it's in the terminal you will get a detailed error message).

It's not necessary to use the command line in day to day basic operations. Although if you do alot of software testing or install software still in development (from extras-devel) then you should likely learn it just as a backup (and to give feedback to the developers. For example, posting a detailed terminal output versus saying the application crashed).

Extras-devel, extras-testing, and extras are basically the source of the majority of community apps. They are placed in what's called a repository in the Linux world (basically a server that hosts all the files). Extras is the one most people will install apps from, and is the most stable. Extras-testing is applications that developers have promoted from extras-devel, basically applications are ready to be tested in a testing stage (to move them towards extra).

Extras-devel is the developmental state. Applications may not be finished, buggy, may not even work, may break some of your N900's functions until you uninstall the software, reflash, etc..

ysss 2010-05-02 18:09

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
I'd say this is a very well designed phone. It doesn't take an engineer to operate or understand its intricacies :)

Bec 2010-05-03 16:04

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
I'd say it's instant.

If you want to do some beta testing or install some developer only apps, then you have to learn 4 or 5 basic linux commands, that means five minutes if you never had linux and again instant if you had linux:p

mattbrawn 2010-05-05 08:48

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
I'd agree with all the responses above. We had guys hacking and modding the N900 as part of the PUSH N900 campaign who had minimal knowledge yet still developed some truly awesome hacks.

You can check out what was possible using the N900 and a bit of coding/hardware hacking here: http://blogs.nokia.com/pushn900/the-teams/

one1002 2010-05-05 09:17

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
wow..thx guys..i;m waiting to get my device on friday.. =)

se23 2010-05-05 09:28

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
havent used nokia for years, never touched an n7 or n8 device, never used linux and it was the first time i heard of maemo ( and i used to call it may-mo) lol. but i did what ur doing now; a solid 5 days reading on the device; bookmarking and stumbling on this site before i ordered it; now am confident in most areas....terminal; flashing; overclocking etc. i even have people asking me what to do with theirs. best device ive owned and will def buy the next version. the communicaton intergration is what does it 4 me.

rapinsoul 2010-05-07 19:18

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
Yo dude i am from Malaysia too bought it for 2280 official launching price, trust me get it its an awesome phone which you can play around, not that hard my friend i dont even have linux background but yea now i am learning a little here and there on linux

nax3000 2010-05-07 19:44

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
As a linux noob, it took me less than a week to take full advantage of my N900 including terminal commands and deep customization.

I really hate when reviewers say that it's unwieldy for new users to learn. Any reviewer who says that should not be in the business. (looking at you Josh Topolsky)
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one1002 2010-05-08 16:17

Re: The learning curve of Nokia N900
 
finally,just got my N900..still learning to use it..learning the xterm commands.. =)


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