A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

I really believe, had the "leaked firmware" come from any other source than a Chinese person, the entire reception would be different.

Even now, among the countless PR1.2 threads, the one sticky is given to a warning thread and not an full diclosure thread. I really think we need solid information and testing, and not a hushed forum full of locked and renamed threads.

We all joined these forums in order to gather and discuss maemo, yet I have to wade through all the superiority complexes in order to find useful information and constructive discussion.

jiao wo jia ren, not wai ren.

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

The leaked firmware has been breaking people's phones. It was designed for the China-specific hardware I believe. It has nothing to do with nationalism.

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

Not to mention it's also a month old at the very least.

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

a month old is how many months newer than 1.11?

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

At least month of not enough of testing for new bug fixes and features that 1.11 got nothing to do. ;)

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

Haven't noticed any anti-chinese rhetoric during this whole mess. Could you point to a post with western superiority complex? I wasn't even aware that the leak was from china. Just that it came from someone called 'caviar' who hadn't made any posts before the leak.

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

I'm thikin' some guy at Toyota used the same pretzel logic. :rolleyes:

Development is not linear.

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

I test this PR1.2 on my device and found a few problems with the Font for other language support to be too small to read. For example in my case Khmer/Cambodian font.

Whereas in PR1.1.1 the font size is very big and easily readable.
Anyone know how to fix this?

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

Could you point me in the direction of the N900 leaked firmware releases from other locations that had a different reception?

Could you point out to me the posts that have talked about the(possible) chinese origin of the release being the reason for mistrust.

Could you tell the people that have had problems how they should keep quiet about them so as not to draw inferences on the (possible) chinese origin of those problems?

Could you explain why the country it was leaked from would have any bearing on whether unreleased, unknown origin, unknown function, unknown purpose, unknown reliability firmware where it's not known what functionality is available, the state of that functionality the future upgrade path of that firmware, the product codes that it is expected to work with, the languages it works with and whether someone might have tampered with any of the code should be considered safe to use?

If you were concerned that the country of origin of a piece of software might influence your decision to trust a particular piece of leaked code would you consider that those states that censor information flow and are known to make attacks on the corporate infrastructure of large organisations might be particularly suspect?

Speaking for myself I am still tempted to try it, has anyone confirmed whether Madde Integration with the beta Qt SDK works?

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

Maemo is based on Debian, which uses DEB-packages, which do not have embedded cryptographic signatures (like RPM packages usually have); so from where ever you install outside of the repositories you take extra risks and you cannot find anyone in responsible of possible Trojan horses.

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

How many months from 1.11 is irrelevant. The time from 1.11 isn't spent on testing, it's spent on bug fixes and coding enhancements. Testing only takes place from the time a freeze or lock is enacted.

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

the person who leaked it was chinese?

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

what you on about

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

I dont think so...I think what is happening now, is the blame game. :rolleyes:

Tongue in cheek:

Conspiracy theory #1
Ari makes known he has RC PR 1.2
Certain forum posters make controversial statements on his blog :D
RC PR 1.2 is leaked that night...

Everyone who downloads the RC crash their N900s...

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

riiiiigggghhhtttttttt~

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

my is working well
no problems yet

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

so there hardware is different?

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

I dont know what you guys are brabling about! but i dont have the chinese 1.2 version! Even better, there isn't a chinese language setting in my PR1.2 so this is for sure the euro version and allot newer then most of you people are using!

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

So it turns out it is not the Chinese firmware but indeed a Nokia insider leak. After the abuse on Ari's blog, I'm not surprised. Everyone is satisfied now :D

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

imo this wraps up the whole thread....

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

i call super-BS on that.

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

This leaked firmware is very buggy though

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

That's the point! People were hounding Ari to release it even though it's not ready yet. They have been begging to get a taste of the in-development version for weeks now.

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

Everyone keeps saying how old this firmware is. If you check it against the SDK changlog and reported bug fixes it is about as new as it is going to get seen as PR1.2 was locked down on about the 8th April.
Everyone calling this may want to do a little research as this is prob it in a can.
All pics I've seen on net for HK released N900's have same firmware version Nokia would not release a half baked version there and a newer better one everywhere else.

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

well for me it works great and i am in central america no problems at all

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

Please dont make statements like that without knowledge - it makes you look dumb. (see Proverbs' 17:28)

If you have a debian or debian derrived box kicking around type "man debsign". Looking at the changelog for the devscripts package, you've been able to sign both packages and changes logs since at least Feb 1999. Your FUD is more than eleven years out of date. (And by the way, I think deb had signing long before rpm - although it was not mandatory for a while.)

You'll also find that the strongest group of pgp/gnupg trusted keys in the world... belongs to debian developers.

Why dont Nokia release fixes deb by deb to the repositories?
 

That may be so - but I'm loving it! Yes a few apps wont open (crash on start and no I've not looked into why yet - I'm not bothered because all the apps I really want work great.)

What I just dont get is why Nokia use a fantastic, highly advanced packaging system... then only release bug fixes and upgrades monolithic blocks of firmware.

Surely the whole point of using a state of the art packaging system (yes I know they are downgrading to rpm soon. Sigh.) is that when a bug is fixed in package X, it can be QA'd and pushed out when _IT_ is ready without waiting for totally unrelated pacakges a,b,c,d,e,f,g,h,i,j,k... etc to also be ready for an update.

That is why they online repositories... isnt it?

Sure release a bundle of fixes every now and then as a fresh new FW - but the fixes out as soon as QA'd! The infrastructure and means is there and ready. The community app devs know and use it - why not Nokia?

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

Maybe but nothing make you sure that this firmware doesn't contain malware ... it s from an unknow source ... it can be chineese, russian, greek, french, (other country you want) ... i ll not trust it ... and to be exact ... we don t know at least from which country this firmware have been leak ... it s post on a chineese direct download site ... this is only what we know. And personnaly i didn't trust anything coming from direct download site :)

Re: Why dont Nokia release fixes deb by deb to the repositories?
 

Not all community dev use it ... and to be honest ... this community qa testing process is huge failed. So i ll not blame nokia to not use t. And if they can release some part in small package more often. Some part really need to be tested internally : like the new phone chipset firmware ... to avoid bricked device.

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

If people would keep making more and more useless and same threads with no information - you would never find any information at all soon. so stop it. you have to blame yourself and others that making the same threads/post again and again

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

How do you know it has being breaking phone. I have installed and currently using it. I have also being able to REVERSE it back to pr1.1.1. I can assure you it is way better than pr1.1.1. Sure there are still some bugs or what not in there but it is WAY better than 1.1.1. Now if only Nokia will get off their butt and release this damn update. If apple iphone 4 comes out before nokia releases this update they will be in the hurting department.

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

If anything fails, blame the communists!!!!!!!! :D

No but really, the leaked version is not an RC, just saying..

Re: A PR1.2 by any other country.
 

The leaked fw is in fact a global release not in anyway even linked to China other than the fact it was first released on a Chinese website that required the user to install a download manager called Raysource and other than that its perfectly ok to use.
As for breaking peoples Phones, only if they did not flash properly as that fw i can say 100% would never break any N900.