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amandalam 2010-05-03 19:48

Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
My workmate has bought a stock N900 here in Hong Kong, and I've managed to grab some screenshots from her machine. I've posted to my Chinese blog:

http://amanda_hoic.mysinablog.com/in...icleId=2283480

The article is in Chinese; but from those screenshots, you will be able to tell the differences between PR1.1.1 (those in black theme) and PR1.2 (those in white theme). :D

AndrewG 2010-05-03 20:02

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
That white theme is hot. What's it called? Is it available?

afaq 2010-05-03 20:03

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Thanks for this.

Liking the white theme.

lukash 2010-05-03 20:13

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
Hey, thanks!

What is the default input method for chinese? I noticed some pretty cool looking character recognition in the video on your blog! Its also somehow mentioned at http://www.nokia.com.hk/N900 but I don't read chinese well enough to understand (and its in flash :(). Is it really there? That would be awesome!

gibsonus 2010-05-03 20:23

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
Thanks for posting it. What changes did u notice. Portrait mode? MMS? Maps update?

HellFlyer 2010-05-03 20:33

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CANT WAIT TO SEE 1.2 on ALL N900!!!!

Just a question though , if i just update it through app manager will i still get more root space? or i need to reinstall everything?

Thanks

Blinde 2010-05-03 20:37

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I want that white theme!

AndrewG 2010-05-03 20:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blinde (Post 641164)
I want that white theme!

Don't we all? Unfortunately though OP is offline now :(

kdrozd 2010-05-03 20:59

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
it is called white thame take a look on http://store.ovi.mobi/content/22886?...kSource=browse

i prefer green melody

nax3000 2010-05-03 21:06

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So basically pr1.2 is out in HK but not in the rest of the world? What gives nokia? This is aggravating...
________
Creampie Vid

sdhanna 2010-05-03 21:21

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 641175)
Don't we all? Unfortunately though OP is offline now :(

it's only the black and white theme off the ovi store
came out ages ago.

Optimus 2010-05-03 21:36

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I actually understood few smileys there!

Taigatrommel 2010-05-03 22:25

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nax3000 (Post 641215)
So basically pr1.2 is out in HK but not in the rest of the world? What gives nokia? This is aggravating...

Something like this is not uncommon. Take a look at HTC for example: When Windows 6.5 was released last year, the updates for the Touch Pro 2 rolled out slow and uncoordinated. Tweo weeks after release they supplied upgrades for four countries. We german people had to wait more than four weeks after first english firmware release till they supplied our version of the whole thing. For some countries it took even longer.

Also keep in mind that the N900 was completely launched in Hong Kong with PR 1.2 - maybe even an early adopted international version.

bunanson 2010-05-04 00:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lukash (Post 641120)
...I noticed some pretty cool looking character recognition in the video on your blog! Its also somehow mentioned at http://www.nokia.com.hk/N900 ...

It also, BTW, in addition to Chinese characters, recognize alphabets, apparantly very fast from the video! WANT!

bun

gerbick 2010-05-04 00:30

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Stupid question... but are there any hardware differences between the the HK N900 and the rest? Different cell radios or anything?

msa 2010-05-04 00:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 641565)
Stupid question... but are there any hardware differences between the the HK N900 and the rest? Different cell radios or anything?

i remember reading that the only difference is the radio transmitter which isnt built in the hk-version due to a law.
other than that, its identic.

wmarone 2010-05-04 00:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by msa (Post 641572)
i remember reading that the only difference is the radio transmitter which isnt built in the hk-version due to a law.
other than that, its identic[al].

Disabled, yes, but I suspect the hardware is identical down to that chip. The radio can probably be re-enabled with certain tools available in the Maemo repositories.

azz 2010-05-04 00:40

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then...whats stopping someone from dumping the entire thing and share it with the rest of the world...I guess it's easier said than done though...

Andy214 2010-05-04 01:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by azz (Post 641576)
then...whats stopping someone from dumping the entire thing and share it with the rest of the world...I guess it's easier said than done though...

The firmware version is exactly the same with the "leaked" version.

amandalam 2010-05-04 02:47

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lukash (Post 641120)
Hey, thanks!

What is the default input method for chinese? I noticed some pretty cool looking character recognition in the video on your blog! Its also somehow mentioned at http://www.nokia.com.hk/N900 but I don't read chinese well enough to understand (and its in flash :(). Is it really there? That would be awesome!

It's the handwriting solution provided by PenPower. Although Nokia Hong Kong promotes it, it's a third-party app and users will have to download it and install it by themselves.

amandalam 2010-05-04 02:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 641574)
Disabled, yes, but I suspect the hardware is identical down to that chip. The radio can probably be re-enabled with certain tools available in the Maemo repositories.

A forum member at the Hong Kong Maemo/Moblin/Meego User Group has confirmed that the FM Transmitter hardware is there and it can be enabled with FM Boost & FMTX Faker.

lukash 2010-05-04 10:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by amandalam (Post 641701)
It's the handwriting solution provided by PenPower. Although Nokia Hong Kong promotes it, it's a third-party app and users will have to download it and install it by themselves.

Thanks! I googled this: http://www.penpower.net/nokia/n900/Install.htm

After googletranslating and spending a while trying to understand the complicated installation guide, I found out the packages are actually in extras-devel!

mscim-n900-ppinputmethod
n900-locales-ppchinese (not sure what this one is for, its a dependecy of the above)

So I installed them and got 4 new methods for my mscim:
Chinese Pad
PINYIN Pad
Writing Pad
PINYIN Pad

The Chinese Pad is a virtual keyboard containing the strokes for chinese characters. I don't know how to use it though.

The first PINYIN Pad looks like regular mscim pinyin input (there may be some differences but I don't use googlepinyin much so I don't know).

The Writing Pad (which is what I suppose I'm interested in) and the second PINYIN Pad, however, just give me an error message: "Invalid IMEI. please visit http://www.penpower.net/nokia/n900". What the hell?? Apparently, this input method is limited to devices sold in Hong Kong?

What is this crap, Nokia?

Lets have a look at the package: http://maemo.org/packages/package_in....0-2010042905/

Oh, its in the free repository, so the sources are available?? Well, after having a look inside the source tarball, I found only the binaries. I'm not too knowledgeable about the packaging system, but are the packages in free repo not supposed to be opensource?

Huh?

Endri 2010-05-04 10:55

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Hello... wake up... HK version is what you are calling leaked o rc...

maluka 2010-05-04 10:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Endri (Post 642223)
Hello... wake up... HK version is what you are calling leaked o rc...

The leaked version is not the HK version. This was already disproved in another thread.

gerbick 2010-05-04 11:00

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
What's the OS version of the HK N900?

Andy214 2010-05-04 12:03

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 642231)
What's the OS version of the HK N900?

The one posted by thread starter blog, it's exactly the same version as the leaked PR1.2

optimaxxx 2010-05-04 12:08

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
green melody, good taste!

Spotfist 2010-05-04 12:19

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I don't get how nokia can sell the n900 in hk with the fm transmitter by simply dissabling it...

Surely that's a bit like selling illegal drugs but just saying you wont use them? Didn't Rockstar get done in the US for that hot coffee thing, sounds a bit similar. I know HK will have different laws but it's still and fm transmitter?

Also, awesome pics ;)

ossipena 2010-05-04 12:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Spotfist (Post 642276)
I don't get how nokia can sell the n900 in hk with the fm transmitter by simply dissabling it...

Surely that's a bit like selling illegal drugs but just saying you wont use them? Didn't Rockstar get done in the US for that hot coffee thing, sounds a bit similar. I know HK will have different laws but it's still and fm transmitter?

Also, awesome pics ;)

nope. if I have understood correctly, you must void your warranty in order to get the FM tx working... so drugs -analogy is poor at its best.

lma 2010-05-04 12:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by amandalam (Post 641072)

That's an invalid hostname (containing _) so a lot of people won't be able to resolve it.

attila77 2010-05-04 12:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lukash (Post 642221)
Oh, its in the free repository, so the sources are available?? Well, after having a look inside the source tarball, I found only the binaries. I'm not too knowledgeable about the packaging system, but are the packages in free repo not supposed to be opensource?

There is a clear LGPL notice in the package, so let's give them the benefit of a doubt it's just a packaging error - I have written to the maintainer address about the issue.

lukash 2010-05-04 13:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by attila77 (Post 642328)
There is a clear LGPL notice in the package, so let's give them the benefit of a doubt it's just a packaging error - I have written to the maintainer address about the issue.

Really? I would certainly hope so... But since there is the IMEI limitation, I doubt it will be actually opensource, because that would allow anyone to just remove the check and repackage it... I'm not sure I understand the reasoning for that check... All the information is in chinese, so its just what I gathered from google translation. Maybe some chinese speaker could shed some light on this? amandalam? :)

Souseke 2010-05-04 13:59

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My chinese is not that good but I would love for penpower to work on my phone. Having a look through this link is appears that you can patch it so that you add your own imei to penpower thus allowing it to work.
For anyone with better chinese than me, is what I am saying correct?
http://forum.tgbus.com/viewthread.php?tid=1052433

Cthulhu 2010-05-04 14:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ossipena (Post 642288)
nope. if I have understood correctly, you must void your warranty in order to get the FM tx working... so drugs -analogy is poor at its best.

So I won't void the warrenty on my body, if I do drugs? Cool. (Well, not really, actually)

Kurele 2010-05-04 14:09

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Was there an option for english language? and i love how they tried making the phone look skinnier in the video lol

Spotfist 2010-05-04 14:36

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
ye the drugs is a poor analogy but I thought the same thing when I read the case about the hot coffee debate, "Spend hours hacking the game like so, and you see some poor porno acts...Disgusting!"

Personally I agree with the voids warranty etc but surely you could actually sell a radio transmitter with an off button and then say it voids warranty if you switch it on? My point is that is there maybe a legal loophole that could be used against Nokia? I only bring it up because I dont want them going under or anything else we'll never see Pr1.2... :(

Im sure they have lawyers that sort this kind of thing out though ;)

lukash 2010-05-04 14:47

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Souseke (Post 642393)
My chinese is not that good but I would love for penpower to work on my phone. Having a look through this link is appears that you can patch it so that you add your own imei to penpower thus allowing it to work.
For anyone with better chinese than me, is what I am saying correct?
http://forum.tgbus.com/viewthread.php?tid=1052433

It does look so (judging just from the screenshots...), but this is still a pretty crappy way of getting it. I might try it when I get some time. Although I've bumped into a few bugs with that package already (like I was unable to switch to another scim method after I switched to Chinese Pad one) which make it pretty much unusable for me. (and its hard to update if you "patch" it like that)

Souseke 2010-05-04 15:22

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lukash (Post 642500)
It does look so (judging just from the screenshots...), but this is still a pretty crappy way of getting it. I might try it when I get some time. Although I've bumped into a few bugs with that package already (like I was unable to switch to another scim method after I switched to Chinese Pad one) which make it pretty much unusable for me. (and its hard to update if you "patch" it like that)

if you press that red icon to the left it allows you to change between different methods. the only thing i miss with the mscim method is the sym button for various symbols.
i will experiment with the patch tonight...

syncdot 2010-05-04 17:17

Re: Some Nokia N900 Hong Kong Edition Screenshots
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Souseke (Post 642393)
My chinese is not that good but I would love for penpower to work on my phone. Having a look through this link is appears that you can patch it so that you add your own imei to penpower thus allowing it to work.
For anyone with better chinese than me, is what I am saying correct?
http://forum.tgbus.com/viewthread.php?tid=1052433

That's a good find! You're absolutely right, the patch allows your IMEI to be usable by Penpower.

Here's a translation by myself if anyone is having difficulty following w/o knowing Chinese.

1. This step is basically telling those who already has Chinese localization in their N900 to uninstall it by first changing the system language to English.

2. In App Manager, search and download mscim-n900-ppinputmethod. (I believe as of now it's only available in extras-devel, and so the usual warning applies)

3. Download the patch provided by the link (NOTE: I've tried downloading but apparently you need to be a member of the forum with at least '5 forum currency'...) Extract the files on to desktop.

4. Upload the 4 extracted files into "usr/lib/scim-1.0/1.4.0/Helper" in your N900 and replace the existing ones. The example uses WinSCP, but I'm sure you can use other method such as SSH.

5. Get your IMEI number (i.e Settings > About)

6. Open X-Terminal enter these commands:
sudo gainroot [press enter]
sed -i"s/033336155/xxx/g" /usr/share/scim/pphwrwp/database/libpprecog.so [press enter]

Where xxx is the last 9 digit of your IMEI.

7. When all is successful with no errors, restart N900. Then you can change the system language to Chinese Traditional HK, Chinese Traditional TW, or Chinese Simplified PRC, and then enable the MSCIM input methods. Here's the settings for the MSCIM in their order:

- Activate GooglePinyin
- Activate Zhuyin
- Activate Pinyin
- Activate Handwriting
- Activate Cangjie

8. To uninstall everything, change the system language to English and uninstall "mscim-n900-ppinputmethod" and "n900-locales-ppchinese" via App Manager.



Hopefully this is helpful for those who want to experiment. As stated I'm unable to download the patch. I'll try to sign up for the forum tonight after work and see if I can download it and test out this badass penpower input.

Edit: The author of that post had a small review of Penpower. Basically he said that it's still full of bugs. For instance, when you are typing Chinese, if you don't close out of the input window, the input window will stay on the screen. He also specified that the Penpower app takes a lot of rootfs space. According to him, it's about 40mb. I guess I'll have to free up my root before attempting this out.

theclueless 2010-05-04 17:22

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still kills the Fn-Sym virtual keypad...


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